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Here is a site were you can brush up on all Ted's Speeches, hopefully he becomes the next Prime Minister of Alberta and starts shutting off the flow of money to TROC. http://www.tedmorton.ca/speeches/fair_deal/Mcclelland.html

Actually do the math yourself. PEI has 135,000 voters and 4 MP's Alberta has 3,000,000 people and 28 MP's by Canuckistan math that means we should have about 85 MP's. To have the same level of equality. That means it takes 4 votes from Alberta to cancel one vote from back east. That is not equality. And Quebec keeps 75 Mp's even if their population drops to 500 people? What kind of a nuthouse is Canada anyway. 2 plus 2=5

TROC could no more shut off Alberta's oil than TROC could shut off Quebec's hydro power to the USA. Just try that one and you would have an armed uprising overnight. And what would TROC's mighty peacekeepers do, keep in mind there are only about 5,000 of them. And they would have to walk to Alberta.

All resources belong to the people of the Province in which they are found. They have not belonged to Ottawa since the 30's in Alberta's case. So dream on, that is only a Trudopian communist wetdream. Trudeau is dead and so is NEP. Do you really think that a Sovereign State like Alberta that is apart of a Confederation only, that never voted to join the Confederation, having some 3,000,000 free people, that if we decided to leave you or TROC could stop that happening, not likely. We already have a Prime Minister, a Parliament and a Head of State who will do as he is told. Canada isn't even a real country. No one in Canada ever voted for the so called Constitution that is a joke. In Canada only 30,000 voters elected Premier Martin and He appointed all your senators and judges and your Head of State that is not a Democracy that is a Kleptocracy. Look at the theft of public funds going on right now in Ottawa. Pathetic socialist backwater.

Premier is the French word for Prime Minister, I am not French and neither is Alberta. Hence the correct name which is Prime Minister each Province is already a Sovereign State with a Prime Minister, a Parliament and a Head of State.

I think you can still go to the Stampede Stan these folk are just upset because they see their meal ticket's tail lights as we leave TROC in the dust. Alberta's taxes are already the lowest in N. America. How do you figure that TROC subsidizes our transportation of oil? That is a new one. Within 7 months it will 90% flow to Texas to their waiting refineries via an Alberta pipeline and a US pipeline owned and paid for by oil companies. I would not worry too much about Alberta running out of oil in your lifetime, the oilsands alone have as much as Saudi Arabia and the process of extracting it increases its value above natural crude by about 10.00 a barrel. If the New Albertan's play their cards right at Independence and end all income and personal property taxes Alberta will be a magnet of the best and brightest. Connect that with an International Banking and Tax Free Zone for manufacturing and bingo look out. We could demand gold for oil until about 100B in Gold is sitting in Edmonton. No debt No taxes watch the inflow of capital and talent.

It is not a city's oil, it was the taxpayer's of Alberta that paid for FT. Mac. If the various Native groups would like to contest our claim best of luck to them. Albertan's own Alberta, not any ragtag band of natives that have been mistreated by TROC and definately not TROC. Read the BNA ACT all resources belong to the people of the Province. What will TROC do if we declare UDI, wring their hands and wet themselves, that is what you will do, and that is all you will do. When we run off the ROC we will also turf all federal and UN influence out of Banff Jasper and Waterton Alberta. Your dollar with be worth zilch, your pension will be worth zilch, you will be saddled with enormous socialist debt load and we will laugh at you. As we will have secure pensions, no debt, no income tax no property tax etc. enjoy your little commie hell.

Sparpidgeon those Natives that truly would like Freedom and Liberty will love and embrace the New Alberta, those that like handouts will quickly head for Sask. etc for you to support. Everything that Alberta has was developed and brought to fruition by Albertan's inspite of TROC. We used American money and our sweat and brains to create Alberta. We owe TROC nothing. We have paid in full in the Billions. TROC has demonstrate drepeatetly that they will brook not even modest concessions to Albertan's on Freedom and Liberty, very well then continue on as a slave and we will seek our own destiny. Do not concern yourself with our fate, rather concern yourself with who you will bilk next, if you are from Ontario set aside more of your budget to offset what you used to take for granted to maintain your Liberal Canadian Values, such as bi-lingualism etc. Maybe consider getting yourself another partime job, to achieve your goals. We will carryon to achieve our goals.

