Moonbox
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15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
Nope
The judge said they did some. They said that they didn't do enough as a organization to qualify for the grant but they did say they did so. Go take a look at the reading
Ten articles out of the ~420+ they posted. TEN. That's 2% of their content.
The judge confirmed they don't qualify as a journalism organization.
17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:We both know you're wrong.
...and we both know what it means when you need to start telling everyone you're winning. 🤡
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9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
So they're journalists. Working for a news organization that produces original news content related in this case to politics.
Lol nope! That's the part the federal judge confirmed they don't actually do. When asked to submit a 3-week period of their content for review, only 10 out of 400+ "articles" they published had anything even resembling original news content.
Ranting uselessly about stuff and spreading 10-IQ misinformation doesn't count as news. If it did, you'd be the most prolific "journalist" in the country! 🤣
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6 hours ago, Barquentine said:
Remember this? "Maybe your mom will make you some mac'n'cheese and you can get out of the basement for a few minutes."? (Back in Feb.)
You're not the first, or even the 50th person who's said something like this to him on this forum.
How do you debate someone who literally has no life? 🥴
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51 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:
The important thing is to keep the bubble intact, so BBC, CBC, the European Broadcasting Union, AP, Reuters, the NYTimes, WashPo, Google, YouTube, Twitter, and FB all got together to keep their false narratives straight, such as the BSL4 story and the laptop story.
Yeah, exactly. They're all in it together. BBC, CBC, Europe's Broadcasting Union, AP, Reuters, the NY Times, Washpo, Google, Youtube, Twitter, FB, FBI, Illuminati, the Free Masons, the Mind Control Vampires from Zeta Reticuli...
They're all in it together to fool us.
🤡🤡🤡
2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:The important thing is to keep the bubble intact, so that America's #1 news source does what it was designed to do: keep the Republicans in power.
The bubble is comfy. The bubble is safe. 🫂
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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:
You mean a journalist 🙄
No, here's the whole quote:
For the purpose of accreditation, a "media organization" is an organization that either produces original news content related to coverage of Canadian or international political news, or covers political, social and policy issues.
Bolded is journalism. Second part is wide open: advocacy groups, think-tanks etc.
As already mentioned, a federal judge just ruled they don't count as a journalism organization, because they're not actually producing any original news content. They're just a bunch of loud shrills reposting content from elsewhere and ranting about made-up shit and other nonsense.
Of course you're a fan. 🙃
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2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:
Gigantic national debt . . . nothing to show for it.
Oh well, just pass it off to the grandchildren and their children.
What color is the sky in the Liberal la-la land?
All true, the problem that Poilievre has is that he can't convince most Canadians that he's the solution. The cure has to be better than the disease. Talking about 15% income tax cuts while ragging about the deficit is not confidence-inspiring.
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1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:
They REGISTERED as an advocacy group so that they could run election ads!
That's the crazy thing here. They don't even try to hide that they're nothing but political activists, but the apes are so desperate for the noises they want to hear that they'll convince themselves this is a credible news source anyway.
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23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:
@Moonbox here's an example of one of their seasoned journalists ... keean bexte... He's known for having sold flags online, the far-right nationalist type...
Cute lad....
That tracks. I'm somewhat sympathetic to the folks who complain about left-leaning bias in a lot of news. When Rebel is the alternative they present, my faith in humanity dies a bit.
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6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
They did. That is why they overruled the decision to bar them. From the exact venue specifically that we're talking about now. Twice
No, it's not. There's no requirement to be a journalist to attend. All you have to do is be an organization that:
covers political, social and policy issues.
https://www.debates-debats.ca/en/news/2025/opens-media-accreditation/
As mentioned, not only has Rebel's status as a journalism organization been denied, that ruling has been confirmed on appeal recently by a federal court judge. They do almost literally zero journalism, which again is likely why they registered as a political advocacy group.
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1 hour ago, CouchPotato said:
It's not that it is the news I want to hear. It's that they only cover stories and issues that the left deems important.
