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Nazi or not, you certainly are not above throwing racial slurs around! But you didn't answer my questions ... Odinism or Wotanism? You and McHale?

Well, the sacred knowledge is passed down to those who have proven themselves worthy and have the required characteristics... I think you're reading into this too much... Oh do tell me more about the "worthy" and their "characteristics". Hmm ... Odinism is ... er ... interesting: 6. The Brotherhood teaches absolute self-reliance. Members would "rather steal than accept charity." You can't be serious! Or is it ... Wotanism Wotanism is the name of a racial religion promulgated by David Lane. Wotan is the German name for the Germanic god known in Norse as Odin. Lane's Wotanism is distinctly different and separate from Odinism which is one of the names for Germanic neopaganism. Wotan is the German name for the Germanic god known in Norse as Odin. Lane's Wotanism is distinctly different and separate from Odinism which is one of the names for Germanic neopaganism. Based on the essay entitled Wotan by Carl Jung, the term Wotanism in modern times heavily emphasizes white supremacy and National Socialism (NS). W.O.T.A.N. is also used as an acronym for Will Of The Aryan Nation, used by some Wotanists.[1] Unlike Germanic neopagans, most Wotanists emphasize dualism and view the Gods as Jungian archetype. [2] [3] Wotanist groups include the Gambanreidi Statement, WotansVolk and the Temple of Wotan. WotansVolk and the Temple of Wotan were both founded under the direct influence of David Lane, by his wife Katja Lane (Katuscha Maddox) and Ron McVan, a former high ranking member of the World Church of the Creator. Which one are you? And what does this have to do with McHale? Is he one too? Good god, they are recruiting in the prisons! WotansVolk and the Temple of Wotan were known for having prisoner outreach ministries. In 2001 there were prison kindreds linked with Wotansvolk in all federal states of the USA and the groups supported more than 5000 prisoners. Research by Mattias Gardell indicated "a pagan revival among the white prison population, including the conversion of whole prison gangs to the ancestral religion.".[5] ... The Temple of Wotan dissolved and reformed into the National Prison Kindred Alliance, (NPKA) which has no relation with Wotanism. (ya right) The whole soap opera ... http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread...-23-503701.html

worthy of what? Wearing a swastika? Come on ... tell the truth ... we know where you are going with this! What are the "right characteristics"? Come clean!! And btw ... does candidate McHale approve of you promoting white supremacy in his thread?

I responded to the "zoo" comment.

Speaking of self-interest ... The document - entitled "The True North Strong and Free: Stephen Harper's plan (???) for Canadians" - is a glossy, 41-page booklet printed in huge blue font that includes 22 colour photos of Harper. The man does not even try to camouflage that this is a one man government!! I rest my case.

Hurrah!!! What a relief. So glad to see Harper take a dive. I hope the party gets rid of him and elects Jim Prentice. I think it is becoming clearer that Canadians are not interested in having a dictator/majority. What we want to for the "zoo" to stop acting like they have conduct disorders and start acting like the government, start working together in the interests of Canadians instead of in their own political interests. In short, I'd like to see them behave the way students are expected to behave - cooperatively. I'd like to see them behave the way employers want their employees to behave - teamwork I don't think we can afford this bloated system of self interest any longer.

No he's protecting 'Aryan secrets' But again, what on earth does this have to do with candidate McHale? And "passed down to" whom? Obviously not me, not all humans, just a select few? Hmm ... which 'few' would that be??

There are lots of Christians who do not hold those extremist views. You can't use Christianity to hide the extremism. The extremism stands by itself.

Oh ... and where did Odin come from? And again ... aren't you straying far from the topic? And are you sure Candidate McHale wants to be associated with this ... um ... 'theory' ... which I believe is part of the 'theory' leading up to the 'superiority' of the Aryan peoples?

I think the most dangerous thing about Harper is how he muzzles the MP's and the media. These are truly anti-democratic moves. I don't believe that Harper truly believes in democracy. To him it is just a system to be distorted so that he can become a dictator. He is not a team player, does not know how to be part of a team, and believes he can rule all of us from his own ideological perspective ... like ... dare I say ... Hitler and other dictators.

Interesyting topic. Did anyone hit on the fact that the G-G is a critical part of our democratic checks and balances? Her powers are intended to protect us from elected politicians run amok. In fact, that's why she is Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, to protect us from being attacked by our own governments. There is a tricky part of separating from the Monarch that Trudeau could not navigate. Canada does not 'own' its land mass. Rather, Canadians live here by treaties with Indigenous Peoples. The Treaties are vested in the Crown. Without re-negotiating every treaty, the best Trudeau could do was have Canada created as a corporation. That is what the Canada Act did, though we refer to it as our 'Constitution'. We are a nation of peoples. We are not a country with its own land mass, however.

Oh yes ... passed down ... must be ... Remind me ... where did Odin come from?

Ya, but ... u down with the "Odin" schtick?

