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2 hours ago, CouchPotato said:
But they were all in favor of the carbon tax until the last minute. So it calls into question how committed they are to actually getting rid of the tax.
True enough, and Carney's been pro taxing carbon for a long time.
Even so, is Carney a "thief" for ditching an unpopular Liberal policy, and not giving Poilievre the easy target he'd prefer?
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1 hour ago, Nationalist said:
Was it the carney's idea? No. It was Poilievre's idea and platform.
The carbon tax was unpopular. The only "idea' Poilievre had was to campaign against it, and it was good fodder for him. Now that Trudeau is gone and Carney has walked away from the carbon tax, PP is just punching at air, and that's what you're probably more upset about than anything.
Now he has to come up with something better than a low-brow 3-word slogan.
To say it's "stealing" to abandon bad policy is really weird logic.
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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:
I said "I heard a rumour", which leaves the reader with the full knowledge that what I'm about to say is still just at the hearsay level.
I heard a rumour that Pierre Poilievre isn't actually a biological male, and that he goes to furry conventions. It might not be true, but we should definitely talk about that too. 🤡
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6 hours ago, Nationalist said:
So he's a thief.
So unless he keeps doing the thing you think is dumb, he's stealing? 🤔
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On 3/30/2025 at 5:30 PM, eyeball said:
I don't know why the other parties don't do more to goad his supporters.
Napoleon said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake".
Up until a couple days ago, PP was still spending millions on pamphlets and advertisements squawking juvenile three-word slogans in a political environment deeply and negatively focused against the master of juvenile three-word slogans.
This sort of self-inflicted injury is a gift to his opponents, and they're wise to just step back and let him hurt himself as long as it lasts.
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5 hours ago, TreeBeard said:
I put that duh-head on ignore.
I would too, if not for the fact that he posts 40+ times a day and is at all times derailing at least a half a dozen threads with his belligerent stupidity. 🙃
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Always funning seeing people share "news" off Twatter.
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17 hours ago, CdnFox said:
So yes, that is entirely believable. You obsessed like that over me all the time, in fact it's far from the worst we've ever seen
It's a pretty sad commentary on your life that you imagine people on an internet forum "obsessing" over you when they don't respond right away. 🥴
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4 hours ago, CdnFox said:
LOL quick? It took you Days
So your assumption is that I sat at my computer for "days" finding the quote you said that didn't exist, rather than that like most functioning adults, I don't spend my whole day arguing with people on the internet?
Nobody does a better job making you look like a deadbeat than you yourself do here. WELL DONE! 🤣
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19 hours ago, CdnFox said:
No you didn't. Go dig up that quote.
Here you go muppet, as requested:
Once again, a quick little search is all it takes to make a clown out of you.
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3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:
By contrast, Poilievre and Byrne seem to have generated a fair bit of resentment in the party with their open contempt for the opinions of others and it’s coming home to roost now.
I said it when he took control of the Conservatives, but Poilievre was pretty much the only guy who could lose the next election for the Conservatives. If they win the election, it'll be in spite of him and because of the Liberals' shitty record. If the Liberals win, it'll because of Carney, and in spite of the Liberal's shitty record. Weird contrast.
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15 minutes ago, blackbird said:
I quoted to you what Carney said.
“It’s time to build more cars right here at home with an All-In-Canada auto manufacturing network.” — Mark Carney, X, March 26
In effect he is not supporting free trade, just like Trump. If you refuse to accept it, you have a problem.
Yeah, you quoted it, and you those are some pretty funny mental gymnastics you're doing to take that, and turn it into what you say it means. 🙃
As I already mentioned, if he was against free trade, why would he be promoting expanding it with Europe? That's a question you won't answer, because it doesn't fit in with your worldview.
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1 hour ago, Army Guy said:
All those words and you really said nothing that means anything...nothing more than trolling, in order to get a response your looking for....which is your sole purpose here...you don't debate because your a troll....
You keep quoting me and dragging me into these "debates", and then you keep whining and crying when you don't like where it goes. Pretty goofy shit. 🤡
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2 hours ago, blackbird said:
Did you read the article? I quoted Carney's comments.
Yes, I'll refer you to eyeball's response:
2 hours ago, eyeball said:Carney did not say 'I'm opposed to free trade'. You are hallucinating.
What you're saying is demonstrably not true.
2 hours ago, blackbird said:Carney basically agrees with Trump in opposing free trade. It not complicated. Carney said it on X a couple days ago.
Carney's opposed to the chaos that Trump's tariff circus causes, and the fact that he's made it clear we can't trust the USA to uphold the deals they make. If he was opposed to free trade, why has he been talking about expanding it in Europe? When you can answer that question, maybe we can take what you're saying seriously.
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6 minutes ago, blackbird said:
Yes, but what about Mark Carney's comments which seem to agree with Trump?
What comments are those, exactly?
The fact that the US is proving itself (and not just to Canada) to be a fickle, unreliable partner is wrong somehow? Trump has ripped up the trade deal that he pushed for in the first place. Why would Canada want to continue relying on that sort of nonsense for its economic well-being?
7 minutes ago, blackbird said:Carney is sounding like he agrees with Trump's protectionism.
He sounds like he's reacting to Trump's retarded protectionism. "Like, come on man, knock it off" is the contrast you want to see? Come on...
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19 minutes ago, User said:
I don't have to pretend anything. You are trying to have a different argument now over how much of a threat something is after you already tried to claim no leverage whatsoever.
What's the relevant point here? Whether Trump has actually applied any meaningful pressure, or my wording of my phrase?
Since even you know that these sanction threats amount to little, the only thing you have left is to obfuscate and play your usual word games.