These are the same complaints.
1 hour ago, CouchPotato said:Irrelevant to the matter at hand.
No, it is the matter at hand. It's Rebel Media being Rebel Media - doing exactly what they always do. It's a tired routine and not even the least bit noteworthy outside of the folks already drinking their Kool-Aid.
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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:
So this specific thing has specifically been tried in court twice. The courts have said they are journalists and they cannot be denied access given to other journalists.
No, they have no said that.
They overruled the debate commission's decision to bar them from attendance, and for numerous reasons.
Not only has a federal judge since ruled that Rebel doesn't qualify as a news journalism organization, Rebel themselves apparently don't either, registering for this years debate as a political advocacy group.
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24 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:
If they won't cover stories important to conservatives, then they shouldn't have to be funded by them. End of.
Again, that's not how it works. Journalists report the actual news, not the news that you want to hear.
24 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:But the issue here is not that the CBC does not ask those questions. It's that someone else did. They were allowed to be there. And CBC and other mainstream lost their minds. They even resorted to pretending that they were somehow threatened by their presence. Too bad.
Because they weren't even really asking questions. They were peddling grievances and making accusations disguised as questions. Rebel "News" is in the business of crying foul about confrontations they themselves start. How many videos have we seen from these clowns of them jamming mics in people's faces and yelling asshat questions at them, and then crying foul when someone shoves the mic away or pushes them aside? A LOT.
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11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
The courts have said their journalists. You think that they are not journalists because you don't like them but that is not what determines the definition of a journalist.
Where did the courts say that? A federal court literally ruled they were not back in September, when Rebel appealed being denied federal subsidies and the decision was upheld on the basis that they do almost literally zero actual journalism. 🙃
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14 hours ago, CouchPotato said:
Sure it is. The CBC, if you can call it news, wants our tax dollars. There are certain questions people want asked.
Too bad? It's not up to you to decide which questions they ask or what angles they investigate. They've no obligation to ask everyone's questions, or proportionally representative ones, especially if those questions are stupid.
14 hours ago, CouchPotato said:CBC has an obvious bias. Maybe you don't see it. That's fine. If you enjoy it, fund it yourself. If CBC is so great, it ought to be able to stand on it's own two feet.
Believe it or not, I actually agree it's biased, and I also agree that if it wants taxpayer funds that it needs to be less politicized. I wouldn't shed many tears if it was defunded.
Where we probably don't agree, however, is in the goofy MSM conspiracy theories. It's all fine and good to not trust a news group, and you should have a healthy degree of skepticism about all of them. What's problematic, however, is when you don't trust any of it, from anywhere, unless it's telling you exactly what you want to hear. Those are the donkeys following Rebel Media.
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3 hours ago, CouchPotato said:
Everyone points out that everyone is forced to pay for media which doesn't ask those questions. We all are forced to pay for media that does not represent all of us.
Who's everyone?
The news isn't there to "represent you", and Rebel Media is not news and isn't interested in actually informing anyone. Don't take my word for that either. That was determined by a federal judge last September when Rebel's plea for public funding was denied (again) on the grounds that almost nothing they do qualifies as real journalism.
The overwhelming majority of Rebel's content was found to not only to have no factual basis or research behind it, but what little that did was being pulled and curated/rewritten by other sources.
Boohoo, Rebel doesn't get federal funding to make stuff up and repost what other people have written. Boohoo, Rebel doesn't get to seek out and stir up confrontations to subsequently cry about. 🙄
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I went three times yesterday. First two times the wait was an hour (polling station was only a block away so I left). I came back 10 minutes before the doors closed, and just breezed through.
Usually I would say a high turn out benefits the Liberals, since the Conservative vote is usually more motivated and better mobilized. Generally the polls error on the side of the Conservatives as well, and it's usually because so many young folk didn't bother actually getting out, and they were typically more liberal.
This time? Who knows. Young men at least are polling more Conservative than they have been for a long time.
