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All this cooperation from Arab countries (Saudi, Egypt, Jordan) and the Israeli government still repeats the same old about Arab countries wanting to drive Israel into the sea.

You would be okay with shooting a 14 or 15 year old but not a 12 year old? Would 2 years make a difference in this context? If not, why do you bother posting?

Just so there is no misunderstanding and we all have the same meaning of empathy: em·pa·thy (ěm'pə-thē) n. 1. Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives. Why should anyone feel empathy towards something that is wrong?

Why do you pretend that you're above name calling and above being biased and that you're an impartial objective poster, when you clearly are not. Have a great weekend. You stupid idiot.

Ah. Nice link to basically nothing but a bunch of babble. Israel itself originally reported that 150 Palestinians were killed. There was never any confirmation on the numbers because Israel was not allowing any of the relief and humanitarian agencies or the media to enter the camp. At the end of it all, once the media and the humanitarian organizations were able to go into the camp, it was reported that 52 Palestinians had been killed, with 22 of them civilians. It was also reported that; Human Rights Watch documented 22 civilian killings during the IDF incursion, and said that "Many of them were killed willfully or unlawfully, and in some cases constituted war crimes." Examples highlighted in the report include the case of 57-year old Kamal Zugheir who was shot and then run over by IDF tanks while in his wheelchair, and that of 37-year old Jamal Fayid, a quadraplegic crushed to death in the rubble of his home after an IDF bulldozer advanced upon it, refusing to allow his family to intervene to remove him Link This is a perfect example of how you have no idea what you're talking about. You didn't even know what you were on about when screaming "YEAH! JUST LIKE THE SO-CALLED JENIN MASSACRE!!!" This was your failed attempt at discrediting human rights organization.

What? It's a pretty short article. Did you seriously miss this part in the article you, yourself have posted? The deal will be covered by American foreign assistance funds. The Pentagon will issue a formal announcement on the matter on Thursday evening. In case you missed it: The deal will be covered by American foreign assistance funds.

You say you don't agree with collective guilt but you want these Muslims to 'feel' collective guilt towards those who wrongly feel that Muslims (as a collective entity) shouldn't build there, and actually not build there. It's like watching someone claiming to be an anti-racist and then asking black people to feel empathy towards a racist who feels a black person should not buy a house in their neighbourhood because there was a shooting incident involving a black person. 33 pages later and you are still shrugging and screaming "WHAT?! WHAT?!" while sinking deeper into the quicksand you have created for yourself. Maybe you should take your own advice and try to comprehend what you are saying and kindly do something about it.

You guys would be okay with the police shooting an American 12 year old throwing rocks at the police?

I was not presented with facts. All I saw was an article about Hamas uprooting houses because, as it was written, they were without permits. Contrary to what you say, I did condemn Hamas as I have before numerous times. I said that it is morally wrong to do it (which to me, is a condemnation, no?), but I do not know the legality behind the situation. Unlike the situation in East Jerusalem where it is illegal, as according to international law (this is a fact which is accepted by the whole world, including the U.S. and Canada), for Israel to demolish homes of Palestinians. Contrary to what you say, I don't hate Israel. I do, however, 'hate' Israel's policy towards the Palestinians. I believe that the Palestinians are being treated unjustly and so I speak up about it. What makes the Palestinians' situation stand out more to me than other unfortunate situations around the world is the fact that many Western governments support Israel, despite their constant violations of international law. I also 'hate' how the name of Jews are being tainted by Zionism, which started out as something I would have supported, but then it has morphed into a racist and immoral ideology. You couldn't be more wrong. If you want to call reference to international law and reports by expert organizations as baseless, then you are proving, yet again, that you're not here to defend the truth and justice. Isn't this what you have done here? Show me one thread or post that supports or justifies Hamas' illegal actions in this forum. I will show you hundreds of threads and post that support Israel's well-documented illegal activities. Many happen to come from you. This conflict happens to be one-sided and disproportionate if you count the violations committed, the number of people killed, number of lives ruined and the weapons used. However, you want every criticism of Israel to be followed by a criticism of their newest enemy (Hamas). I'm not going to sit here and pretend this is a 50/50 situation. Have you looked at the Goldstone Report? Both Hamas' and the IDF's alleged use of human shields have been methodically investigated. There are several pages on this that you should read if you really care to understand the situation. What you are doing is taking unfounded blanket statements and applying it as your proof. What do you have against research and investigations into allegations? That is rich. What do you call threads and posts from Bonam, jbg, Dancer, DogOnPorch, August, Argus, etc. etc.? SOOOO one-sided. Right. Those are all what? Why play this miserable victim card. Everyone knows that Israel is no longer the victim and that they are the ones who are preventing any progress towards a just peace. Illegal settlements on Palestinian land and creating a humanitarian crisis on the Gaza people by blocking pasta from going in is not defending yourself from existence. You're just repeating a same old cliche statement from those who unconditionally support Israel and who have lost the battle against facts. I don't think anyone suggested this. What is wrong is breaking international law. You keep forgetting that. Why shouldn't everyone live by the standards of international law? Why do you have a difficult time condemning 'everyone' who breaks international law? Israel just happens to violate international law many times over and they have been doing it for so long, while we still have apologists trying to justify their violations. Why should we sit silent while the Israeli propaganda machine tries to paint a make belief world? If I feel that people need to discuss the issue and hear about the issues, I make a post about it. It's your choice if you want to pretend they're not happening. Heh heh. You are thanking me for allegedly making you more biased towards Israel and more anti-international law? Do you read the crap that you type? Why don't you actually do what you pretend to do, which is to be objective on this situation. Why don't you ever apply qualified investigations and reports and international law to this conflict?