Descendents of Odin? Pretty weird stuff. We all came from Africa, but some say there were several migrations. In fact it is known that the Aboriginal people of Australia migrated out of Africa about 100,000 years ago, so why could there not have been migration to ANorth America too? If you look at the globe, it makes more sense than going around the world the other way! However, that whole area of research is in an uproar because of what mtdna and new finds have shown. Scientists Find 1.8-million-year-old Homo Erectus Skull By Associated Press posted: 22 August 2005 03:43 pm ET TBILISI, Georgia (AP) -- Archaeologists in the former Soviet republic of Georgia have unearthed a skull they say is 1.8 million years old and part of a find that holds that oldest traces of humankind's closest ancestors ever found in Europe. The findings in Georgia, which researchers said were a million years older than any widely accepted pre-human remains in Europe, have provided additional evidence that Homo erectus left Africa a half-million years or more earlier than scientists had previously thought. The 'Moundbuilders' sites in North America provide evidence of a sophisticated civilization living here long before the migrations from Asia. Since these original people seemed to be Caucasian, evidence of their civilization was covered up to continue the myth that the land was 'unoccupied'. The archeological findings are inevitably polluted with politics and the race war. There are those who refuse to believe that Caucasians came from Africa, and those who refuse to believe that North America was heavily populated with a Caucasian society (haplogroup x) long before the migration from Asia (haplogroups a,b,c,d) and before Columbus or Cartier set foot. At this point, it's all anybody's guess. However, the mtdna research is incomplete since most Iroquoian communities refused to participate. Fascinating thing is that the research seems consistent with Edgar Cayce's much maligned theories of Atlantis. They suggested that, prior to 9,000 B.C., various hunter-gatherer groups occupied the region. These groups included people from the X haplogroup. Extremely significant in light of the Cayce readings is the presence of haplogroup X in ancient Basque mtDNA. While popular press reports have often termed haplogroup X as "Caucasoid," this speculative idea has been generally discredited by researchers. In 1997, haplogroup X was discovered in about 3 percent of modern Native Americans and in ancient North American remains as well. The X type is frequently found in modern descendants of the Iroquois and in ancient burials in Iroquois' lands. The X haplogroup has also been identified in the Middle East and, in 2001, it was found in a tribe living in the Altaic Mountains of the Gobi. All of these of course are areas where Cayce specifically stated Atlantean survivors fled in 10,000 B.C. The Editors of Ancient Mysteries, along with John Van Auken, have hypothesized that the X haplogroup may be the genetic link to the ancient Atlanteans. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/..._genetica12.htm

I think she's absolutely right. The other things you mention have to be dealt with, but proportional representation won't come up among politicians unless someone brings it up. We definitely need electoral reform. They are just to cozy with their targetted ridings, polling, etc. Time to shake them up!

http://www.foundlocally.com/Hamilton/local...toryIndians.htm Hamilton History - Native Indians & Early Explorers The first humans, the Clovis people, arrived in Niagara Region almost 12,000 years ago, around the time of the birth of the Falls, when the land was tundra with spruce forests. These nomadic hunters camped along the old Lake Erie shoreline, in small dwellings, and left little behind except chipped stones, likely used to hunt caribou, mastodons, moose and elk. By 9,500 years ago deciduous forest covered southernmost Ontario, supporting wildlife like deer, moose, fish and plants, enabling small groups to hunt in the winter, coming together into larger groups during the summer, to fish at shorelines and at the mouths of rivers. About 2,000 years ago, the Woodland Period brought Iroquois culture in southern Ontario. These peoples began agriculture based on crops of corn, bean and squash, which supported a boom in population and a rich culture with small palisaded villages in which extended families occupied individual longhouses. They developed ceramics technology and forged strong inter-village alliances. By the time the European explorers and missionaries arrived in the early 1600s, the Iroquoian villages had elected chiefs and were allied within powerful tribal confederacies. The Neutral Indians were the leaders of a group of ten tribes of the Iroquois Nation. Other tribes included the Seneca, Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, Huron, Petun, Erie and the Susquehannock. The French explorers , gave this Indian tribe the name "Neutrals", because of their position and status as peace keepers between the warring Hurons and Iroquois. Anyone who proposes that Six Nations do not have ancestral land rights in Ontario is mis-informed. From Clovis to today ... people of the Five Nations lived around Lakes Ontario and Erie. The only question is the extent of their territory. Along with their historical occupancy were the treaties that allow us to live here, treaties that are still honoured by Indigenous Nations. From these two facts, solutions can be generated by those willing to engage in real discussion instead of pointless debate. Since Candidate McHale specializes in misinformation and pointless 'debate' and even more pointless protest, he has absolutely nothing to offer to the situation, imo.

I was impressed with Elizabeth May's breadth of genuine knowledge, and grasp of the economics too. I know partisanship leads some to dismiss her, but listening to what she actually says, she sounded much less like a slick political operator than the rest of them. It's nice for once to see someone who seems more down to earth. In democracy, challenge is a good thing. We don't EVER want a single minded approach, imo. I think she brings a breath of fresh air, even if just by challenging the political 'norm'.

