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It is if you remember I'm not attributing race or religion to the killings... the common factor is that it's women being killed, more often than not at the hands of men. Even worse.... most times it's a supposed loved one. Exactly. It's not a Muslim thing, nor is it a ME thing. But don't kid yourself that women in western societies suffer less violence. It's different, less sensationalized, perhaps, but we definitely do suffer violence.

Fructose, sucrose, lactose... they're all sugars.

It is. Thank you so much!

Thanks for the links..... but only one victim was a 14 year old and none were in West Hampshire. No balconies were involved, either.

all right, this lefty wisn't telling anyone to shut up. My preferred phrase is to back up, as in.... Scores? Really?

Let's stick with misogynistic, as that's the topic here. It's not like Canada doesn't have plenty of misogynists of her own. Women get beat up and killed all too frequently, and as has been pointed out, it wasn't all that long ago that the attitude was to simply look the other way. I'm old enough to remember when a man couldn't be charged with raping his wife... it was perfectly legal. So when someone asked which century this is.... we don't have to look too far into our past to find similar distasteful attitudes. Dec 6, 1989, Marc Lepine killed 14 women because they were women. Man, I could go on and on here. Women get killed, and the men who kill them get creative in their reasoning. She dishonoured me. She slept with my best friend. I was drunk. She took what I thought should be my place and it's therefore her fault I 'm a loser. Why single out what is actually a fairly isolated incident?

Quite obviously the concern ISN'T about the safety of women. It's about reinforcing the belief that Muslims are bad. I said as much on the other thread, but I don't really see this as any different from anyone else killing their wife and/or kids. Look at that guy in Merritt. Killed his 3 kids so his wife wouldn't get custody. He sure showed her, eh? THAT scenario is far more common than "honour killings" in Canada. It's simply a new defense. That's all.

Behind. Right now it says it's 10:39, when it's actually 11:07.

I don't really care why they killed these women (and girls). I care that they find an excuse, any excuse, to kill them. Again, this is nothing new. Men have been killing their wives and daughters forever. Is "honour" any worse than anger or jealousy or drunken rage?

um, what?

Give your head a shake, man. There would be an outcry. There IS an outcry over these killings too. Who are these "you people" that are making excuses and ignoring facts? Men controlling and murdering women.... you think this is new and exclusive to Muslims? You really don't want to get me started on that.

You're right. I remember when they looked into the best way to have Canada be bilingual. They looked at several countries, and found the best model was Switzerland, where each official language had its own area. Then we chose to make ther entire country, spread out as we are, completely bilingual.

Do you really want this to be yet another right/left thing? Do you really think opinions are so neatly split along ideological lines? If so.... I take great offense to the above statement, as well as the OP.

This is what I'm thinking.

What are you doing here? Have you already met your daily quota? Or are you just taking a break?

Which ones.... these facts? Yeah... it's party time for us "urban lefties". We be celebratin' tonight.

Screw you.

So.... what IS the diffference then? They're both official gov't documents, right? So why would he need to produce a second one? And were any other candidates ever required to produce theirs?

I thought it was just because I'm special. So.... who here is normal?

Clearly your kids aren't "real" citizens.

One victim was a wife, yes, but he called her his cousin. The other 3 were their daughters.

I'm left handed. I"m a deviant too.

Words fail. There's no honour in killing someone. And for what... because the 3 teenaged girls (13-19) "shamed" him because of their "behaviour" here in Canada? We need to figure out a way to *really* shame thse people (and by that, I mean the 3 accused) and do just that.

I read "source" as "score". I'm interested in either. Argus? What's your official count?

What's the difference between the two, anyway? Is it like the big version vs the wallet-sized one we can get here?