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The new Prime Minister of Alberta is wasting no time....Alberta seems to be copying Quebec....Hopefully he will fund the Employment dept out of the Federally corrupt U/I program....If he withdraws Alberta from the Federal program and puts Alberta workers money into the new Alberta Employment Dept...That would be a bonus for all Albertan's......The Immigration idea is a good one as well.....

And thus we come to the present....Because of the Liberals signing the WTO agreement the wheat board as a State manopoly is dead....It is up to Harper to bring that realization to the old Communists in Sask. and Manitoba that think they can still eat other peoples bread and not pay for it, so Harper is being blamed for what the Liberals did to the Communist Wheat Board.....Bury the body Stephen it is starting to stink......

Dobbin let's try a little truth here....Will you acknowledge that the Liberals were in Power in 2004...Yes or No.....The Liberals went to the WTO in 2004 and this was the ruling of the WTO and it was agreed to by all 146 signatories including Canada........The world trade body, including our customers and competitors, have stated in no uncertain terms that government guarantees to the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB) borrowings and initial payments will end. In the World Trade Organization (WTO) framework agreement, signed by all members at the end of July in Geneva, section 18 states: The following will be eliminated by the end date to be agreed: Trade distorting practices with respect to exporting STEs (State Trading Enterprises) including eliminating export subsidies provided to or by them, government financing, and the underwriting of losses. The issue of the future use of monopoly powers will be subject to further negotiation. The CWB is the only grain-trading agency in the world that has the ability to issue its own bonds. These bonds are sold to institutional investors and the money is used to pay farmers for grain that is sold to other countries on credit. For every dollar in bonds there is a dollar in credit sale or recapitalized interest from a credit sale. The problem for the CWB is that the bonds are rated on the basis that they are 100% guaranteed by the Canadian Government. When the government is forced to end the guarantee on the bonds, then the bonds will be rated on the CWB’s assets alone. The only asset the CWB has is the value of the grain credit sales and interest, some from countries that no longer exist and is questionable at best, uncollectible at worst, but absolutely not transferable to the bond debt. This will make CWB bonds worth about the same as an old Air Canada share. IIf the Canadian government refuses to take responsibility for the CWB bonds, then the CWB becomes insolvent. There won’t be any need to negotiate the end of monopoly powers of the board, because it will cease to exist. This puts the CWB in a very untenable situation. The government has signed a framework agreement with the WTO agreeing to end government guarantees on borrowings of STEs, namely the CWB, but has given no indication whatsoever as to how it can do that without sacrificing the board. IIt can be done, but the government will have to come to terms with its own use of the CWB as a foreign policy instrument over the last sixty years. It has been politically convenient to use the grain sales by the CWB and credit from the CWB, as bargaining power in other foreign policy areas. It was also very beneficial to the government at home to use the CWB to extend credit rather than the government, that way it has never had to show this expense on the government books. There is no provision in the government’s accounting for a default in the CWB bonds. So any cost now to cover these bonds will be a six billion-dollar hit to the government of the day. In the present minority situation that would require the BQ to pass a Liberal budget with a six billiondollar buyout to CWB bond holders and the government would get six billion in credit sales and capitalized interest. The government can collect the debt to pay the bonds or write it down over time just as they are doing through the Paris Club agreement anyway. Money markets are very fickle and have no loyalty whatsoever. Rumour and perception are the basis for market reaction. Right now the CWB is on their own; the government has signed the agreement that they will end the guarantees, at some point. The CWB bond-trading department still has to flog hundreds of millions of dollars in bonds everyday. Markets hate uncertainty. Buyers could start discounting the bonds or avoiding them altogether. All the market has to go on is the agreement to end the guarantees, nothing else. So for as much as the supporters of the board like to think that it is western Canadian farmers that will decide the fate of the CWB, it is the 146 countries of the WTO and the bond holders of the CWB that are making the real decisions. The CWB is beginning to look like the Titanic. The ones that built it said it was unsinkable, but the captain refused to change course and drove it into the iceberg, saving the monopoly, but sinking the ship. Farmers can decide on the position of the deck chairs and the board of directors can tell the band to keep playing and telling the farmers that everything is fine, we just have a dent in the hull, nothing a lot of lobbying can’t fix. The reality is the good ship CWB has hit the WTO iceberg, and made a huge gash in the side, right at the waterline. All it takes is one ripple and it will start to take on water, and unless the government starts to use its massive pumps, the ship is going down. Western Canadian farmers and grain industries, our domestic and international customers and competitors are all coming to the same conclusion. The CWB must change. It is in everyone’s best interest that the CWB quit the posturing and make real changes. The complete agreement, updates and meeting schedules are on the WTO web site www.wto.org To the WTO the CWB claimed it was “in essence a farmer co-operative… subject to no direction, supervision or influence by the Government of Canada.” IIn the Federal Court of Canada the CWB states, “the Board was not and is not accountable to individual producers. Rather, the Board is accountable only to parliament.

