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The Canada you are in today came into existence in 1867. You have zero right to anything prior to this date. The history is not yours. Canada existed from 1604 to 1759 as part of nouvelle france. So you think its ok to impose and insult Quebec with history that is not yours but between France, Britain, and Quebec. Modern Canada is out of this equation So you people should just eff off and get your own history and identity and quit trying to jack Quebec's history.

Really? So you are denying Historical fact. Whether you believe any God's exist or not is irrelevant. You are so smart I am floored by the wisdom you impart on this thread. Do keep it coming. Like your pal Canadien you are just another lying revisionist who wants to propogate their spin. It's ok I know enough about religion that your days of existing are numbered so enjoy your Canadian heaven while you are in it. The biggest Joke Is Nouvelle France was Made up of Acadia, Canada, and Louisana. Those of Acadia were Acadians. http://www.acadianmuseum.com/apology.html Those of Acadia, were Acadians. those of Louisiana were cajuns Those of Canada prior to the loss on the plains of Abraham were "Canadians" http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?amme...@lit(gw010118)) If I follow the logic of you people on this threads: Germany should reenact the Gasing and concentration camps of the Jews: The South in the United States should reenact the Black Slavery and the Plantations. History should just plain out be celebrated in all its colors. Why not its history after all? Gee I wonder if the Americans are now going to start calling themselves Iraqi as they are in control of Iraq. You people are just demented losers. You have no alphabet, you have no history, and Your Jesus is a fraud. What are you people going to do?? Enjoy your heaven of Canada, the noose of death is slowly tightening its grip day by day and then into the furnace of fire you will all go. Good Luck on passing your lies onto those who will live after you. Just like you, your lies will follow you into the furnace and the world of tommorrow is going to forget you ever existed.

So you mix around letters of an alphabet that is not even an english alphabet and that somehow makes it an english word afterward? What a joke.

Now tell my why you, this forum, and the media hates Quebec and anyone French so much and you will have your answer. You people think you are so wonderful that you have to look for ways to elevate yourselves and spin your revisionist agenda to continue this perceived superiority over Quebec. This obscessive hate by English Canada of Quebec dates back into the Seventies. Quebec has been at war with Canada for 40 years. The fact is, the truth and the force of history is on Quebec's side. I look at everything, History, Religion, science, etc. Continue on with your hate. Jesus added one commandment: Love. and he talked about the furnace of fire of hell. He also talked about getting to heaven through him. The fact is English Canada for the Last 40 years has failed to demonstrate love towards Quebec so to hell with you all. Don't buy into religion? Who was the Roman's God? Rome existed for a thousand years and their God was Jupiter not Jesus. What alphabet is this post being written in? What force brought rome to destruction? Christianity perhaps?? So really, christians have offended two Gods, Jupiter and the God of Moses. It is ok for you to deny any Gods exist because it is certain at some point in the future you indeed will not exist. And Good Ridance.

Come on, produce the English Alphabet. If you so called self rightous anglos want to be linguistic revisionists than you should do it with your own alphabet. If you are revising and creating interpretations to other Latin dialects who are you collaborating with? fellow anglos? to draw your narrow interpretations? Because you are brainless I will be more than happy to fire up my brain to shed light your ill guided delusions.

There is a difference between exploitive trade and Free Trade. Name products eminating from Canada that are being sold in Countries where Canada has free trade agreements. When I say eminating I mean innovated, created, designed, engineered, manufactured, and exported. Resources don't count (ie oil and potash, etc, etc). I doubt there will be much of a list. The companies that are in Canada are actually mostly foreign nationals located in Canada to take advantage of Nafta and Canada's lax immigration rules. Canada's whole model of prosperity was to exploit immigrant labor to drive increasing exports to the US. Now that the bubble has burst Canada is faced with realizing what a loser Country it actually is. Canada needs to pull up its boot straps and rely on its own efforts to prosper and pull itself up. To do that people are going to have to wake up and vote out the conservatives and find politicians who will represent them and not foreign fly by night corporations that are only in Canada so long as they are able to exploit Canadians with low wages and enjoy their access to the US market. The reality is, Canada doesn't need a free trade agreement with the US because we have nothing to sell them other than shipping goods made by US companies in Canada to be then shipped to the US. What does that accomplish? Does Canada really need its hand held by the US to show it how to work? Do Canada a service. Scrap the Free trade agreement. Canada doen't need it.

Who made that translation. Where's the English Alphabet?

Believing Jesus is going to save you from death is a bigger joke.

