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'AngusThermopyle' date='03 December 2010 - 11:40 AM' timestamp='1291394403' post='604716' says: Well from the tenor of your last post it certainly is good to see that you too are living down to my expectations of you. In short your post can be summed up as, wah wah, suck, wah, suck sucky suck suck. Nice, but not at all unexpected. Keep up the good work, you only serve to impress all with your maturity and reason. Now back on topic. How do you know how I feel about Senators? In actual fact that is another subject that pisses me off. Because one shows an erroneous statement to in fact be erroneous does not in any way confir approval of any part of the relevant data. In this supposition your logic is quite simply not just faulty but actually non-existant. Nope, cheap, haughty hypocrite suck with a misplaced sense of righteousness still applies nicely. Oh, and a little ugly on the side too.

Are you kidding me? The overpaid chief actually has work to do - for a band of 300+, the Senators are recipients of political patronage rewards that are required for some 70 or 80 days a year. Some of them don't even bother to show, they just collect their money and run.

Nothing but an in-artful dodge. Asking me to provide a rational for what she does when you can't even do the same thing. For shame. Cheap, haughty hypocrite with a misplaced sense of righteousness. I stand by my assessment and nowhere did I say, or even imply, racist. So now you are a suck too. What I find appalling is that when a comparison is made to senators, not only do you try and avoid my questions that completely skew your diatribe, but you come up with more questions that you demand be answered. Or do you only advocate for wealthy dishonest Senators? I never said you couldn't complain, just that it is a big much you big suck. How ever I appear to you is no concern of mine. .No, cheap, haughty hypocrite suck with a misplaced sense of righteousness still does just fine.

Then make friends with a hunter and offer to buy some country food. Your neighbour for example... Not my problem. Eat other meat too.

Labour predates debt. Time for the workers to rise up again!

Yeah, that is the sense I was getting as well. I think there is more to the financial deal with China as well, but not sure where that fits in with all this.

You can deermeat in the grocery store or get a hunting license and go bag your own. There is commercial seal hunting on the East Coast and I believe Aboriginal commercial hunting is subsumed under treaty rights.

Are are you asserting that an unelected Senator has only their base senatorial pay of $132k per year to rely on or are they also allowed to have other income sources like, expense accounts, use of government facilities and vehicles, private pensions, stocks, bonds and other final and interests? All of which could be estimated and summed up. I think the article specifies what should be on the table well evaluating income: So if you want to start accounting, put ALL income on the table right? Do you think anyone would be a senator if they couldn't enjoy the benefits of ALL their investments and expenses? Let's be honest about that too right? I wonder what would happen if we factored in the actual time worked as in this article. So what is more expensive - $243k for some 300+ days per year managing a band of some 300+ people or $132k for maybe "70 and 80" days per year for doing practically nothing? Oh, you will notice in the article that there are some senators that don't even bother to show up for their pay. Oh, some of them do stuff, and they get more money for it: So Marjorie LeBreton earns close to 200k for some "70 to 80" days work, not including expenses or other income and let's not forget she has been collecting her senatorial pay since 1993. What is $132k X 17? Meanwhile we have poor and underfed children going to foodbanks in the run down hell holes of our cities. But let's focus on a few Indian chiefs, because that is where the real morality plays are being acted out. Methinks you protest a titch too much. The people in the band, the actual members of the band in the OP article, who are complaining about their own chief's compensation - they have a right to complain. You however, just come off sounding like a cheap, haughty hypocrite with a misplaced sense of righteousness.

I supposed being one of the many fixated on that 700 billion dollar figure, this comes as a little surprise: Fed made $9 trillion in emergency overnight loans Very interesting!

