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Its probably just that the surveillance of this one journalist happened to get disclosed. We have no choice but to assume that all journalists are under surveillance. We dont have any information at our disposal that would make us believe otherwise because government is so secretive. We know from looking at the kind of laws the government has tried to make that they are intent on casting a very wide net. They don't care who is guilty or not, and don't want to do the work to provide a reasonable cause. They want to gather ALL of the data up, and then search it. They don't care if their net catches a thousand salmon and cod for each shark it catches. They think our communications are their property.

Right that's because while government doesn't value OUR privacy at all, they value their own more and more. Wanting to know what government does makes you an enemy of the state now. It should be illegal for the courts to grant such a warrant in the first place. In this case there isn't even a suggestion that the journalists in question committed a crime or did anything illegal. Its a fishing expedition just in CASE the journalists talk to someone that did something wrong. The whole thing needs to get tightened up. The governments security apparatus should have to provide evidence that a person is doing something illegal to even have a chance at getting a warrant. That warrant should expire after a week and they should have to prove their justification is still relevant to get it extended. And as soon as the warrant expires its content should be made public and the person who was under surveillance should be notified by the courts. But the that doesn't get to the real problem. The real problem is we have a country that's half full of cowards that actually support the government doing this kind of thing. They want the government to have new powers that violate our civil rights because they have irrational fears about crime (even though crime is at an all time low), or terrorism (even though theres less than a 1 in 20 million chance of them being subjected to an act of terrorism). All the government has to do is mention an emotional buzzword that frightens these cowards and they have a pretty good chance of doing whatever they want to do. Its easy to blame the government for this kind of thing but they are our own reflection in the mirror staring back at us. The problem is that we are lazy useless citizens that wouldn't miss an episode of Survivor to fight for our own rights and freedoms.

So recently we found out that the government has been wire-tapping journalists to try to find out who their confidential informants are. This kind of attack on our democracy on the freedom of the press is met with the statement "it disturbs me" by our prime minister. That's it. Nobody punished, nobody charged, nobody jailed. Nothing. In the mean time we have president Obama persecuting more whistle blowers than the previous few governments combined. And we have shit bags in the previous conservative government trying numerous times to give their security apparatus to perform warrantless wiretaps of Canadian citizens. They have tried invoking trumped up fears of terrorism as a justification. They have tried invoking pedophilia. They have tried invoking bullying. And each time Canadians told them to go and stuff their BS back up their own asses we were called (by retards like Vic Toews) that we are pedophile/terrorist supporters. The hatred and loathing our government has for our personal freedoms should be of grave concern but it seems like nobody cares. We will protest the construction of an oil pipeline which would probably reduce the threat of oil spills, but we wont even stand up for our basic fundamental rights and freedoms. What a bunch of losers. Here's some recent commentary from NM.... http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/source-journalist-leak-privacy-1.3837856

You hit the nail right on the head. Let me expand on it a little bit... Sweden is traditionally a forestry based economy but they have taken a totally different approach than Canada. Canada allows foreign multi nationals to run the business side in exchange for jobs (cutting down trees for example), and paltry royalties (stumpage fees, etc). Sweden (being a forestry based economy) has companies that manufacture equipment. Chainsaws, skidders, faller bunchers. Huskavarna, and Stil. They sell us the tools we use to cut down our own trees... Some of them are not even allowed to be used in Sweden because they cut down so much timber and create less jobs. Then we have Ikea... A global furniture giant. They sell us our wooden furniture too! Canadians lack business acumen. Its been too easy for us to live working for foreign companies that set up here. We work in the oil patch for Suncor... We make cars in Ontario for Ford and GM. We cut down trees for Western Forest Products in BC. We make almost nothing. We just rape the environment, and sell services to each other. That's it. And to make things worse we have gleefully bought into the whole "free trade / services based economy lie'. This is why we have a gigantic current account deficit. Theres just too damn many people not doing real work. For every person that actually picks up a shovel or makes a widget there are 3 people who just shuffle paper. They sell real estate, or work in the bloated financial services sector, or make a living flogging crappy Chinese imports to other Canadians. Stupid things happen to stupid people.