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In what world is this:
Read the room. Does sharing policies and rhetoric style with Trump, as Canadians unify against who he is, what he's doing and what he stands for, seem like good strategy to you??
the same thing as:
So... the Conservatives shouldn't worry themselves over budget deficits or try to protect our borders or lower immigration or fight against Chinese influence or want lower taxes and smaller government because Orange man feels the same way?
?????
14 hours ago, I am Groot said:I don't think you know what a red tory is and I don't think you know what a strawman is either. I pointed out some of the aspects of 'woke' that you suggest red Tories would be angry that the Conservatives are opposed to.
I'm not sure you even know what planet a red tory comes from. As far as strawman goes, you have a pretty good example right there. The idea that conservatives shouldn't worry about all of those things is something you just made up. 🙃
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On 4/12/2025 at 5:21 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:
This does not sound like the action of an ally:
Nope, and Trump was out there again recently repeating that Ukraine started the war!
He's showing his true colors, as expected.
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21 hours ago, I am Groot said:
That would be you.
Then surely you can show that quote, right?
Of course you can't.21 hours ago, I am Groot said:You think 'red tories' support DEI hiring and promotion? You think they welcome disorder in the streets, zombie addicts shuffling around, vandalizing things, attacking people, defecating on the sidewalk, shooting up in doorways while the police and courts go hands off? You think they embrace mandatory antiracism courses? That they approve of the whole trans agenda, including with children? You think they're delighted with ever higher immigration without screening newcomers, and without trying to integrate them?
I would say that this sort of strawman and hyperbolic ranting is exactly what's turning red tories away. 🙃
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1 hour ago, CouchPotato said:
Exactly what he is doing. He is promoting the right ideas.
Yeah it seems to be going terrific...
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In order to qualify for the only two federal debates, a party needs to meet two of three criteria: it must be running candidates in at least 90% of Canada’s 343 ridings 28 days before the 28 April general election, poll above 4% and have a sitting member of parliament.
They did not qualify, so they do not debate. This isn't a new rule.
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1 hour ago, I am Groot said:
So... the Conservatives shouldn't worry themselves over budget deficits or try to protect our borders or lower immigration or fight against Chinese influence or want lower taxes and smaller government because Orange man feels the same way?
Who said anything like that? 🙄
The point is that anything good he might be saying about the above is getting no traction because he's packaging it in low-brow Trump-style rhetoric. It serves no purpose other than riling up the base, but worse than that, it turns off the Red Tories that Poilievre needs to break out of rural and western Canada purgatory. As soon as he starts going off about "radical woke ideology", these folks stop taking him seriously and tune him out.
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36 minutes ago, I am Groot said:
And the strange and ridiculous belief that because the Conservatives share some policies that the Trumpers do they would immediately bow, kiss Trump's feet, and hand over Canada with a smile on their faces has taken control among the Left.
Read the room. Does sharing policies and rhetoric style with Trump, as Canadians unify against who he is, what he's doing and what he stands for, seem like good strategy to you??
48 minutes ago, I am Groot said:It doesn't matter how soft spoken a conservative leader is or how mild his policies are. The Left loathes conservatives.
In your mind, nearly 2/3 of the electorate "loathe" the conservatives for no other reason than because they are "conservatives"?. It has nothing to do with their policies, their rhetoric, and how much energy they spend promoting the priorities of the dumbest parts of their base?
I mean, if you know most of the electorate doesn't like what you're doing, why do you keep running it back down the middle?
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FEDERAL DEBATE SCANDAL
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Posted · Edited by Moonbox
No, the judge literally disagreed they were journalists, citing that almost nothing they produce is original news content.
It was an emphatic rebuke of who Rebel Media is and what they do, with the federal court judge summarizing that the large majority of what they publish has no basis in facts and that what little that does is almost all coming from other organizations and being reposted.
For you to sit there and point at the fact that 2% of what they post is actual original news content is proof of their journalism chops is peak comedy. You are what you do, and if 98% of your time is spent doing things other than journalism, calling yourself a journalist is retarded, but very on-brand for you. 🤣👌