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Are you referring to these standards?

The irony being that it isn't just the selection of products that is getting 'wider' in America.

Or we could all just turn our refrigerators up on high and open the doors for a few minutes each day in the summer. That should take care of it.

Mitigated indeed. Doctor drain turns to gain: Physicians move north So when you refer to "so called third world nations" are you referring to the USA too?

BTW - congrats on picking up the guitar! More music makes for a better world.

I'm guessing it will be his next one.

He could pull off Elvis Costello though, Watching the Detectives and all...

Which is all more or less in line with what most rationale folks are calling for, including that TD report cited above.

Now many UN delegates have signed a petition to ban dihydrous monoxide, one of the chief ingrediants in acid rain, pollution, etc. UN delegates sign petition to ban water

Thanks Google bitch, but I have already read that one. And it doesn't support what you are saying one bit. Let's look at your first contradiction according to your "research:" So tell me where in your citation above that it talks about "cap the % of tax money dedictaed to our joint health and limit services to critical care." It doesn't. It talks about efficiencies, which have already been discussed in this thread. As for the report, it looks like there are quite few other choices available than tax and service caps. But according to the report you are citing, it most certainly does make a bit of difference - quite a bit, in fact. Here are the ten recommendations: Take bolder action to promote healthy lifestyles - education Expand information technology use in the system - expand technology Establish a commission on quality and value in health care - more efficient oversight Alter the way doctors are compensated - doctors Change the approach of funding hospitals - hospitals Re-allocate functions among health care providers - efficient organization Scale back Ontario Drug Benefit (ODB) for higher income seniors - pharmaceuticals Increase bulk purchases of drugs to lower costs - pharmaceuticals Establish pre-funding of drug coverage to spread the growing costs of health care - pharmaceuticals Incorporate a health-care benefit tax into the income tax structure - education And it looks like the creators of the report actually did their homework and went a little bit further than their first google hit.

Who pays for health care?

What demographics would you be referring to?

Yet you fail to cite the source of your mathematics. So your outlook is culled from what? What you feel? Costs? Wiki - Health Care in Canada - Economics Maybe cheaper drugs is what we need. Or maybe a significant portion of the population needs to find other ways to manage themselves, other than drugs. Which goes to show that components of the system can be reviewed. Here go to town. I highly doubt that the government will allow us to be consumed by the cost of health care. We can afford it just fine. See above. I am not saying that there couldn't be some changes made, perhaps pry a few people off the health care trough, but we are not doomed. Now what is worse is the people who can't get past their own laziness and post links to the Statcan homepage as a citation of demographics and health care. Should we just take your word for it? Nope.

I'm sick of paying for roads I don't use; or museums in Sudbury or art galleries or welfare for immigrants that I don't use. You already have a 'private' option. And you live in Seattle already, so you know what it is.

As opposed to the British settlers you mean? Or the Loyalists? Have you cracked open a Canadian history book yet? Great. Cite your mom... Well, by definition, to a Muslim, any non-Muslim IS an infidel. And to any Christian, any non-Christian IS an infidel. Perhaps you might want to crack open a dictionary too? Infidel Of course, this could only be true is there were no racism in the federal bureaucracy. And of course this is true if your mom knows everyone's religion since I have heard of many types of people exposed discriminatory hiring practices in the public service. Quite astounding compared to what? Do you have the frequency at which black folks made complaints of discrimination 20 or 30 years ago? How about French people? Natives?

Ah tinkerbell, reached the upper limit of your wit now have you?

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pubs/viau2006/viau2006.html Now if someone knows how to convert the ARCGIS format to GRASS or GeoExplorer, I would be much obliged... (not for the Global Warming debate, but for something else. But it might be cool for the Global Warming debate nonetheless)

touché No, not why they were what they were, but what influence do their numbers have the on the various social systems - many developed by their demands - and what the affect on those system will be post-boomers. Are the systems elastic enough to bounce back into some more idealized form?

Absolutely, but how has the postwar baby-boom affected our ideas? For example, without the baby boomers, would Trudeau have gotten in? Nevermind the cultural implications, sex, drugs and rock and roll.

I kind of wonder what the post-aging-boomer world will be like. (after they have, uh, moved on) How will it affect areas such health care and senior care? Will it revert to the same sort of ethic that we have been taught about -'what it was like in my day?' Now I see this as the current ethic for a large portion of immigrants - the family taking care of their elderly. Not sure how widespread it is, but we could learn a lesson from them. Plus tax credits - great idea!

Another pantywaist face-plant by tinkerbell, the bluffin muffin.

Mewanwhile, back in the news... U.S. cooperation with South could mean nuclear war: North Korea So are they heading for a sea of flames or an ocean of rhetoric?

More inartful dodging from the Bluffin' Muffin Tinkerbell. Oh, look, Tonga...

No, no hate. You just sound like a tried and true Jehovah's Witness.

What is that tinkerbell? More proof that you are incapable of stepping up without falling flat on your face? Awwww, muffin, contact Poland, maybe they will approve of you...