Or maybe blind partisanship and ideology has severely handicapped your mental capacity!

Sure.. What you failed to mention is that that guy has 6 floors to himself all decked out in luxurious trappings.... And everyone else lives in the basement with bare concrete walls, in 10x10 apartments. That's how wealth is distributed in Canada.

"You guys" is an imaginary group of people in your head. I never said anything like that. And immigration policy is completely centered around economics, and is driven by the business and banking sectors who have commissioned numerous studies calling for increased immigration. I even explained to you WHY they want more. The constant use of the word "Shiny Pony" is something somebody in grade 3 would do.

Its new technology not ready for prime time yet. Basically the molecules automatically allign themselves to magnetic north and you collect the power there with a copper wire. It has nothing to do with making heat, it actually turns the painted surface into a solar panel that produces current. http://www.nanoflexpower.com/automotive These guys are starting to make photo-voltaic paints. Same with these guys. http://www.proudgreenhome.com/news/new-paint-additive-turns-any-surface-into-a-solar-panel/

Physical exchangeable currency will ALWAYS exist. There's a lot of demand for it, and people will always want to do private transactions that the government doesn't monitor. If the government was dumb enough to end its use it would just be replaced by another alternative by a private company. Any company could sell tokens that it guarantees to redeem. And anyone could use those tokens for a transaction.

Thousands of Canadian towns don't even HAVE banks. And as inflation takes it course, we should start printing bigger bills again. Bring back the thousand.

LOL, you're acting like its some kind of surprise that election campaigns are designed to appeal to certain demographics and many of the promises made turn out to be hollow? Quick! Somebody get Argus a tissue!

Its been explained about a dozen times in this thread alone. A terrible idea and no government will do it.

ROFLMAO. You just posted a link that explains the same thing I did. And you did nothing at all to defend your objectively false statement that loans come from deposits and bank profits. The fact is commercial banks created 97% of the money in existence by issuing loans. But don't believe it from me... Take it from the former chairman of the midland bank. Or the former chairman of New Zealands central bank... Or the secretary of the British Treasury Or the Boston federal reserve bank... Or any text book about macro economics or monetary theory/policy... Simple question... do you still want to stand by your statement that the money banks loan out comes from deposits and their own assets? Because thats not what you link says... and not what I tried to explain to you... that's not the banks say... that's not what people who manage the monetary system say... Thats not what anyone who has ever spent more than 5 minutes reading about it in their entire life says. Maybe you should brush up a bit before you post in any more threads about economics?

Its funny that you would even write posts about economics when you don't even understand what money is or where it comes from. The banks don't need a money farm. They create money simply by electronically writing it into a customers account. They have almost none of the money they lend out on deposit. This is how a fractional reserve system works. If the reserve rate is 10% for example a commercial bank can lend ten dollars out for every 1 dollar they have. When they do that 9 brand new dollars are created out of thin air. But it doesn't stop there because eventually someone will deposit that money in another account at some bank, and now it can be multiplied again. This is how almost all money is created. Its literally borrowed into existence. No new borrowers? No more money. Only 3% of our money supply was actually created by our government at the mint. The rest of it is created by commercial banks based on the borrowers promise to pay. Before you start drooling on yourself and blathering that I'm a conspiracy theorist, read this little primer. This is why the banks are so hawkish on immigration. Our big banks did a study a few years ago, and they recommended we increase it with the goal of having a population of about 50 million. They are worried about the economy because our savings rates are so low, and they worry that people will eventually get so tapped stop borrowing. That's why interest rates are so low, and that's why the banks are sending you unsolicited mail begging you to take a credit card, or take out a home equity line of credit. The truth is when you pay of a loan to the bank that money is extinguished. It disappears from existence. So if you don't have an ever increasing pool of borrowers the money supply will contract, and because economic growth is dependent on the availability of synthetic money , contraction means a recession or worse. And THIS is why no matter how much you whine about the government will always set immigration targets around steady population growth. Your understanding of economics is like what one would expect from an 8 year old. First you try to evaluate the economic impacts of immigration based on only direct payments to and from the government. That's a school yard laffer right there. And then you openly admit you dont know what money is... in a thread about economics.