Non existing Roman Gods?? Rome endured for a thousand years. The Roman's God was Jupiter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_(mythology) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_...2&version=9 There you have it, Jesus has stated to render onto Ceaser's which is Ceaser and that which is God's God's. This alphabet is of Rome and the Roman's God was Jupiter.

abandoned???? New France was lost to the British in 1759 so how can France abondon the colony in 1763. If New France was such a declining colony why did the King of England allow the French colonists to continue on as they did under the French? If the French colony was on the decline why did the British in the 1800s bring in a million people from other common wealth countries to counter Quebec's population increases. Why? reenact it the history it will create tourism for Quebec and make quebec money. It will also start the education process on how North America came to be.

Hmm, I wonder how many times Countries entered into treaties they didn't mean or state they are not involved in something when they in fact were. How many times have countries not honored treaties. It is on Record France denied aiding the American Independence which they did. When France signed this agreement it was under duress as they were financially weakened. Actions is what reveals the truth, not words. To arrive at the truth you have to approach the event from all sides. You have no interest in truth. You Canadien are a troll of sorts and you actually think whatever it is you propogate on these forums will be accepted as history by the unaware. Maybe the vain who will not research the history for themselves will rely on your vain history interpretation but I am sure in this day and age most will use their brain and look at the facts and not your revisionist agenda.

Well, That is fine to Reenact the Loss of Quebec/Canada to the English in 1759 to propogate the delusions of Grandeur of British Dominance of North America. British Dominance and abuse of Canada, Yes. British Dominance of North America, No. The fact is Quebec/Canada was lost during what is known as the Seven Year War in Europe. France was blocked from sending its battleships to protect Quebec/Canada. That is fact. However, those of Quebec lineage have been psychologically abused by the lying English into to believing france abondoned the Colony. Which is not true. 20 years later France provided the military resources and funding to help bring about an Independent United States. This support was contigent on the US regaining Quebec/Canada for France. This did not happen, partly because of Benedict Arnold. The US fought 4 years to regain Canada to only abondon the cause when they secured what they wanted (their independence from Britain). To the non-believers read the documented letters at the library of Congress of George Washington, etc. It's all available on the Internet from the Library of Congress. In 1778 the Marquis Lafayette of France working with US army spearheaded a final campaign to capture Canada but this attempt failed. So all you English Elitists and even the French for that matter get your own alphabet and quite defiling the Roman God of Jupiters language with your propagating shit. You want to fabricate history to suit your twisted agenda go for it. Jesus wrote about shit branches. They are going to be tossed into the Furnace where there will be gnashing of teeth. The fact is, the Truth of history will come shining through for all to see. The Force of Life and History will move forward in Truth. If this commission wants to renact this event go for it but this will only get people looking at what France was doing around this time as well. The fact is 1759 and 1812 is British History, Not Canadian History. So Where's the British Dominance of North America??? Britain held North America for not even 20 years but has emotionally and psychologically abused Quebec for 250 years. So really, what is the point of this ongoing drama? How does it contribute to making Canada a prospering and productive Country?

You are right and you are actually nailing the sin conundrum on the head. To live up to Leviticus would be a mighty feat and quite impossible. What I think happened over time is Synogogues became an imposing presence on the minds of Man that Christianity/Jesus dieing on the Cross was a move create a yin yang paradox to Sin. Really, Jesus in fact represented Freedom but unfortunatly where their is "freedom" their are those who will twist and exploit people for their own vanity. Because of the state of the world dynamic one must draw upon what will psychologically sustain you and really what makes sense. If you have read the Old Testament then you know God also forgives your sins as well. I would have to to Say God of the Old Testament is about instructions and your compliance to those instructions. God killed alot of people for carelessness and frowardness. I would have to say the God of the Old Testament has successfully carved out his characteristics. Of course to many people that is unacceptable so they elevate their vain Jesus believing in their man idol thinking he will deliver them into the Heaven he preached about. However, the Jesus fallacy is that Jesus was likely a product of emotional and psychological brainwashing carried out by his twisted family. It is fact the Greeks and Greek Society had the Septuagint a greek translation of the Old Testament 300 Before Christ. 300 Years is alot of time to digest those stories and for a "christian" movement to mobalize a polarizing messages to those old testament stories. It is also Historical Fact it took 300 more Years for Christianity to pick up momentum as a religion. Think about that, 600 years! It took another 1400 years to get the Christian Monkey off the worlds back, so to speak. Jesus has said some somethings that I think could be legitimate but that is something each every person must sort through. What I do find in reading some of the posts is that they don't believe there really, really is a God or there is a jesus but they want to use the concept of God, Jesus to herd the people so to speak. On that, I say people, WAKE UP to effers..