29 minutes ago, User said:See, now you are just playing dishonest games. My argument is that your absurd assertion was wrong.
Which one is that? That this wasn't a massive propaganda win for Putin, handed on a platter by Trump? OOookay. 🤡
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10 minutes ago, User said:
Well... you are trying to have it both ways here. You want to play the extremes saying Trump is not doing anything towards Russia:
"While no leverage or pressure was applied to Russia whatsoever. "
But then when I point out what he is doing then you want to downplay it.It's not downplaying if the threat is basically meaningless. Please keep pretending that more American sanctions are really going to dial up the pressure on Russia though. That's totally credible. 🙃
10 minutes ago, User said:"he keeps legitimizing"
Now, back to whack-a-mole you can't back that up so instead of admitting that you just go back to the original comment we have already discussed.Yes, whack-a-mole indeed. Even the most feeble deflection you can manage counts as a big victory in your little cult-brain. Let's pretend you had a point then:
Your argument is that because Trump hasn't handed any further massive propaganda wins to Putin, that means...what, exactly? Beyond your usual word games, what was your point here?
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23 hours ago, User said:
There can always be more done.
Yeah, just like Putin can keep threatening to "escalate" against Ukraine. The threats hit a point of diminishing returns at a certain point, both practically and rhetorically.
23 hours ago, User said:I have not ran away from that, I have responded to that point already. You say he keeps legitimizing Putin's propaganda... OK, when was the last time?
He legitimized it, publicly and unequivocally. That's toothpaste you can't put back in the tube - permanent damage to Ukraine's position and a permanent gift to Putin's propaganda.
"He said a stupid thing" is a pretty feeble response, all things considered. Pretty massive "oopsy" if that's all it was. 🙃
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57 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
Sooooo you just proved you lied. I never said someone who has a doctorate isn't an economist. I said it's a stretch to call them an economist if they never used their degree, and then i said if someone works for a bank, they're a banker and that carney never worked as an economist. All of which is true.
Nope, because Mark Carney has an economics doctorate from a prestigious economics program, and you're trying to tell us he's not an economist somehow, or that he's never used his degree?
Either statement you're making is categorically retarded, especially considering monetary policy itself is an important part of macroeconomics....something they teach in...economics. 🤡👌
Keep digging your heel in on this one though. You're only making yourself look like more of a loser.
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1 hour ago, Army Guy said:
Like i said you have nothing of any value to say, ...but go ahead beat your chest act like your someone viewing the peasants from your tower of superiority
...and yet, I'm the only one still debating the other person's points, while you've descended into your usual sulking and ad-hominem.
1 hour ago, Army Guy said:it is who you are, your here to troll nothing more....Your contributions consist of pages upon pages of worthless chirping , complaining, whining, and just being a d!ckhead.... we really could do with less of you to be honest...🖕
For someone who could do with less of me, wtf do you keep quoting me and dragging me into debates with you? There are two easy options here. You could either just not quote me and not engage, or you could put me on ignore. I'd be more than fine with not hearing from you. 🙃
Instead, you persist in this pathetic routine of picking fights, subsequently crying and b*tching about them as if you didn't dive in head-first, and then coming back for more and repeating it over and over again. What sort of weak babyshit is this?
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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:
So what you're saying is you're very comfortable making up something I never said and then arguing against that because you can't cope with the truth. Fair enough I understand.
Here's a list of your quotes, in the part of this thread where you spent a whole page arguing how Carney wasn't an economist:
"Banker yes, economist no."
"It means you have a Doctorate. Which means you've been educated on the subject. But unless you've actually done it it's a bit of a stretch to say you're an economist."
"Carney worked for a bank, and never as an economist. I would call him a banker because that's what he did, never as an economist"
If I said anything as stupid as you did here, I'd want to pretend I didn't as well, but it's easy to prove you're lying, as you normally do.
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3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
As usual, when confronted with facts you can't address you become belligerent.
Coming from the guy saying the economics doctorate isn't an economist, I'm pretty comfortable where I land in comparison to you on what the word "facts" means.
Thanks for the laugh about belligerence though. Your projection is showing again. How many internet fights are you getting yourself into today? 🤡
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On 3/25/2025 at 3:11 PM, Army Guy said:
Sure, you always go on the attack when you have nothing of value to say..which is most of the time...
If you want to mouth off and rant your deeply uninformed opinions here, they're going to get challenged. If they're particularly dumb, they're going to get mocked. You can be a big boy and calmly reason out and defend those opinions, or your can cry like a little girl about the fight you keep running straight into swinging.
On 3/25/2025 at 3:11 PM, Army Guy said:Well i guess the british people have no idea what they are doing, i mean she had risen to the office of PM, she must have something going for her,
If Liz Truss falling into the PM's chair without being elected to it and lasting 49 days before being laughed out of office counts for something, what does that say about Trudeau getting elected 3 times and lasting ~10 years?
What does that say about Carney, who was recruited as the first non-brit in 300 years to run the Bank of England?
You do know that logic works both ways, right? FFS.
On 3/25/2025 at 3:11 PM, Army Guy said:you can brush off her opinion, i did however give you another two on top of hers...and you contributed jack sh!t
You seem to be under the goofy illusion that dredging the interweb for people saying what you want to hear somehow forms your argument for you. The fact that you quoted Liz Truss with a straight face proves that you didn't do anything but Google "Carneyman bad" and then thoughtlessly drop the links into this thread.
Thanks for your "contribution". 👌
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Liberal Party Takes Lead in Polls
in Federal Politics in Canada
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It speaks to his recognizing it was an unpopular policy, and nothing else. You're basically trying to argue that not doing the stupid thing that everyone knows is stupid is plagiarizing, because someone else called it stupid already. 🥴