Moonbox

Of course he says that. He wants more money. The question is why was it allowed to be squandered in the first place? The money was a handout and they still managed to waste it. Now the question is why should regular taxpayers like myself pay for them to have a race-based university that they can't even manage properly? You don't get three chances when you screw with charity money. Once you've blown it you've really blown it.

That's my sentiment. There's no point in throwing money away that has a pretty solid track record of being squandered.

That's exactly right.

First off, Israel is not the Jewish People. There are as many Jews outside of Israel as there are inside. Second, you have a problem with simple logic, Mr. Canada, that I don't think any of us can help you with. Calling for the destruction of Israel can stem from many reasons. It could be anti-semitism, or it could be that a lot of people that used to live there and got ousted are still pretty upset about it. Nobody compared Israel to Nazi Germany. You just keeping making yourself look dumber and dumber. Yes there are holocaust deniers amongst Muslims. There are also Holocaust deniers amongst Christians and Chinese and Hindus as well. Anyone with a decent education, however, doesn't deny it. Most anti-Israeli sentiment in the West these days stems not from the fact that they are Jewish, but rather from the harsh measures they take to protect themselves. Israeli responses to outside and inside threats are often heavy-handed with loads of collateral damage. Personally, I support their right to exist and protect themselves but sometimes I question whether or not even they're interested in peace. The fact that they're constantly expanding settlements I find to be pretty belligerent, but then maybe they feel there's no chance for peace anyways so they might as well expand?

I'm happy if they don't raise taxes, particularly middle-income earners.

You posted that it's anti-semitic to criticize Israel because they have the Star of David on their flag. That's false and your logic is terrible to boot. We're trying to show you that your way of thinking doesn't make sense and if you took the time to think them through (we hope) you'd realize it. Your thought process is a dog's breakfast and it's not worth our time to pick it apart bit by bit and explain it to you, mostly because you're not prepared to listen. There's a reason why you get attacked personally. It's not because we're mean people. It's because your posts are ignorant and we've long given up trying to reason with you. A normal person would probably get the hint when most of their posts get laughed off the forum, but you seem to be a special case. The worst part is that sometimes you make relevant points, or are trying to. Even when you're on the same side of an argument as me, however, you do more harm than good to the position I'm trying to take because the majority of what you say is just diarhea.

Well I look forward to it

It's a symbol the Germans had been using for centuries and they weren't oblivious to the religious undertones it implied. I knew from the start I shouldn't have brought up Nazis just because it derails what I was trying to say. Flag =/ Race If I really need to simplify it I can just say it doesn't make you a Christian hater if you criticize Switzerland just because their flag is a cross. That's what Mr. Canada was trying to say about Israel. If you criticize Israel it means you hate Jews because their flag is the Star of David.

The Teutonic Knights were a catholic religious fighting order...who also happened to have waged wars against pagans in order to bring Christianity to still pagan lands like Lithuania. The Maltese cross, the Teutonic Cross, the Cross of the Templars/Knights of Santiago were all based on the CROSS because they were Christian Orders. That's what the cross meant at the time. Once again, however, my point was that it's idiotic to say criticism of Israel is anti-semitic just because they have the star of David on their flag. It similarily isn't hateful to Christians to criticize Nazi Germany just because they had a cross on a lot of their crap, nor is it hateful to Islam to criticize Sailor Moon for using the Crescent Moon in their imagery. He was making a really dumb point.

Fair enough, but the germans still painted Crosses on all their weapons and vehicles and used it as their military emblem. My points stands, but thanks for the correction.

I think it's more like they feel it's a popular position to take with their supporting demographic. It's the whole, "Down with Israel! Down with Free Trade! Down with Corporations!" sort of mentality...

They would have tried to. The simple reality of it was that they stood no chance. They stood no chance against European technology, European commerce, European military doctrine or European disease. You need only look at what happened to the Inca and Aztecs to get an idea of what the inevitable conclusion to hostilities with England or France would have been.

Nope I was born here. My ancestors conquered this land. I just grew up here. So did my parents. I'm not an immigrant.

Bad analogy. The Republican Party doesn't have as it's main platform the destruction of an entire nation.

What about Section 1 of the Charter? I posted that. I also posted what the SCoC decided needed to be proven to recognize aboriginal Title. Those are both FACTS which you ignored in favor of ranting and carrying on... Shwa you're a joke. Keep it up with the lame insults. Maybe eventually you'll break me down and hurt my feelings

The swastika in Germany was a Christian cross. That was their flag. Aside from that, German Panzers and Luftwaffe fighters/bombers all had just plain normal crosses painted on them. Criticizing Nazi Germany means you hate Christians right? This is how dumb most of your points are.

You haven't posted a single point/fact in this entire thread...clown.

It's pretty standard no matter what we're talking about. I'm here for the discussion. Some posters just stonewall and troll for the sake of it and that's probably why First Nations threads end up the way they do. Here we have CR.

Welcome to a political internet forum. Thanks for posting anyways. That was really helpful.

Actually it was one of the best books I've ever read. It was such a surreal and weird book and it's not something I would normally read, but it was the most open minded piece of writing I've ever touched. The way the book touched on all the different religions and broke them down was enlightening. Every world leader SHOULD read it. I'm not a huge Obama fan but if he actually read that and came to those conclusions (rather than have them written for him) then I'm impressed. I'm not surprised Harper hasn't read it. It's a little too 'spiritual' for his tastes and the way it compares Hinduism, Islam and Christianity (and concludes they are all basically the same thing) would probably make his Bible-thumping party go crazy.

The more you post man the dumber you look. You can be critical of Israel and not be anti-Semitic at the same time. I have many problems with the State of Israel, but I believe in their right to exist and protect themselves and I think their neighbors make it pretty difficult to exist peacefully. I also grew up with Jews and think they're great. Idiotic. I hate to invoke Godwin's law already but that's just like saying if you're critical of Nazi Germany then you hate Christians. Their symbol was a Cross. It's too bad you say so much stupid **it amidst your posts because at least you have a point here. That is pretty lame if it's true. Stick to the facts and stop making up so much garbage and maybe everyone will stop making fun of you.

Brilliant.

I don't know if debating with them is possible. I feel more like I'm trying to reason with a couple of poo-flinging monkeys.

Ah...we're back to this again are we? I provided numerous facts. I refuted your lousy SCoC cases, I cited Section 1 of the Charter, I explained what qualified as Aboriginal Title and asked you to comment on them, and you've ignored everything I've said and done nothing but repeat yourself over and over again. Your whole argument (ALL of it) hinges on your belief that aboriginal rights are above and beyond Section 1 of the Charter. I've asked you to provide references of where and when any Canadian judge has ever explicitly asserted this. If this is going to be your entire argument then back it up. Don't ask me for facts again until you can do this.

You really don't get it. The "Rights" of Canadians are also 'recognized' in the Charter. If you want to argue 'fact' then find me a reference where ANY judge in Canada has explicitly stated that aboriginals don't fall under Section 1 of the Charter. How you want the Charter to be interpreted is unfortunately not reality. I'll take a lesson from the newsletter "Arguments for Babies" that you subscribe to and tell you: If you can't prove that "fact" then all of your arguments are worthless. Oh, and by the way, squawking repetition doesn't count as proof.