Moonbox

Makes me want to scream...yet nobody seems to care :angry:

It is very obvious you have goals. You aren't here to 'discuss' Canadian politics. You're here to tell us how bad our democratic system is and how good things are in China. That's all you've done. I grew up with, went to school with and dated people born in China or who whose parents were born there. My opinions of the Chinese government are in large part based on their experiences as they presented them to me. Even they know the Chinese government lies to them.

My convince ability at least not involve threat of bullet to back of head. Better than Communist China government.

I think you need to understand what makes a criminal a criminal. They're society's failures. If pot were legalized you'd actually have successful and intelligent people growing large scale and efficient crops with machinery, distribution chains etc. The relatively small scale operations of the gangs etc would quickly be pushed out of business through simple economies of scale. This would lead them back to a criminal life and on to the next illicit activity/substance. Again, I'm not really against it being legal, but the argument that it would reduce crime is just silly. It holds no water.

Nice

Haha he can think that. Personally I don't think anybody reads his posts other than to make fun of him though.

It's not really intended to be friendly. He's not discussing in good faith with us so instead I'll poke fun at him and see how much time he wastes trying to refute my completely idiotic posts. I find it incredibly amusing but that is just a matter of taste. You have me on a technicality . I will normally respond to someone who quotes me, even though most of the time I gloss over what they write - not really much offense meant there. I think we typically just don't see things the same way. That's irony, or poor logic on my part, but definitions have nothing to do with it

Among other things yes. Mostly I mock how he's trying to convince us how terrible things are here and how the Chinese frollick in the streets everyday with bunnies and gum drops. You and he are both missing the irony in my mockery I think. Unsurprising.... As for tuition refunds, ironically enough you may need to look up the word definition in the dictionary. Regardless, I'm not here to mock or flame you. You at least seem to be genuinely interested in Canadian politics, which is more than I can say about chinaman.

I wouldn't mock him if it was just his poor grasp of English. I mock him because I'm almost convinced that he's employed by the Chinese government or something to play the propaganda game overseas. He's not here to discuss Canadian politics. He doesn't seem to know anything about them. All he does is post news clips about how evil Canadian society is. Oh, and for the record, most of your posts in general are tiresome, but I don't complain. I just don't read them

Sorry, let me clarify. I smoked pot in highschool & university. It didn't have any long term impact on me. It is much like alchohol. Alchohol is actually probably worse. The difference, in my mind at least, however, is that you can go to work or school stoned and a lot of the time people would never even notice. That's not to say you're still fully functional, but rather that you're not NOTICEABLY impaired. The other phenomenon that I see as a key difference is how chronic pot can be for a lot of people. Anyone who drinks all day is going to be f'd all day and people will see it and smell it on them. You could be high for the better part of the day every day and still function okay. Does this make any sense? My experience is that pot is just a lot more insidious. Like I said before though, just legalize it already. I don't really care either way. Holland seems to be doing alright. The world didn't collapse around it.

Haha no! Because bullet goes in through BACK of head! Never see coming no! Crazy schizo man running away from police. Too bad so sad but better than he hurt someone. In red China, no allowed Polish men to live there.

I don't really have anything against pot being legalized. People who want to smoke it do regardless and it is barely policed (aside from large operations). The only difference between it and booze or tabaccy is that it makes you stupid even in small doses and it's harder to tell when someone is high. Obvious problems arise from that but whatever.

I think we have legitimate business there if it can save millions of lives, but I'll agree that we probably shouldn't bother.

Fake Chinanews made by red Chinamen. If were real that girl would bullet in head and dead.

Civil war does that. Culturally and politically, Congo is completely different from Afghanistan, and likely doesn't have Iran etc funding guerrilas nor does it have the same sort of rabid fanaticism. It's easier to deal with warlords than clerics.

Congo is not Afghanistan. It's a mess, but it's actually probably safer.

I'm so happy you said that last part Smallc. Cynicism is a very good quality to have at the polls.

This is a terrible poll. As has already been mentioned, it's quality that counts. I'd support a million immigrants a year if they were going to be productive and fit in with society. I support zero immigration if they're going to be illiterate refugees from butthole countries.

The problem is they're not making a good living for themselves. They're being tossed money to produce crops we don't need for more expensive and inefficient fuel with no environmental benefits. It's one of the most expensive and ass backwards set of subsidies we've ever seen in Canada.

In Red China, Chinaman not allowed wag finger. He get firing squad. Family billed for bullet.

Not true. The pagan Romans conquered it. They converted to Christianity on their own. Don't imagine. They would have burned most of them. The Medieval Catholic Church was one of the blindest and most vicious institutions the world has ever seen. The Islamic world, on the other hand, was a bastion of science, tolerance and enlightenment. Somewhere along the way (long before European colonialism and long after the Crusades) it decided to follow the way of European Catholics and turn stupid.

This is one issue I really have against the Conservatives. Biofuels and renewable fuels right now are just a giant waste of money and a pander to rural votes. It's inefficient, expensive and provides no noticeable environmental benefits. All it does is raise both food and gas prices and make farmers more wealthy at the expense of everyone else.

Fair enough, but serial killers and pedos I would contend are not so much an institutional failure in our society as they simply very visible and disgusting exceptions. We have lots of problems in our system. That doesn't mean we can't comment on the problems with other systems. The thread itself was set up to be a discussion on how a good number of nutjob fanatics wet their pants when anyone does anything they feel is hostile to their religion. Bringing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Catholic Church and whatnot into the discussion was a red herring. It's not really propaganda anymore when the nastiness that's talked about is enforced and confirmed by the other side. The difference between the fundamentalist Islamic world, and the western world, is that people flee to the west to tell their stories, while nobody in the west flees to the Islamic world. We hear the stories first hand here. I have two Persian friends (both women actually) who can readily confirm it. I know that's just hearsay on the forums, but we have enough people of different backgrounds to get an idea of how ugly things are over there.

You contradict yourself with your own point. Most would agree the treatment of women in some of these cultures is pretty ass backwards. Your defence for it is to bring up completely different problems we have in our own culture. Bringing up paedofelia in the Church system as a defence for barbaric treatment of women elsewhere is a giant red herring. No culture is perfect, but one that murders women for learning to read is not worthy of any respect.

No, you're missing the point entirely. Serial killers in the Western world are universally viewed as villains and violent nuts. They're put away and never see the outside of a jail again. Sure, some serial killers get away with it. Unfortunately you can't catch them all. The fundamental, and very important difference, is that those violent killers are not accepted in our society and we remove them, or at least try to. Woman are murdered regularly in many Arab cultures for doing things like trying to read or showing their legs. Their murderers are celebrated as men of honour and faith. Comparing the two is absolutely brainless.