Pay attention. It has nothing to do with the government "outlawing" the purchase of imports. It has to do with the government DECIDING on where to procure stuff. Foreign companies and multi-nationals would still be free to shop their products and services in the open market, but governments spending tax payer dollars should be free to choose who they buy stuff from. Panels staffed with lobbyists and corporate executives should not make laws for Canadians that supersede our own.

No I'm a little way more than half way through reading the deal myself and I have read dozens of articles about it. Its a fair point to mention that you didnt say you supported the deal... I guess that was an assumption. I hope you DO read the deal and make your own judgement, but the problem is almost nobody will, and not one single politician will read it either before they pass it. Nope. Barack Obama was born in the US, aliens never landed in Roswell, and the US really did land on the moon. The claims I'm making are not conspiracy theory. I showed evidence that these deals are written not by politicians but by corporate lobbyists and active senior executives. I showed you evidence of various parts of these deals that are contrary to the public interest. Not only are these things not "conspiracy theories" but it would be impossible to not know about them if you are even vaguely paying attention.

You can say what you want about "buy local" policies, but they are popular and if people want their democratically elected governments to implement them, then that should be our right. And it has not been made clear to people how many laws (which supersede our own laws) are bundled up into these massive corporate welfare agreements.

Right the opinions of people that have read the deal. Unlike your faith based support without having read a single word of it just because its branded as "free trade". There could be a provision in there that allows someone to come to your house and take all your possessions, and you would STILL support it because you would never know it was in there. If you don't want to accept any of the links supporting my claim about "buy local" then do a bit research on your own for god sakes. This isnt some conspiracy theory that I dreamed up, its been a focal point of this deal.

If the government is involved yes probably. And the crazy thing is it wont even be a case in Canadian courts! Authors of the TPP and Ceta are trying to set up special "arbitration panels" staffed with industry friendly "judges", to make decisions that cant be appealed.

There's a ton of ways for this to happen. One is the revolving door lobby where politicians are promised high paying jobs after they leave office... Often as lobbyists. After a career in politics you have a lot of connections and access. You can sell it to private corporations for a lot of money. But the biggest factor is that government and big business just naturally gravitate to one another. The politicians are judged on the economy, but they are not economists... they know nothing about it. So they surround themselves with representatives from the industries that drive the economy and create jobs, and basically do what they are told. Direct campaign contributions are only one tiny factor in the massive influence businesses have over government. Heres a list of politicians that are now lobbyists in the US. Abraham, Spencer (R) Allard, Wayne (R) Allen, George (R) Ashcroft, John (R) Bayh, Evan (D) Bennett, Robert F (R) Bond, Christopher Kit (R) Boschwitz, Rudy E (R) Breaux, John (D) Brown, Scott (R) Bryan, Richard H (D) Bumpers, Dale (D) Burns, Conrad (R) Burris, Roland (D) Campbell, Ben Nighthorse (R) Cleland, Max (D) Cohen, William S (R) Coleman, Norm (R) Conrad, Kent (D) Corzine, Jon S (D) Craig, Larry (R) D'Amato, Alfonse M (R) Daschle, Tom (D) Deconcini, Dennis (D) DeMint, Jim (R) Dixon, Alan J (D) Dodd, Chris (D) Dole, Bob (R) Dorgan, Byron L (D) Durenberger, Dave (R) Faircloth, Lauch (R) Ford, Wendell H (D) Gorton, Slade (R) Gramm, Phil (R) Grams, Rod (R) Gregg, Judd (R) Hagel, Chuck (R) Hutchinson, Tim (R) Hutchison, Kay Bailey (R) Johnston, J Bennett (D) Kasten, Robert W Jr (R) Kaufman, Ted (D) Kempthorne, Dirk (R) Kerrey, Bob (D) Kirk, Paul (D) Kyl, Jon (R) Lieberman, Joe (I) Lincoln, Blanche (D) Lott, Trent (R) Mack, Connie III (R) Martinez, Mel (R) Mathews, Harlan (D) McClure, 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Sure... Here's a few. Leaked CETA Treaty: Major Blow to Buy Local Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) Buy Local. Build Local. Stop CETA. TPP and CETA will not allow to buy local Economic study supports 'buy local' as Harper tries to ban it in EU This is exactly why they try to keep these deals secret until they are passed. They are written by corporate executives and lobbying groups, to benefit multi-national corporations. And the sad thing is that free trade religionists will support any deal labelled "free trade" without ever reading a single word of whats in it. But these agreements are full of hundreds of "laws" that supersede our own ability to make our own laws. Many of them eroding national sovereignty and democracy. Lets have a "free trade" agreement with Europe! They drop their tarrifs we drop ours. Its a good idea. But they should not be cramming all kinds of other stuff in there that is contrary to the public interest. CETA and the TPP are deals that were written buy big corporations to maximize their profits, and because they don't like when elected national governments get in the way of them making money. The politicians in Ottawa and Washington that will pass them did not write them, and they haven't even read them. And neither have any of you, or anyone else that supports these deals.

