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wtf??

I think it sucks to disrupt anyone's anthem. Just because it's happened before, doesn't mean it should happen again.

And when will that be? So ... you would punish the children with hunger for the inability of their parents? So? If they only make minimum wage their children will still be hungry. Ya ... some are not very employable are they? (That was my point.) And their kids are hungry anyway. So ... what now?

Are you for real?

"haters of the west" ??

"Redress" is not my area, but I think all Canadians should know the real facts. And the fact is that there were pretty much only explorers and military and traders throughout in North and South America in the 1500's, a hundred years of "conquest", and before settlers and colonies came about, the 95% genocide was already over. Interesting factoid ... the 'Red Ensign' of Canada is the flag of the British MERCHANT marine.

President Obama opens door to prosecution regarding torture techniques BY Kenneth R. Bazinet DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU Updated Tuesday, April 21st 2009, 7:31 PM President Barack Obama speaks to the CIA employees at the George Bush Center for Intelligence. Sachs/Pool WASHINGTON - The Team Bush brain trust that approved CIA torture techniques faces a roughing-up after President Obama reopened the possibility of investigation - and even prosecution. Just five days after urging against "recrimination" for the George W. Bush-era torture of terror suspects, President Obama said Attorney General Eric Holder is free to probe the White House higher-ups who authorized the tough treatment. YES!! "With respect to those who formulated those legal decisions, I would say that that is going to be more of a decision for the attorney general within the parameters of various laws, and I don't want to prejudge that," Obama said. "I think that there are a host of very complicated issues involved there," he added. Obama's taking the "high" road. YES!!

Some info about the protest by Tamil Canadians in Ottawa ... An estimated 100,000 civilians remain trapped in the conflict zone between the Tamil Tigers and the Sri Lankan army in the north of the country. On Monday, the Sri Lankan government gave the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) 24 hours to lay down their arms or face further attack in a "final offensive" raising concerns that civilian casualties could spiral. "The security of civilians trapped between Sri Lankan forces and the Tamil Tigers is paramount," said Yolanda Foster, Amnesty International's Sri Lanka expert. "The plight of these civilians demands that the Sri Lankan government and the LTTE take all necessary measures immediately to prevent unlawful killing of civilians and that they fully comply with their obligations under international humanitarian law. "The LTTE and the Sri Lankan government must cease hostilities with immediate effect and agree to extend a humanitarian pause for a reasonable duration, in order to permit civilians to leave as well as the reopening of access routes for food, water and medical supplies. " Both parties have an obligation to comply with international humanitarian law in all circumstances. However, the government appears to have resorted to the use of heavy weapons such as artillery, which is intended for use on conventional battlefields and are not capable of pinpoint targeting. The use of artillery in densely populated areas is likely to lead to indiscriminate attacks. "The Tamil Tigers must cease forced recruitment, the use of civilians as human shields and deliberate attacks on civilians who have tried to escape from areas under their control," said Yolanda Foster. "They must immediately allow those civilians who wish to leave to do so." I can see how they couldn't move 10,000 people who were intent upon being near Parliament. I the messages from the Tamil community in Canada are ones that I can support. And this one too ... Minister Kenney Makes Statement on Yom Hashoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day OTTAWA, ONTARIO -- 04/21/09 -- The Honourable Jason Kenney, Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, issued the following statement on Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day. "The extermination of millions of Jewish people during World War II was a crime against all humankind. In remembering the Holocaust and paying tribute to its victims, we renew our commitment to fight against the evils of racism, discrimination and anti-Semitism. "The Holocaust stands alone in human history for its horror and its inhumanity. It is crucial that we learn from this experience, not only to ensure that such atrocities never take place again, but also to better enable us to build societies based on a respect for human dignity, in which such acts are not possible. "Our government has taken a principled stance in combating Holocaust denial and anti-Semitism. More than a year ago, I announced that Canada would refuse to participate in the racist Durban process because we had serious concerns that the failings of the 2001 World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance in Durban, South Africa, would be repeated at the 2009 Durban Review Conference. In 2001, the Durban Conference degenerated into open and divisive expressions of intolerance and anti-Semitism. Yesterday's speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vindicated Canada's principled decision to lead the world in withdrawing from the conference. As a result of Canada announcing its withdrawal from the Durban Review Conference, Canada's seat will be vacant for the duration of the conference.

It's a process. We all have choices. I'm really proud that young women can exercise all of their choices in Canada today. And this thread is a celebration of the lives and work of our young women in combat. Bless 'em and keep 'em, and if more choose to join them, that's good too. Though I may have serious concerns about our mission in Afghanistan, that's our problem. I never have concerns about our soldiers conducting themselves courageously and honourably, and "without even spilling your tim hornets coffee....".

Thanks SR. Really nice to hear that.

Are you one of those snotty people who has to know how much money someone has to know how to treat them? eeeewwwww!!!!