I wonder what platform of thought you are operating from? The old testament is clear, eye for an Eye. If you kill you run the risk of being killed. That said, if it is established you are of no value and are a danger to society in General why keep you around? Why should hard working people support trash with their tax dollars. This axiom should also apply to over zelous police and prosecutors who exagerate evidence in order to win their charge or case. We need to bring back the rope and tree. I support the death penalty and the only reason I don't inflict justice upon the corrupt is because I would be arrested for doing so. Is it cowardice to not want to go to Jail to rid the earth of scum? You are confused, the state insists on inflicting justice on our behalf not we who insist the state do it for us. If the state will stand aside I am more than willing and able.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses and all the king's men Couldn't put Humpty together again Borrowing money with the intent of never paying it back is stealing. People need to be properely motivated to try in life and pay their way. Regulation over the stock market has become lacks. Because of this the stockmarkets are corrupt. That's a problem. In fact people's losses on the stock market, is because corporations are able to legally to steal money. They have the right to issue as much shares as they want by way of the Investment Banks and Brokerages. This is a legal mechanism for corporations to print and steal money from unsuspecting investors. A corporation can also dispense of any assets at any time. In this situation you have investors who may get duped into putting money into a company only to have that company sell off those assets which inspired them to invest. Once done, the stock becomes worthless. To me this is fraud. Yeah, corrupt. Stocks is a vehicle to fund retirement and stocks happen to represent employment which puts food on peoples table. If you think that is greed there is something wrong with you. The stock market is a legitimate structure but has become a den of thieves. What you have is the Banks, Brokerages, and Corporation standing ready to flood the market with shares. Doing this only contributes to more outstanding shares and driving down the share prices. When a corporation can't sucker in new money from shareholders they start to borrown against assets until they are crushed by their own debt. The North American Capital markets is Broken and needs to be fixed to restore investor confidence. The stock market needs more regulation and oversight. Corporations and Brokers should have to disclose on their Financial statements as to how many shares they have trying to be sold versus outstanding shares. The higher the percentage, the larger the red flag is to stay away from the stock

Humpty Dumpty buddy. American consumer didn't want to pay their bills say they began getting cut off from the credit cards and home foreclosures soon followed. The American Economy was being fuel by people who were buying with the intent of never ever repaying the money back. If people are not paying their bills and then no one is buying what does that do to the stock Market. Not a mystery. What Bush should have done is create a debtors court or the create laws to force people to pay their debts voluntary or through some form debt prison sweat shop to repay what they spent. Corruption #1 The stock markets have become corrupt because they were all privatized. Once upon a time there were strict rules for listing and staying listed. The rules today are so lax that the stock market has become a vehicle to legally steal peoples money. Like the American consumer these stocks have no intention of ever returning the investor a return. Corruption #2 Traditionally you were investing in a stock to earn a part of the companies profits and a share of the companies growth. Accounting practices in states have become so slack and abusive that the intent is to lure investors in with real money and then drive the stock down by selling fake shares owned by Company insiders or financial institutions. The cycle continues until I guess there is no more money to be stolen by the corrupt corporations and banks. Corruption #3 Profits were because of purchases made by consumers who bought on credit without the intent of ever paying the money back. Those who borrowed the money and each every one of them ought to be pursued till the end of time until they have paid back their debt in full.

If there weren't lefty do gooder christians standing in the way I am sure there wouldn't be a death row wasting tax dollars. The judge would render his judgment and the prisoner would be escorted to the rope and hung for all to see. Bullets are cheap. Rope and a tree is environmentally friendly; Can be re-used over and over. No taxpayer in the world should be allowing human trash to continue on. As they say, kill them all and let God sort them out.

killing them is the right thing to do and it would also save tax dollars. Why should working Canadians pay to feed and shelter human trash that should have been disposed of by the noose of a rope.

If you have anything good to say, say it often. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_...0&version=9 Be strategic and inflict God's wrath upon those who espouse economic marginalization upon a free and democratic society. In these times of economic strife you must stand firm against the comunists and the corrupt seculars. Be vigilant and attack what the prize.

What are you going to do? continue to run trillion dollar deficits? What is going to happen when the US baby boomers begin retiring and they want their pension checks. Where's the money going to come from? Like it or Not Europe has now become an Alternate World Currency. People will move away from the US if the US can't stabalize its economics. The US has already cheated the World out of money. The only way to reverse these deficits is to introduce a Federal Sales Tax.