I disagree that he did it with malice. He did what he thought was right, whether you agree with him or not. With increasingly secretive governments and the replacement of democracy with corprocracy we need to get at real data anyway we can. Snow is whistle blower and a hero.

I don't know if it was a poor IT solution. Email is inherently unsecure no matter how you set it up, because the reader always gets a copy. In this case John Podesto's computer seems to have been hacked, and once that happened the data would have escaped no matter what kind of email server was being used. I tell people at my company all the time... DON'T PUT SENSITIVE INFORMATION IN EMAILS. Not only are emails insecure but you could be forced to turn them over by the courts or the government or the police. This is information governance 101. Don't keep electronic data around for longer than you need it. Have a good tight deletion policy. And have sensitive conversations on the phone or in person. And the funny thing is... Its the US government that is targeting her about this. And they are probably the most leaky institution in the world. They lose control of tens of millions of documents every year. Clinton's personal email server was probably just as secure as the government servers she was supposed to be using. In any case its a good lesson for all. Don't say anything in an email that you would not want to be on the front page of a news article tomorrow. As for the Snowden / Clinton comparison... Clinton is much worse. Snowden was a whistle blower that performed a great service to people. Hillary is just another sloppy, corrupt, stupid politician. It would be a mistake to choose a total abject retard like Trump instead of Clinton over this issue... but even if shes the lesser of two evils shes still gross and dirty. I would rather give Bush or Obama a third term than have either of them, if I was a yank. And if I had to have a Clinton I would rather have Bill.

They forgot to mention a couple of things... 1. CETA will ban government at all levels from “buy local” policies. Your government or municipality wont even be able to source products and services from your own city or province. The government will not be allowed to decide that a piece of military hardware should be built in Canada, etc etc. Even when something is completed funded by Canadian taxpayers governments will not be allowed to have a policy to award contracts to the Canadian companies that paid much of those taxes. 2. Investor Rights - This term refers to giving foreign corporations based in Canada the right to sue our government for public policies that affect the maximization of their profits. Already Canada is facing nearly $2.5 billion worth of corporate lawsuits under NAFTA’s investment protection chapter, including one from an oil and gas company against Quebec’s moratorium on fracking and another against Canada by the pharmaceutical company, Eli Lilly, demanding a $100 million for “expropriation” because the courts refused to grant a drug patent on the grounds it did not satisfy conditions set down by Canadian law.

I understand that, but to try to pass yourself off as some kind of business genius when you are deep down in that second have you mentioned is disingenuous. And I don't know if you can consider those "solid businesses". The owners and investors made less money than if they had just bought into an indexed fund and did nothing at all.