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Right. And the Soviets were in Afghanistan protecting the "rights of citizens of free nations" just like the Americans were in Vietnam protecting the "rights of citizens of free nations" a couple of decades earlier." Wake me up when that refrain becomes remotely believable. In the meantime some schmuck in Florida has proven that Muslim extremists are extreme. We could have figured that out without the unnecessary death or risk, don't you think?

Not at all. It wasn't meant for you, which is part of the point.

Fine form there AW. You object to the title that generalizes about a nation, yet have no problem generalizing about the adherents to a religion. I am glad you have this indelible insight, so now can you show me the evidence that "they" don't respect "our" religion? BTW - I really don't give a crap if "they" want to duke it out among themselves, it's good for business. But what is bad for business is inciting "them" to want to kill more of our soldiers, UN workers, aid workers, peaceful religioous people, moderates, etc. It's not like we don't have a bunch of young men and women over there who will utlimately pay the price is it?

On the contrary. It would likely result in all Western or Christian people and institutions in the Muslim Middle East being wiped out.

Yeah, cite please, where a modern country has been bombed back to the Stone Age. Oh wait, what happened to the Soviet Union after they bomed Afghanistan into the Stone Age in the 80's? Or how about those crazy North Vietnemese in the late 60's and 70's? Piss the West off and they will show you how willinginly they send their youth to die by the thousands and millions. Never mind the mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers or friends of those youths, DogOnPorch get's wring his hands in delight.

You missed my point.

And you don't think he is smart and all his professorships were some sort of fluke or inside job? Come on Oleg, even for you that's a bit nuts.

That is exactly the point! Canadians are, by and large, in the liberal centre and the only reason for even a CPC minority is that Mr. Harper appeals to that centre. If he is gone and a more right-wingish leader is installed, the CPC will be in perpetual opposition. Which would explain his reputation of being a hard ass in his party and keeping those Reformers in line. He's done a good job of that for sure. As for Ignatieff's rhetoric, the more I hear of him, the more I am starting to like him and not just for the alternative. But the biggest complaint I hear from folks I talk with is that he comes off as cold and intellectual. If he warms up in the next few weeks that might make a difference.

I think that is somewhat unfair to accuse Mr. "Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010" Shady of sloganeering.

Because they are beholden to flawed premises based on limited and fixed ideas. They ignore labour because it crushes their argument. They ignore other revenue streams because it crushes their argument. Etc.

You neither. Wouldn't want you going to socialist hospital for treatment.

You don't read not my problem. What is known is that you come from shit-hole that has Zundel Posse criminals. Already explained, go back and read.

Clear, no. Simple? Absolutely. Therein lies the problem. For starters, all public sector employees - government workers, soldiers, firefighters, etc. "actually" pay taxes because they have T4 slips and on those T4's there is a little box that tells them how much as been deducted. Secondly, your premise is based on payments made to public sector employees being based solely on income to the government received in the form of taxation. Well, you got that wrong didn't you? So now it is incumbent for you to show the method whereby the payments to public sector employees ONLY come from taxation revenue - the mystical "tax pool." As TB already nailed you on your lack of data, it is easy to see how you could make such absurd assumptions with a simplistic understanding of how governments are funded in Canada. However IF you have the data to PROVE that the payments to public sector employees ONLY come from tax generated revenue THEN I would be inclided to revise my understanding. So please, show us the data. Scotty and others have sufficiently already nailed you on the labour side so there is no need to re-emphasize that what public sector employees do is provide work for payment. Not to mention they take their earned money and also pay taxes on good and services, EI contributions and the like. So there is no vociferous argument at all because your premise is based on an incorrect assumption of public sector employees being paid solely out of this mythical "tax pool" you talk of. What is proven is that you really don't understand how governments are funded. Therefore public sector employees do contribute to the economy and actually pay taxes. Like practically everyone else.

From today's Star: Ignatieff issues Harper a ‘High Noon’ debate challenge Did Mr. Harper actually state that?

So is that your official dodge or do you have something more clever up your sleeve? If you are too afraid to "draw it out and show us the math" that public sector employees don't "actually pay taxes" then at least admit it for what it is. Come on Bryan, man up about it and draw it out and show us the math. If only to hear the vociferous arguing.

Draw it out and show us the math. Then we'll see if they still argue vociferously. Otherwise you're all talk and no substance. And remember you are contending the public sector workers don't "actually pay taxes." So, do tell.

You have an interesting perspective August, I'll give you that. Chretien and Trudeau were darlings of the MSM and were always imminently quotable. Nixon? Yeah he was a master until he wasn't. Then he became the focus of the MSM and they got him good. ---- Of course this is the great cultural divide right? The press in QC have "personal opinions" while the press in TROC are mere shills. Wait, what's this? Oh, Quebecor. Then you really have no clue about the "Toronto-based MSM" do you? It does. So Mr. Harper has already indicated that he doesn't have the chops to go one-on-one in a live debate with Mr. Ignatieff. If he had "talent" he wouldn't be afraid of this medium of speaking directly to potential voters. Ah, if it were only that simple eh?

From the Star: Veteran Tory MPP Norm Sterling loses nomination battle I wonder how far the OLA agenda can be pushed within the provincial Tory ranks? Or how far the OLA agenda can be pushed constitutionally, which to me, is a big stretch...

Already answered, go back and read. Aleady answered, go back and read. I don't. Which is why freeloader like you show immigration system broken.

guyser, guyser, guyser Crediting Saipan with any type of "logic" - convoluted or not - is as generous as one can get. Your MLW benevolence is noted.

Most excellent reply!

"...to develop..." No doubt the "beta" version has been out there for quite some time. I wonder if they gave 'er a test in Tunisia or Egypt...

That good. 'At' you, not 'with' you. Except when they aren't. I don't eat squirrel, I pay the taxes. You cheat and rob Canada.

BWAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Frickin hilarious capricorn, you out do even yourself sometimes. Thanks for the laughter!

Well come on now B-C, I find this highly irregular and a titch contradictory for you. Here you are asking a Canadian his opinion of something wholly American all the while maintaining a schtick whereby you vilify other Canadians when they offer their opinions about wholly Americans and these forums. Aren't you even a little ashamed of this sort of hypocrisy?