Nice win! From briefing notes to black ops in the embassy TV room

OK, can you list every promise the CPC has made? Can't? Didn't think so. Look Nicky, I might not be able to stomach the CPC or Liberals or NDP 'at their word' but don't think I am so cynical that I don't take you at your word. If you are going to throw out crap like that, then fair is fair. I am no apologist for the CPC, so don't get your bloomers in a bundle. When the Liberals are in government next you mean? So in other words, don't do anything, kill any efforts to do anything by anyone else and cross your fingers at the next election. It is this exact do-nothing, say-nothing attitude that has blessed us with the two CPC minorities we have gone through thus far. Harper is working on his platform, it is called 'government.' There are brilliant minds in the LPC, don't you think they can weather any attack ads the CPC throw at them? Like I said, it doesn't matter how clever they think they were in the back rooms with no audience. If they can't weather supposed CPC attack ads, then that doesn't boost confidence for them weathering a real crisis like the economic downturns, terrorism, fractionalism, etc., now does it? If they have no balls now, no one is going to think they are going to suddenly grow a pair when an election is called. This is a matter of leadership and the LPC has no leadership. Maybe Ignatieff can borrow Duceppes balls. You are ignoring the reality for your notion. Don't shop with that attitude you will go broke fast. Well this latest bit of legislation is not a dream now is it? And here you are telling me that the Liberals are too afraid to make their platform known because of the potential CPC attack ads against it. So you are saying that this legislation, that is being put through due process is because the CPC is ignoring Parliament? Oh an morality opinion from a political wag from MacLeans trumps realities. Right. More Liberal do-nothing white-knuckle top-of-the-heap wishful thinking. Your problem here Nicky is that you assume too much. When we have a party that cannot withstand the honest and free criticism from within, in order to maintain an abstract and false appearance on the outside. Then they treat their own critics as an enemy, as a CPC. You come off like an apologetic idealogue that supports the status quo no matter what. In other words the old school Liberal attitude of underserved privledge. Same old, tired Liberals. The people will always go with the devil they know over the devil they don't. And Harper today, is the devil they know. Ignatieff can do nothing but oppose because he has no other skills; he picked up the ball and just stands there. He is the last guy a liberal like me would want as Prime Minister, that's for sure.

This explains automobiles, the rise of suburban sprawl, big box malls and the gasoline price gouging nicely. Because "vast numbers" of people buy gasoline thanks to those innovators who came up with the automobile a hundred years ago. I hardly find the sentiment that those who contribute the most to this process also reap the greatest rewards as convincing. Because that doesn't really explain the ridiculous wealth of some oil barons or some bankers for example.

Really? They would be called weak for standing up for what they believe in, coming up with a platform that is current and topical and paying attention to the views of Canadians? That's weak? No weakness is constantly being reactionary and that seems to be the Libs modus operandi. With a lack of imagination or foresight, just stall. Ah yes, the Liberal wet dream. An election. In which they will lose again because they simply lack, well, anything close resembling a coherent platform or the balls to put one out there. Nu-uh. It is constantly asked of them because they are the main opposition party in a minority Parliament. Come off it. The CPC crafts legislation to address what they perceive to be a current problem that has the attention of Canadians and the Libs simply oppose it. Really, who is being lazy here? Clearly the Liberals are. They have every chance to add their input, seek compromise and consensus and the sum total of their acts is to simply oppose - like crybabies. Those are the public optics. Whatever their backroom powerplays are, they are being played to an empty arena and come election time, no one will give a damn about how clever they think they were. Oh yes, the CPC has the unmitgated gall to actually express something about a current issue rather than sit behind the Charter and create revenue streams back to their constiuencies from big federal departments. No one remembers that. Eh?

Interesting since I recall the long lasting jet trails even in Ottawa in the mid 70's. Are you saying they were seeding the skies from commercial jets even back then?

If I recall correctly, when I was a kid in the early 70's there were always long trails from jets, sometimes the trails would be there for over 30 minutes.

All the while you give quarter to the garbage spun by Saipan as 'reasoned debate and inquiry.' Gimme a break. Let me guess: after all this time you still think the Douglas Estates fiasco was caused by thugs right?

Saipan is a powerless, ignorant moron. Opposition not required.

CBC stereotypes a drag on Canada-U.S. ties: WikiLeaks NAFTA, Foreign Policy - nothing: Rick Mercer - you bastard! They're not? Heck, does anyone watch The Border and LMOTP? I refused to watch that crap once the CBC cancelled jPod. And Americans were thoroughly respected and realistically portrayed on jPod. So there. Ha! I get all my combatting terrorism world view from CSI and Criminal Minds!

Interesting article in the Star. Snuffing free speech is starting younger and younger these days. Whew! For a minute there these brats were actually talking back. First, this is what the kid said that got him the vacation: Here's the story: School suspends teen who criticized athletics program Good gawd! Do we only hire the childless in our education system??

No, nationality. You're not getting it. You're not getting it. There are not castes in Canada. Ask the guy in prison if he as the "same rights." You never had an inherited right to fish and hunt as you please on this planet and your property rights are dependent on the law as it is. One right you do have - which you seem to exercise often - is the right to delude yourself. In this, you are a shining example of such a right.