Let the consumer regulate them. If they are bad don't use them. The last thing we need is more laws in Canada.

Not at all Sparpidgeon, the Sovereign Province of Alberta already has major road and rail and air links directly to the good old USA. And within 7 months the major pipeline directly to Texas will be fully functional. In exchange for our vast oil supplies belonging to all taxpaying Albertan's our good US neighbors and relatives will give us quick access to seaports as we need them. God Bless the USA. We are by no means landlocked, but TROC will be cut off from the Left coast if we go Independent. You would have to get Albertan's to agree to let your rail and road links to BC to continue, you just might not be able to ship anymore Communist Wheat Board grain thru Alberta. Careful what you ask for, don't try and punch above your weight.

So far I haven't seen to much intelligence from yourself. You seem to be very puffed up with your own importance tho, rather typical for most uneducated Liberals.

I started another thread on this forum which is about Prof. Leon Craig's comments on Alberta and our place in Canada. From the comments I am astonished at the ignorance of TROC too recent political events in Alberta and the possible repercussions for TROC. Dr. Morton was elected as an Alberta Senator by more votes than the Premier of Canada and democratically. He has since been elected as a PC MLA in Alberta. He will be contesting for the position of Prime Minister of Alberta when Klein steps down. If he becomes Prime Minister here is a heads up for the ROC. If you dislike Prof. Craig's essay you will find little joy with Dr. Morton. Whither the West: Firewalls or Bridges? Ted Morton Globe and Mail June 30, 2004 Monday's election results were a bitter pill for most Western Canadians. Not only did Harper and his new Conservative Party fail to make the necessary break through in vote-rich Ontario, but the so-called "party of national unity" had once again used the regional divide-and-conquer strategy to bring their stray Ontario sheep back into the Liberal fold. ** Post Removed Due to Copyright Infringement **

Fleabag get off the gas you are full of cow dung.

Alberta has tried to fit in for 100 years, that time has passed. TROC is a commie backwater and Alberta has a way of outsmarting and moving on. Albertan's like Democracy not like TROC who like being told what do do and when. BAAABAAABAAA. We will always march to our own drum.

I am not sure if you have been outside of Edmonton lately or if you read any papers etc. But only 2 Provinces in Canada have Official Independence Parties Alberta and Quebec. www.separationpartyofalberta.com

First of all it is NOT Canada's energy, the oil and gas etc belong to the people of the Provinces not TROC that is a Trudopian Communist idea, read up on the BNA Act. Within 7 months most of Alberta's crude oil will flow directly to Texas via pipelines to be refined. That income belongs to Albertan's not TROC. Just like Hydro Quebec etc does not allow Canada to squander their money neither will we allow Ottawa to squander our birthright in Alberta.

Call a spade a spade. The Liberals are one of the most corrupt and crooked governments in the so called free world history. They are up there on a par with Mexico. Eastern Canadians like the Liberals because they make the money flow into their wallets. The TROC are on the take. They will never bite the hand that feeds them.

Within 7 months the majority of Alberta's crude will flow directly to Corpus Christi Texas via pipelines over the Alberta/Montana border. That will alleviate a lot of pressure on the water supply. And by the way we do have a lot of water here in Alberta. If Ottawa impliments any kind of a carbon or green tax against Alberta, it is very simple, we will withdraw from the Confederation, that is always an option for us. When Alberta already has one of the lowest tax policies in N. America provincial level of taxation is only 10% flat tax and no sales tax. We could further reduce that by dumping the communist bloodsuckers of TROC. Without that monkey on our backs we would be at 0% Income Tax, no property tax on personal, a tax free zone, and a secret banking haven such as Switzerland.

Lately the question of Alberta going for full Independence from Canada is a hot topic in Alberta. What is your opinion? What is your solution to an unworkable centralist undemocratic nightmare called Canada? Let’s get while the gettin’s good By Leon Harold Craig This year, Alberta is celebrating a century of existence as part of the Canadian federation of provinces. What better time, then, to take stock of Alberta’s place in this arrangement, of how well it’s been served in the past and what are its prospects for the future? read more