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Just have to listen to dion to know they are selling us out. Soft power baby!!

ONT has a lot of seats and the people of ONT are sick and tired of CC, green energy policies.

And in 10 yrs when most are flying new generation fighters we will be stuck with these old hornets. Helecopters anyone?? I see another sea king had a emergency landing out east the other day.

I dont think so. It not just trudeau but the people that he surrounded himself with could bring them down. And Dion as foreign minster , huge mistake. Canada is back alright, back to being in denial.

Because the activists are taking over and that is what they want. They want to be as far from mainstream as they can and just be a protest party. That is just my opinion.

I wish Dion would quit this Canada is back. He looked stupid when he says it. He tries to look tough but tough is something he is not.

The palestines should just move to palestine which is Jordon.

My mistake topaz.

Just read about the 600 and it was answered. Now I am wondering about the wood stoves or is this the ploy they use everytime bad news comes out.

Did I hear she wants to ban wood stoves. Or since this weeks scandal is about the pan am games she needed a new stupid policy to get the media off her trail.

150 yrs of peaceful democracy and you want to blow all that. You will never have peace with 10 parties sitting at the table. We do not need any fringe parties having any say in this country.

When your buddies are ready to fight like men and quit hiding under the skirts of women and behind children, alot less will die. War is hell.

Quit attacking Israel and peace will be had. But Hudson, it must piss you off that your Arab buddies are slowly becoming more friendly with Israel, because they need Israel to help fight off ISIS. Even Hamas is getting some support from Israel to help keep out ISIS from Egypt. So Hudson when peace does come ,where will you be able to spew your hatred then. Your whole world is going to start to falling apart all around you. And I will be here to keep reminding you. Life is good.

Look at the leader of the green party, made a complete ass out of herself and she still is leader.

The germans would have had a semi stealth fighter in the 40's, if the war went longer. The Horton 229.

What is wrong??? You must be a public servant who votes liberal. What is wrong is people can not afford any more increases in hydro. And now I read that their price in their cap and trade scam is $600/ton, compared to 20-30 everywhere else except Sweden and 140. This government is out of control and ideas and will do anything to cook/balance the books, thinking that is all they need to win again.

First they make an election plank out of scuttling the F-35 sole-source fighter purchase, now we learn that they are looking at sole-sourcing the F-18. Instead of politicking, which jet Canada buys and how many is secondary to having a proper process that generates and legitimates a commitment on which to follow through. Recently, the Danish government concluded the F-35 is cheaper, more efficient, and more effective than the alternatives and recommended the F-35 over the Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet and Eurofighter Typhoon to replace its aging F-16 fleet. Contrary to the approach taken by Conservatives or Liberals in Canada, the Danish options analysis was transparent, public, and its findings were validated independently. There are important lessons for Canada here on both substance and method. The Danish government considered four criteria: military performance, acquisition and life-cycle costs, industrial benefits, and strategic considerations — primarily the “ability … to support or fulfil Danish defence and security policy objectives, including potential co-operation with other countries.” Article Continued Below They evaluated each category separately and concluded the F-35 trumps the F/A-18 and the Typhoon in all four categories. Given the F-35’s reputation, the conclusion about costs was most surprising — and key to the budget-conscious Danes. The detailed analysis provided to the parliament and public found that life cycle costs were driven by the number of expected flight hours of each aircraft: 8,000 for the F-35 and 6,000 for the F/A-18 and Typhoon. Since they last longer, the Danes concluded they could meet their defence needs over 30 years with fewer F-35s. Critics have questioned the data used by the Danish Ministry of Defence. But the information was supplied by the companies themselves as part of the bidding process. Eurofighter explained they were very conservative in their estimate then, but have since calculated the Typhoon could fly for 8,300 hours. Boeing made a similar case: that the actual flight hours for each F/A-18 Super Hornet is 9,500. The Danes have stood by their process, using data the manufacturers submitted, which they verified and was validated independently by external auditors. It is now up to the Parliament to consider the government’s recommendation. There are two lessons here for Canada. First, reach a cross-party consensus in principle. In the Danish case, the political parties agreed in 2012, as a matter of principle, that a new combat aircraft purchase will take place, even with a minority government now in power. Second, Parliament’s external validation can challenge but should not substitute new metrics for those used by the government. In Canada, the Parliamentary Budget Office, the Auditor General, and KPMG all used different metrics, including different life cycle lengths: whether you calculate jet fuel over 20 or 40 years makes quite the difference! The Danish process included external validation by RAND Europe and Deloitte Consulting — whose joint report is also publicly available — as well as independent, outside experts. Barring illegality or incompetence on the part of the New Fighter Program Office, the Ministry of Defence, RAND Europe, and Deloitte, it is difficult to see how Boeing or Eurofighter can convince the Danish parliament to forego the government’s recommendations. The Danish process is democratic and transparent, which makes it difficult to assail. It demonstrates democratic representatives can agree if the processes in place have integrity. More..... https://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2016/06/08/what-does-ottawa-know-about-the-f-35-that-the-danes-dont.html The Danes have done thier homework. This is the way jets are going, time to buy them and get on to something else.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/f-35-ready-to-go-company-says-as-u-s-air-force-prepares-to-declare-stealth-fighter-combat-ready Trudeau might owe someone a apology. I will bet more and more of these planes will be flown by other countries before we get even one hornet.

Nobody has embarrassed parliament more then the PM himself in the last 6 months.

Harper left them a 7.5 billion dollar surplus which they turned into a 30 billion dollar deficit, in a matter of hours it seems.

Trudeau himself said the F-35 do not work and trudeau is never wrong, right waldo?

This shows the liberals do not care at all about our military.

Once the bills start coming in ..................................

It turn out not to as big as people thought or there was to many left wing politicians caught, that they had to hide the report.

Letting people shoot up drugs is harm reduction??