Incorrect conclusion. I was simply making a disinterested observation as an innocent by-stander. All things being equal of course.

Yes, Oleg complains of this phenomenon too. So does Mr. Canada.

Aww, Argus. That hurt. No, no it didn't. Perhaps if you tried explaining your position in French, it might be more intelligible. Yeah, but you backtrack, dodge and squirm. All signs of retraction; or call it 'contraction' if all that artful dodging is too much for your pride. Obviously assesments learned at the Great Gazoo School of Sociology. A God-like observation if there is one. Of course, Lech Walesa doesn't count because he wasn't "brown." Ah, more retraction er.. I mean contraction - excellent. We've gone from 'all' to 'bulk of' to Iranians which indicates a widening exception to your own contradictory rules. And you know what? Even the Great Gazoo mellowed over time, no shame in that.

Believing your opinion to be truth is chauvenism. Rolling up our sleeves or wringing our hands? Doing nothing gets nothing done too. Agreed, preferably sooner than later. This is sarcastic strawman. No one is saying that anyone is going to 'waltz' into NK expecting flowers. However there is likley a heck of a lot more intel gathered over the years than anything they had on Iraq. Even still, the actual push into Iraq was fairly quick and easy. It is the later insurgency that has people bullied. If there is a better post-war plan for NK, and I am betting there is, then Iraq's lessons are not so valuable. I don't think the NK's are as inpet as you. I prefer to see them more positively and worthy of the effort. The sinking of the ship, the lobbing of bombs was an effort by the NK regime to affect their own timing to what they likely see as the inevitable. However, all you are going on is the public response from SK. Unless you have some insider information from secret sources you would like to wikishare. I am betting you don't. If I was working on a plan to take the head off the dragon, I wouldn't be putting that in the Seoul Times. I agree to a point, which is why an Asian Coalition looks attractive. I mean, I have to wonder if they region prefers to have NK as is, or are willing to share the economic pain as a bloc. An interesting question that doesn't often come up in the expert discussions. However, I doubt integrating a willing NK post-Jong would be too difficult a task. It has been done before and SK might be a little more willing to review the German model if they had incentive to do so. Nope. I am comparing just one crime sector in the present US with the present status of Russia. If we want to criticise others be prepared to remove the rose coloured glasses. Questioning my understanding of historical Soviet society based on a misunderstanding of references is somewhat underwhelming. However, comparatively, the results of slavery is still haunting the US to this day. An unremarkable fact. It might, it might not. Fail to plan is planning to fail. However, liberating the oppressed and feeding the starving people now is much better than letting them continue for generations without any plan to help them. It's not a crazy plan, but has some very legit merit. We need more of this type of thinking in foriegn policy circles. I am sure you would not be surprised to learn that NK has caused much hand-wringing in foreign affairs departments over the past half century. But I sometimes wonder what the other memos say. Is it possible that they want to keep the regime or a similar regime in for other purposes, say political or military? Agreed. However, a legitimate Asian Coalition also might reduce the Yankee Imperialist Aggressor myth too. Now, how to gain that legitimacy in the eyes of the NK populous? Hmmm... more aid from that specific bloc and keep the American involvement to a minimum or hands off. Now would the Americans or UN be willing to do that? I think so. Good planning either way, I think is the key.

Your chauvenism is unbecoming. Got to think positive here. The world has the means, the world just needs the will. Or an enterprising country or two that can recognize a diamond in the rough when they see it. Likely the US or China. So areyou saying China will support efforts to topple the Jong regime? Actually I like the Asian Coalition idea more and more. Share the pain and the rewards. Saddam Hussein is the example of "the worse when it comes from miltary campaigns." However, learning from Iraq is a perfect example of how to approach sitations generally. NK is not Iraq. No, but it will help immensely. Especially lots of it. Your presumption is based on a one-to-one swap of power. I have already indicated that a more world-friendly Chinese guided (or Asian Coalition guided) cadre is fine and will get the NK's to the party. And there are 260 rapes in the US every day, almost 11 per hour. Sounds pretty corrupt to the bones to me. Or is it all relative in the end anyways? I prefer Russia as it is, not as it was. But whether the Russian intellects want to debate Stalin and get all wistful is one thing, an actual power base is another. Besides, Marxism has some real utility when it comes to examination of social trends, but don't mistake me for a Stalinist. Yeah, especially when they are liberated, fed and are feeling well enough to go for some payback. I'm all ears! (or... eyes as it were)