While you may not have approved of Klein like us Albertan's did for 14 years, those are his words, stated publicly....And I think as the Prime Minister of Alberta he would have a lot more information on the subject than yourself or myself for that matter.....The whole topic of separation in Quebec and Alberta can all be layed at the feet of one man P.ETrudeau.....It was his big Government and Centralist Policies that created the PQ and Quebec Separatists....In fact his memiors state that he himself was a separatist.....His theft of Alberta's resources under NEP created Alberta Separatists....So if you want to blame anyone blame your hero the Commie Ass Kisser Trudeau.....

Under Communism the state owns all the property, thus the reference to Communist Wheat Board......And you are lying about the WTO, the ruling went against the CWB in a big way....In the ruling it states that the Taxpayers or Government of Canada can no longer underwrite and guarantee the loans or bonds of the CWB......In the real world that means the death of the CWB as we know it......My little Commie buddy....Get your facts straight......The Liberal Party of Canada signed onto and agreed to the WTO demand Harper is just implimenting the Liberal Voters like yourself's wishes.....Goodbye Communist Wheat Board......

Under Communism the state owns all the property, thus the reference to Communist Wheat Board......And you are lying about the WTO, the ruling went against the CWB in a big way....In the ruling it states that the Taxpayers or Government of Canada can no longer underwrite and guarantee the loans or bonds of the CWB......In the real world that means the death of the CWB as we know it......My little Commie buddy....Get your facts straight......The Liberal Party of Canada signed onto and agreed to the WTO demand Harper is just implimenting the Liberal Voters like yourself's wishes.....Goodbye Communist Wheat Board......

The French Are In Shock.................Is Ban Ki-moon a franco-phoney? Dec. 14, 2006 Jacques Chirac is probably kicking himself. The incoming secretary general of the United Nations can barely speak a word of French. Once considered the main language of diplomacy, le français has lost its élan. Just moments after Ban Ki-moon recited his oath of office to become the eighth secretary general in UN history, he read a carefully scripted speech that included three paragraphs in French. However, during his first news conference with the UN press corps afterwards, he could barely muster a 'pardon?'

That is only your opinion Dobbin.....If Klein stated 25% at a time when Alberta Separatist's don't have a leader, and times are good....What will it be when Ottawa comes calling for more foreign aid for TROC and times are bad and they have a leader.......Alberta is far more able to go it without TROC than any other Province......

I am well aware of the history of the Communist Wheat Board.......Albertan's and the Conservatives are not trying to get rid of the CWB, history states that the Liberal Party of Canada signed the WTO agreement and the WTO has stated that the CWB must cease and desist.....Harper is trying to do what the Liberals agreed to do.......We want choice in marketing....And we will get choice in marketing......Canada doesn't own my wheat, I do....You don't own my wheat I do....What is so hard to grasp about that....The CWB will survive with dual marketing but they will have to do their job and quit spending money on themselves and playing at politics.....Myself I would vote to get rid of them entirely but like others are willing to let live....Except I want the same right to sell my property were ever to who ever I choose.....

