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Don't read my posts then. kengs333, your views are extreme and your thoughts are twisted with 'white supremacist' dogma, and you are continually derailing a thread that is not about you. I have no interest. Please stop addressing me.

I absolutely agree. There's always a few interesting ones in every election, usually harmless. And comic relief is always welcome, politics being what it is ... a race to the bottom

Your post have a disturbing tone. Not my cup of tea.

You could stop at "piss off". Racists do piss a lot of people off. 'nuff said. But I for one am looking forward to laughing at his measly votes! He's a parasite. I guess his friend is running out of money to pay McHale's rent, so he figures he'll try the public teat. He actually thinks he might win. hahahaha

hunh? I was referring to you expounding on white supremacism (above). I have Iroquois ancestors? Cool! I guess it must be clear to you now that you have me confused with someone else. But again ... why are you expounding on race and racism and white supremacism - and frankly some of your views do go there, if you know what I mean - in an unrelated thread about candidate McHale? Again I must ask ... because I am curious ... are you trying to slime him by associating him with those views? Are you an opponent of his perhaps?

Why are you expounding on these things ... er ... white supremacism ... in an unrelated thread about a political candidate, whom you claim you don't support? Are you trying to slime him? I don't like the guy either but ...

Good point, and they did historically. However, it appears that our courts are now falling in line, with International encouragement, and interpreting formerly illegal actions of governments as such. I'm fairly comfortable with the Supreme Court now, and the Ontario Court of Appeals too. The local 'provincial' courts are still a bit ... well ... 'provincial' if you know what I mean ... all in the 'family'. However, the courts did just throw legal claims out in the past. In fact, until the 1950's it was illegal, by Canadian law, for an Indigenous community to use the courts to sue the government for land or money owing. Then it was another 25 years before the government buckled to the successful lawsuits and set up its 'land claims' industry, which has been chewing up taxpayers' billions ever since, for the sole purpose of 'minimizing liability of the Crown' - i.e., doing nothing, and doing it very slowly, on our dime. True ... not the word, but the deed: Two primary objectives of the residential schools system were to remove and isolate children from the influence of their homes, families, traditions and cultures, and to assimilate them into the dominant culture. Apology UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide Article 2 In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: * (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. And the 'Truth' is supposed to be emerging over the next five years. Following the appointment of Justice Harry S. LaForme as the chair of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC), and of Claudette Dumont-Smith and Jane Morley as the two commissioners, the TRC officially began its work on June 1, 2008. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission is mandated to undertake a series of national and community events to allow school survivors to share their experiences and to educate the public about the schools' history and consequences. The Commission will operate for five years, but it is to deliver a report on historic findings and recommendations after two years. It is also to establish a research center by the end of its five-year term. Under the settlement agreement $60 million has been allocated to fund the Commission's work. International Centre for Transitional Justice: Canada ... but back to candidate McHale ... I'm afraid I must have sidetracked this discussion ... oops!

Ahh yes ... the good old days ... when white supremacism was 'normal'. I guess you guys miss that eh? It wasn't personal. Just an observation. And a conversation I won't prolong. -edit to add- This is without a doubt the most depraved 'justification' for the residential schools I have heard yet.

Do you have a source for "The number that would drink would go down slightly." and "Pot ... would have a small rise in users" ...? It is interesting to note that prohibition brought the ROARING '20's ... speakeasies, culture, creativity, crime ... And this interesting tidbit ... Warren G. Harding ... On the scandals, he commented, "My God, this is a hell of a job!" and, "I have no trouble with my enemies, but my damn friends, they're the ones that keep me walking the floors at night." I expect Harper can identify with that these days! (It's technically very difficult to muzzle an asshole. ) Harper has tunnel vision. He's trying to satisfy his obscure core constituency, who know nothing of the people about whom they choose to make judgments, imo.

There is very little help available. You don't know much about addiction, do you?

What evidence do you have about "refugees living off welfare their whole lives"?? Isn't that a bit presumptuous? Institutionalized rehab spots are few and far between, and it is much more expensive than paying welfare rates. Hell, it costs over $40,000/yr just to keep an inmate in jail, without any rehab. Welfare is much cheaper - about 1/7 of the cost. As I keep saying, it is apparent that those who complain about people on welfare really don't know much about the system at all. To assume that all addicts have a choice of going to residential rehab programs is extremely naive. The programs are simply not available, and the cost is prohibitive.

Addiction is not a choice, but a disease.

I don't answer personal questions on here, and you are out of line in asking. I know enough to know that the 'training' provided by OW (ON) does not help the chronically unemployable with mental health, addiction or other health issues that don't qualify for disability. Neither is it sufficient for teaching English. It's mickey mouse stuff - do a resume, be on time, etc - no real job training or literacy education.

70% want jobs to get off the street. The rest don't think they can get a job. However, many felt they could not handle conventional jobs because of mental illness, physical disability or lack of skills. Doesn't sound to me like they are saying they "want to" stay on the street.

It would help. However, I also believe that 24hr care and 3 meals a day should be provided in our schools, to moderate the effects of poverty, abuse, malnutrition, bad parenting, etc. That is, if we are really sincere about reducing dependence on the system, reducing crime, etc.

You can't really believe that! Can you explain, then, why native land claims are so often successful in the courts? That would be because Canada did not respect its own laws. The residential schools were not about education. They were about slavery and abuse and genocide. In particular, the destruction of their communities was designed "to take the land out of Indian hands". You are out of step with Canada, out of tune with reality. You'd better reread the apology delivered in June. This is garbage. You are a looney toon.

I agree. It is well known, for example, that at least 80% of the youth on the streets are escaping abuse in the home.

Those are short term courses, not long term literacy training need by those whose literacy skills are not up to today's standards. The training component is entirely inadequate. I think you need to add 'able-minded' too. 'Able bodied' is not enough to sustain a job these days.

She's on disability, not welfare. The Sun reporter is not qualified to make a judgment about that. Eg, People with MS or Parkinsons do not shake when they are "moving briskly", only when at rest. She is not ripping off the public there. Seems to me she's likely legitimately qualified for disability. It is the panhandling that people think is ripping off the public, and people are free not to contribute to that. Two adults and 3 children living in a one bedroom apt? Not exactly living 'high off the hog' is it? Do you want her life? Do you think it's 'easy street'?

Irrelevant. As a Canadian, I expect my governments to respect our own laws.

Please expound upon this further to clarify what you learned. Such bald faced accusations demand evidence, and not of the twisted McHale type. Let's hear the evidence for the claims you make so we can make up our own minds.

These are urbaqn myths created to allow the money class to continue to rip off the poor. Prove any of these claims, please.

You make the arrogant assumption that others are out to rip off the system, but not you. Prove it!! Hire the people on welfare.

See info provided above re abuse rate of 2-3%. (I guess caseworkers overpay by mistake 17-18% of the time) That's my point: Some people (like you) think there are all these non-disabled people ripping off the system. You have no friggen idea how hard it is to get disability even if you are disabled. Also, it is people like you who look at people like my friend and assume she's "ripping off' the system because "She looks fine to me". They think she's just "too lazy to work". Point being ... members of the public are not in a position to judge the disabilities of others, and should stop suggesting that disabled people are ripping off the system. Walk in their shoes before making quick, ill-informed judgments. "Too lazy to work" ?? ... Prove it!

The Constitution is the supreme law of Canada, the law that must be satisfied before other laws are applied. The order of precedence is Treaty Law (nation-to-nation) Constitutional Law Common Law Thus, for example, a criminal charge will be thrown out if the Constitutional rights of the accused have been violated. Yes, the Constitution most certainly is law.