A suicide bomber does not void international law. A lawyer should know that. NDP's stance on the conflict in the middle east is: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the NDP use every available means to help restore Canada's position in support of justice and international law http://www.cicweb.ca/media/news_060910_ndp.cfm So how can you be 'left' of the NDP when you prefer to stomp all over international law?

What does Canada's purchase of US planes have anything to do with Israel's violations of international law and U.S. unconditional support for them? One interesting thing about the 2 deals though: The US has 'given' Israel these aircrafts, while Canada has purchased theirs. This, while Israel continues to build the illegal settlements and against U.S.'s former wishes. If only the US taxpayers knew.

Please cite examples of half-truths and outright lies. I will gladly cite your half-truths and outright lies. Show the whole world how the Goldstone report was not neutral and unbalanced. Your contempt for international law is proof that you are not a lawyer. And what is this "Radical Leftist". What do you even mean by that?

Again, a bad comparison. However, for the sake of argument, they should all abide by international law and agreements. What do you think of that?

Nonsensical because people on the Falklands are not kept in an open air prison. There isn't a humanitarian crisis. How many people live on the Kuril islands exactly? International law has clearly stated Israel's border, whereas, nothing has been determined about your 2 examples.

Obama has become good at talking. Actions speak louder than words. Didn't the U.S. just sign a huge military deal with Israel? Didn't U.S. back down from the condition of the settlement freeze?

You mean justice will result in war and Israel's version of peace means undermining international law. 'No doubt'. You will type anything to fill your posts. The IDF lies quite often. Many of their claims turned out to be untrue, after investigations by human rights organizations and Richard Goldstone. For example, Israel accused Hamas of using civilians as human shield. It turned out that Israel used Palestinian civilians as human shields numerous times. Are you okay with that, Mr. Radical Left lawyer?

I have addressed it in another post. Will wait for Army Guy to respond to my post.

Another nonsensical comparison.

To Israel. Doesn't matter what Israel does, the U.S. will continue to give them the money and political backing. Didn't Israel kick Biden in the teeth during his visit to Israel? How did U.S. respond?

Thank you. If only you could go back to the medieval ages, then you would be set. Do the Germans want Danzig back? Is there a big conflict? Are the Polish keeping a group of Germans in an open air prison and violating humanitarian laws? Is there a blockade? Is the U.S. giving $3 billion a year in military funds to Poland to continue violating human rights?

We get it BC2004. You don't care for morality, the law and justice. You just cheer for the team that has the biggest guns.

Here is the problem with your information: - The information is on West Bank and Gaza. - The graph was published in 1999-2003. Well before the blockade on Gaza started. When was the web site made? I asked you before and you never answered. You continue to use the web site, which was copyrighted in 2008, before the Gaza attack. There is also a video on the restaurant site which shows Mahmoud Abbas dining at it. When is the last time Mahmoud Abbas stepped into Gaza? Army Guy: Do you believe that World Health Organization, UNICEF and other humanitarian organizations are lying about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza? They are there in Gaza and have the numbers to back up their claims. Do you think photos, videos and graphs (which have been shown to be from years ago) are proof that these organizations are lying? It seems like you're trying hard to unconditionally justify Israel's actions and are doing nothing but spreading misinformation.

Jesus. You're not funny. Especially not when you get desperate like this.. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Does U.S. give $3 billion a year in military funds and unconditional political backing to those committing the slaughtering in Congo? If so, then this thread would make sense.

You have called Amnesty International biased. You have called Human Rights Watch biased. You have Richard Goldstone biased. Why? Because their investigations have led to the criticism of Israel. You are a desperate apologist.