Citation for old Dobbin.....Also, some politicians and at least one poll have indicated that a much larger percentage of the Albertan population may be at least sympathetic to the notion of secession than would be indicated by election results. In January 2004, Premier Klein told the Canadian edition of Readers Digest that one in four Albertans (25%) were in support of separation. An August 2005 poll published by the Western Standard pegged support for exploring the idea of forming a country at 42% in Alberta and 35.6% across the four Western provinces [4]

Quebec has amassed over $102 billion in its Pension Fund, while Alberta’s share of the CPP is around $13.5 billion. Quebec’s Fund is run by Quebecors, ours is run by Ottawa. Quebec choose to opt out of the CPP right from the start. Alberta, consisting of good little Canadians, choose to go along for the rip-off ride as we always do. For instance, it's estimated that Albertans contribute over $4 billion per year into the CPP and get little more than $2 billion back to service our needs. Hence, it is fairly safe to say that an Alberta Pension Fund would grow at a minimum of approximately $2 billion per year. It is highly unusual that Alberta, Canada’s most prosperous province and the economic engineer of our country, has no significant local source of investment capital. An Alberta Pension Fund would remedy this major shortcoming, and would enable Alberta to realize its full potential.

The proposed plan would see the APP savings (i.e. the 1.9% of pension-able earnings) invested in a government-regulated “supplementary plan” belonging to individual contributors. The Government of Alberta would increase this 1.9% contribution by adding an additional .95% from provincial resource revenues (see table 3 below). This would only cost the provincial government an amount similar to one-third of a round of “Ralph Bucks” (approximately $500 million). A 20-year-old entering the Alberta workforce in 2011 (the earliest an Alberta Pension Plan could be incorporated) would almost certainly double the earnings they would receive from the CPP over the same time period. Also, to do this they would not have to pay one dollar more than he or she is paying today into the CPP.

If you read his policy or what he told the CBC, and I will repeat it for you.....The same plan as Quebec....The Qpp is not a part of the CPP....This means that Stelmach is saying that we will have a APP....Alberta Pension Plan......As an Albertan I like this idea, the money will stay and grow in Alberta and build a nice big pot......

I think that we should end Official Bilingualism as a start, $700,000,000.00 tax dollars spent and the only result has been a unilingual rascist separtist Province.....

Only leftwing pompous fools in Canada think they can tell the USA or any other country who to let inside their borders.......Immigration is a priveledge not a right....

Dobbin you are telling the truth to suit your own purpose again....The reason Quebec and Ontario farmers are not in is because they don't want to be, they have choice in marketing and have had for a few years....And you know what Dobbin the sky didn't fall, the world is still buying wheat......This thing is going to be forced upon you whether you like it or not......The state doesn't own the farmers wheat, it is the property of the farmer and the farmer should decide how to dispose of his own property in whatever way is best for him....

The support for Independence in Alberta runs normally at a steady 25% and as high as 40% without a leader....That is pretty high, almost on a par with Quebec.....If TROC chose to fight which they wouldn't do we would wipe them out........I don't think Alberta's best friend and neighbor Uncle Sam would like TROC trying to shut off Alberta oil going over the border......

Here's hoping Ed keep's this promise he made to Albertan's and repeated to CBC......[stelmach wants to create a supplementary Alberta pension plan, similar to Quebec's. He said Monday he'll be watching to ensure that any new powers given to that province are extended to Alberta as well. "It was very clear during the campaign that I'm going to fight for the same rights and privileges being assigned to this 'nation within a nation.'"]

The Clarity Act is not apart of the Constitution at all and can and will be ignored by any Province that wishes to withdraw from the Confederation......Under the 1982 Constitution that some here don't seem to have read, if Alberta calls a referendum of it's citizen's on a constitutional matter, the constitution says that Ottawa must negotiate......UEL's are legal all over the world......Alberta obtained full and complete ownership of all land trees grass and water and oil in 1930 with a Constitutional Amendment......Fort McMurray can't leave Alberta because it is a town, and not a Sovereign State like Alberta.....Each Province already has a Parliament, a Head of State and an democratically elected Prime Minister in Alberta that would be Ed Stelmach now.....If the majority of Albertan's decide to leave TROC can do nothing except wring their little hands stamp their little feet and knash their gums......Like some are doing right now......

Get rid of the CRTC, adult men and women should make their own choices as to what we want to hear, see on tv and read.....Let those leftwing idealist's who love the CBC etc, fund it themselves with direct user pay fees......Only Communists regulate free speech and free press like in Canada.....The taxpayers in this country are overburdened...Cut programs and cut taxes.....