About half of the Indigenous people in Southern Ontario died in the epidemics of the early to mid 1600's. Iroquoian peoples re-formed through warring on each other, and I believe most Neutrals were adopted by the Five Nations who, due to greater avoidance of Europeans, had lost only about 20% of their people. The Cayuga Nation adopts, so there would be Cayuga people today whose lineage would be 'Neutral' (and Huron/Wendat, and Tudelo, and others). http://hamilton.foundlocally.com/Local/Inf...toryIndians.htm By the time the European explorers and missionaries arrived in the early 1600s, the Iroquoian villages had elected chiefs and were allied within powerful tribal confederacies. The Neutral Indians were the leaders of a group of ten tribes of the Iroquois Nation. Other tribes included the Seneca, Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, Huron, Petun, Erie and the Susquehannock. The French explorers , gave this Indian tribe the name "Neutrals", because of their position and status as peace keepers between the warring Hurons and Iroquois. Unfortunately, inter-tribal warfare was made worse by the intrusion of the Europeans. http://www.nefac.net/anarchiststudyofiroquois#beaverwars In 1634, a plague of smallpox hit the Rotinonshón:ni, halving their population (67) and forcing relocations for the entire five nations as they fled diseased villages. While already engaged in wars with multiple indigenous nations and the French, and with changes to their economy and material technology, it must have seemed an apocalyptic scenario. The Wendat and other nations were similarly affected by epidemic diseases. There were unprecedented calamities for Rotinonshón:ni and Wendat societies, and the cultural tradition of mourning war called for replacement of all the dead through warfare. While there may have been economical and cultural motivations for Rotinonshón:ni participation and prosecution of the Beaver Wars, the result was far from genocide of their opponents--rather, it was the political unification of most northern Iroquois-speaking peoples under the Kaianere'kó:wa. It bears emphasizing that, according to Wallace, "[a]doption was so frequent during the bloody centuries of the beaver wars and the colonial wars that some Iroquois villages were preponderantly composed of formally adopted war captives." (79) Adoption was as much a form of political unification of other Iroquois-speaking peoples, who already shared cultural traits, as it was cultural assimilation. Autonomous villages were common. The Beaver Wars might best be seen as bloody civil war among Iroquois-speaking people in the context of a larger series of devastating tragedies, not a genocidal conflict based on resource acquisition. Increasingly, the Beaver Wars are being referred to as the Iroquois Wars--which seems far more appropriate since the majority of the participants were Iroquois-speakers. The Neutrals ... http://faculty.marianopolis.edu/c.belanger...tralIndians.htm So the answer to your question is 'no'.

And let the children starve too, of course. Ya, that'll help! 1) Go find me some examples of all of these "bone idle" people you seem to know about. 2) You hire them.

Hurrah for people shooting video!! So many times it is catching police doing things they have always done, and then lied about. At least twice during this protest alone, and one person died. Also at Vancouver airport, where a man also died at the hands of police. I'm really glad we now have so many 'eyes on the street'. Accountability of policing is absolutely necessary.

Speculating about people's personal business is out of line.

And what are they again?

So because of the ill will of some Canadians toward the poor and less able, we continue to punish the children (with malnourishment) because of the misfortunes of the parents? http://www.campaign2000.ca/rc/C2000%20Repo...ov%2010th08.pdf 1 in 10 children lives in poverty in Canada, and 1 in 4 Aboriginal children. Assistance and subsidies to raise all Canadians and their children out of poverty would be a reasonable solution, especially since we can do it by simply rearranging our priorities and our funds to put children first.

I can't find the exact reference, but I understand that according to Canada's endorsement of the UN Convention on Rights of the Child, children cannot be taken from their parents for the sole reason of poverty. Rather, it behooves us as a society to ensure that they are provided with sufficient means of subsistence. (But we don't.) Children can legally be taken from the home only in cases of abuse or severe neglect. Foster placements are not easy to find, and are in demand to serve this current clientele. Any other ideas? How about we pay the parents above poverty level? HMMM???

Read your own links sometime ... For several days now people have been inundated with inaccuracies concerning Laibar Singh’s case, which have resulted in the unfortunate perception of Singh as a “law-breaker.” First, Singh was only handed a deportation order for July 8 of this year and took sanctuary on July 7. He has, therefore, never been “illegal” in Canada before taking sanctuary. Everyone in sanctuary has overstayed a deportation order, not just Singh. Second, Singh arrived on a fake document, which he declared to Canadian immigration authorities. This is not illegal as international and Canadian refugee law recognizes the reality that many asylum seekers will be forced to travel on fake documents. http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/annex_e.html#I 15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability. noyfb

So now you are going to make rules about who can have children? Hitler tried to control that. How'd it work out for him? Canada has a history of sterilizing the "feeble-minded", and traditional Indigenous leaders were selectively included in that category. So were epileptics, the mentally ill, and anyone outside the 'norm'. Forced sterilization is illegal now. Got any other 'bright' ideas? The minimum wage category consists largely of women without mates, and likely without child support either. You provide no useful solutions for our reality, just ill will toward those you do not understand. Consider this: Perhaps your arrogance toward the poor is born of failing to respect and appreciate your own good fortune, imo. Not everyone is as able as you.

Source? How? Canada has core values. It's called the Constitution: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/index.html What bull-oney! Freedom of choice, anyone? Canadian core values anyone? (Apparently not DoP!)

QUOTE The reason is that as a percentage of our population, 240,000-265,000 newcomers represent less than one per cent of our national population Actually Argus ... Canada has been importing immigrants since 1532, and we make up 96% of the population, the rest being Indigenous Peoples.

Get over it. :angry: If a woman chooses to be a soldier, respect it. Army guy, you da bomb!

They're cops. That's their job. They have to suck it up. Cops don't beat people simply because they are verbally provoked ... do they?