Gary McHale group greeted by heckler at city hall Brantford Expositor, Canada - Sep 30, 2008 Native media and activists had gathered for the meeting in the city council chamber, originally in response to the possibility that Gary McHale, a critic of ...

http://www.marchforfreedom.com/smf/index.p...msg3202#msg3202 "Gary's view on jobs" Those who want jobs can have them! Me, Gary McHale, I've never had a job, never have, , never will pay taxes but I'll just live off the public teat!

Harper's mouthing off really had little to do with the Arts. That was just his convenient tool. His purpose was to create division between 'regular working people" and the 'rich' Arts community. He made a bad choice, imo, both in lambasting the Arts, and in trying to create division. He is paying for his arrogance now: 1) "galas" are fundraisers, not subsidized. 2) Harper apparently wasn't aware that his wife was due to attend an Arts fundraising 'gala' soon. She has now cancelled. 3) Many 'regular working people' also have a taste for the Arts. Another Harper 'oops' that shows the man lives in a far-right bubble with blinders on.

It seems candidate McHale has some difficulty distinguishing between his extra-curricular activities, and legitimate campaigning. The goal of campaigning is to convince people to vote for you, not to thumb your nose at them! County lays down the law on election sign placement Letter outlining rules is on the way Posted By KAREN BEST CHRONICLE STAFF WRITER Posted 4 days ago All six candidates for the Haldimand-Norfolk riding will receive a letter notifying them that Haldimand County does not want signs stuck up on its property or in road allowances. After making this announcement, planning and economic general manager Craig Manley said he did not know if the county had the resources to deal with this. As far as Coun. Craig Grice was concerned, candidates should use integrity in putting up their signs and should only put them up where there is a name behind it. In the case of municipal property, the county does not and cannot support a particular candidate, he stated. In voicing frustration about election signs, Coun. Don Ricker mentioned acts of taunting the public by where signs were put up. He did not name any candidates or locations. On Sept. 19, Gary McHale nailed a sign into the OPP detachment front yard but when he turned around an officer removed it. The independent candidate challenged the officer and told him it was illegal to touch election signs. McHale filed a complaint, an investigation was initiated and a promise was made that his sign would not be touched. According to a 1997 Elections Canada press release, the Canada Elections Act states that removal or mutilation of a sign is an offence. Candidates who want to put signs on private property should obtain consent of the owner. In the case of public property, the candidates were urged to contact the municipality to ensure sign placement complied with requirements. The same process should occur for signs on provincial or federal Crown land. Based on a 1993 Supreme Court decision, signs on public property are protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The City of Peterborough's prohibition of signs on public property was declared unconstitutional by the court. http://www.dunnvillechronicle.com/ArticleD....aspx?e=1220133 Of course, the difference between "taunting" and campaigning is ... votes! Congrats to candidate McHale for lowering his campaign to schoolyard bully tactics! I'm sure that will help at the ballot box!

It occurs to me that many people reading this thread may not know who Gary McHale is, so I googled some news: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22...8&scoring=d Rally organizer arrested at Caledonia occupation... - cbc.ca Edmonton Sun - Globe and Mail - All 8 related - Related web pages Rally risks fragile peace at Caledonia cbc.ca - Oct 14, 2006 "Until the people themselves rise up, these problems will not be resolved," rally organizer Gary McHale said Saturday. Gary McHale is an organizer of the ... Related web pages Caledonia protester faces $7.4M suit Toronto Star - Apr 19, 2007 The officers are suing Gary McHale, the organizer of several divisive rallies in the southern Ontario town of Caledonia. The community has been living with ... Alleging website defames them, officers sue... - Globe and Mail All 2 related - Related web pages Fantino asked to attend rights mediation Toronto Star - Apr 7, 2008 Vandermaas, along with protester Gary McHale, have come under fire for holding numerous rallies against the police handling of the occupation in the ... Related web pages Polarizing figure takes on native protesters Globe and Mail - Jan 20, 2007 When dawn breaks this morning, Gary McHale and his wife, Christine, will pull away from Richmond Hill in a beige sedan with two Canadian flags tucked in the ... Riot police keep order at Caledonia protest - CTV.ca All 4 related - Related web pages Tense rally in Caledonia ends peacefully CTV.ca - Oct 15, 2006 Rally organizer Gary McHale staged the event, inviting people to join a rally with speeches calling for an end to the months-old occupation of a housing ... All 4 related - Related web pages

Hmm ... curious how a thread about Gary McHale turns into a thread about white supremacy! Just seems to follow him around ... like a bad fart!

My reason for posting is relevance to the thread topic, and this one too: Voters might be interested in knowing that said candidate McHale is out of jail on bail, and still under bail conditions while he is campaigning: http://cd989.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=13816

One person's view of candidate McHale... http://www.thespec.com/article/292116 And some McHale election sign misdemeanors ... http://www.thespec.com/article/441351