Why have you failed to anwer my question? When are you going to advocate that the CWB be forced on Ontario and Quebec farmers......Alberta will soon be out of the Commie Wheat Board anyway....Albertans know why Manitobans like the Communist Wheat Board, it is because of grain forced to be shipped to Churchill and jobs in Manitoba to be paid for by farmers in Alberta....Well that is coming to an end....The rumour here is that Stelmach is going to force the issue by enforcing the Alberta rules in Alberta, and Alberta farmers will enmasse be out of the Communist Wheat Board if that is what they want.....Beautiful Ting......

And how will Canada force the Americans to remove him from the list.....You people have been drinking your own bathwater again....

The CWB votes are rigged the electoral districts in Alberta are overlapped with the Commie lovers in Sask....Alberta will be going it's own way....You failed to answer my question why you and others who are so enlightened on property rights do not advocate that the CWB be forced upon Ontario and Quebec farmers.....The Communist Wheat Board is toast......

The only bullying that has been going on is all done by the Communist Wheat Board, I reference the 13 Alberta Farmers put in jail for selling their own property......Anyway Alberta has the Act in place and I hear Stelmach will proclaim it into law in Alberta.....The Commies will be out in Alberta.....By the way why do none of you pro Commie Wheat Board types not advocate that Quebec and Ontario be forced to comply with the Communist Wheat Board....A portion of the Alberta Act which it is rumoured that Stelmach will declare....The Freedom of Farmers in Alberta finally.......ALBERTA WHEAT AND BARLEY TEST MARKET ACT Chapter A‑37.5 Preamble WHEREAS the Canadian Wheat Board has a monopoly over the Canadian wheat market as the single desk buyer and seller of wheat and barley grown in the prairie provinces for export and domestic human consumption; WHEREAS the Board was initially established as a temporary measure in response to wheat market conditions and other world events; WHEREAS the creation of the Board has adversely affected Alberta’s agricultural industry through the loss of secondary industries to other parts of Canada; WHEREAS the Board’s monopoly is an outdated concept in the world’s current climate of increasingly free markets; WHEREAS a 1995 plebiscite of Alberta wheat and barley farmers indicated majority support for a dual marketing system that would provide farmers with the freedom to sell their wheat or barley either through the Canadian Wheat Board or on the open market; WHEREAS recent changes at the Canadian Wheat Board have not resolved the problems faced by Alberta farmers, namely, lack of compensation for top quality wheat, restricted cash flow and poor export opportunities; and WHEREAS there is a need to develop alternatives to the Board’s current monopoly; THEREFORE HER MAJESTY, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta, enacts as follows: Definitions 1 In this Act, (a) “Minister” means the Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Development; ( “producer” means a person engaged in the production of wheat or barley; © “test market” means an open market for wheat and barley created pursuant to an agreement under section 2. Agreement 2(1) The Minister may, upon receiving the approval of the Lieutenant Governor in Council, enter into an agreement with (a) the appropriate Minister of the Government of Canada, ( the Canadian Wheat Board, or © both (a) and (, for the purpose of establishing an open market, on a test basis, for the purchase and sale of wheat and barley produced in Alberta. (2) An agreement made under subsection (1) must include the following terms and conditions: (a) producers have the option of marketing any portion of their wheat or barley to (i) the Canadian Wheat Board, or (ii) any other buyer; ( the test market will be in place for a minimum period of 10 years. Regulations 3 Subject to an agreement made under section 2, the Minister may make regulations governing any matter respecting the implementation of a test market in Alberta. Coming into force 4 This Act comes into force on January 1, 2003.

Here is the citation, that most farmers and the general public is not aware of, any producer can vote in their elections, and the NO CWB side is starting to publish this fact so we can all have a say in the Communist Wheat Board....The end is coming for the Commies.........This info is also available on the CWB site......[Anyone who has delivered grain to the CWB in 2005/06 or 2006/07 is automatically on the voters’ list. However, eligible voters are not limited to only those who deliver to the CWB. Any producer (from odd numbered districts) of wheat, barley, canola, oats, flaxseed, rapeseed or rye may vote, regardless of how they use or market their crop. Those who are not automatically on the voters’ list but wish to vote must complete a statutory declaration form and submit it to the CWB Election Coordinator before November 17, 2006 at midnight (Central Time). Click here for a statutory declaration, which must be signed and witnessed by a Commissioner for Oaths/Notary Public. Mail-in ballots must be post marked no later than December 1, 2006.]