Communism a classless society??? Really?? Why don't you tell that to the chinese, the cubans, and those of Russia before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Anyone affilitated with government held status and priveledge in the Country. Some could argue that is exactly how canada has been operating. You obviously don't look at the real world communists structures and Real World history. You are looking at the academic model of Communism. Stop being a dreamer and come back to Reality. Get your head out of ficticious books. Look at China You have 70 million members of the Red Party who make the laws and run the Government of China. It is difficult to get into the red party and alot of hoops have to be jumped for that to happen. Those in the Red party influence and direct the actions of over a billion people. Those in the Red Party enjoy a standard of Living well above that of the non members. It is common knowledge as to what will happen to you if you say the wrong thing in China. In a communist structure you are ruled by a "Ruling Class" and your freedom of Expression is not guaranteed. Is that Freedom and demoracy to be ruled by the Proud?? Capitalistic Societies is the pursuit of wealth. Wealth is accumulated in many ways. There is no fixed way to accomplish this. Wealth in a truly capitalistic society is merely a decoration of your success. Those who talk of class are losers. They have no talent or skills to earn or create real wealth. Those who talk class are nothing but vain and proud people who believe they are entitled; in turn they are corrupt and they are the corporate garbage that has buckled the world economies. As for the United States: They are a democracy founded by a war of Independence. The founding fathers constructed a constitution to establish a balance of power and to protect the individual from the government. In the US democracy, congressman and senators are elected to creat laws. In the US democracy they elect a President to Form the Government Administration and to decide what laws make it into society. After the Laws are in force the United States has countless Lawyers that will pursue injustice. What does this have to do with Class? This process is faceless. You want justice it takes money, energy, and enabling laws! Not some demented class structure. As for Capital markets in the US, you are free to pursue wealth creation. However, if your product makes someone sick be prepared to be taken down by a law firm. What does that have to do with Class? Class is certainly used by people and the media. When class is used it is usually a move to create a group or heirarchy to look down on another class of people. Class does indeed exist but it is a slippery slope and is not easily defined to blanket the masses of people into camps of low, middle, and upper. By looking at someone it is hard to know how much money they have unless they tell you. Money is faceless and could not care less how it is made. You either are in the low income, middle income, or high income bracket or not. So if you are in the Middle Income Bracket does that make you middle Class? That depends on who you ask. Let's face it, the Capitalistic market of North America is a fraud. The corporations only pursuit is to drive down their input costs and transfer their profits to the shareholders. If class is used in the corporate environment it is nothing more than a tactical ploy to marginalize and demean you into not asking for more compensation. Class is a tool of intimidation to exploit and abuse the people who do the actual work of the company. The problem is, corporate America went to far and now look at the world's economy . The people of the western world have to wake up and realize they have a voice to get representatives that will act as stewards to the country. 3 Steps to Solving the North American Economy. => The United States implements a Federal Sales Tax and Canada increases its GST to offset the current projected deficits. After the deficits are gone they can be rolled back. => The United States and Canada Implements Tax cuts to the Low income bracket. The Middle Income Bracket is split into two and the lower Middle Income tax is also cut. Income Taxes are increased on the Upper Middle Income and Upper Income Brackets. It is their fault the North American Economies have buckled and they should pay. => All Government Projects are frozen and Government Spending is systematically cut until Canada is operating in the Black. Class is nothing more than a modern illusion created by the academia and the media in a move to marginalize people. The people have to realize they are in a democracy plain and simple. You are free and don't let anyone tell you different. However, there is a caveat. Just because you believe in your vanity and feel you want to impose your vanity on those around you Know that the God of Moses has established a book of Guidance to reflect on. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_...0&version=9 I suggest those who cloth themselves in class tread carefully. The Fact is, North American Society is not a secular society. We are a society based on Judeo Christian precepts. The media and the academia screaming and dictating at people otherwise will not change this fact. That is not the definition of a secular society. A secular society is one that operates without religious consideration. Religion and churches are irrelevant to a secular society. I would hardly call the Middle East a theocracy rather than a form of crowd control while the minority benefits from the money generated by Oil Revenues. Machievelli at work. Why police the people when God will do it for you. What secular societies are you talking about? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/secular The only pure secular society out there is maybe Cuba. There are very few countries that don't have their origins in religious doctrine so therefore they can't really be considered secular. Religion is a personal matter. Religion is a sign of a failed and corrupt society. Good Societies have no need for religion, only the bad ones do.

Oh, So you are too proud to make eye contact. Let me get out my handy butcher knife. I'M JOKING!

It appears the so called "seculars" want their cake and eat it to. You want a society separate and not influenced by religion while at the same time you want to hold people hostage to a corrupt society. Society in itself has become God. When I say corrupt, North America is suppose to be a free and democratic society. In a democracy the people elect representives who in turn forms parliament who then creates the rules of engagement. These representatives also form the Cabinet who oversees the daily operations of the Bureacrats to ensure the rules of engagement are being upheld. This is not happening because a communist mentality has gripped Canada. We have asshole politicians and we have asshold government bureacrats in the ranks. The people of Canada need to WAKE UP and vote these assholes out and elect representatives who will represent you and then show the asshole bureacrats the door. I know your type you advocate a class based society and those who do are actually communists. Communists don't support freedom and democracy. They support heirarchies and subordination to their vanity. Often these communists are self proclaimed atheists. However, amazingly I have come across some that have clothed themselves in Christianity. They operate this will way because they think they are "better" than everyone else. Like all demented Christians they think they can do anything they want, all will be forgiven, and they will pass go to heaven. It's not hard to see where Christians get this superiority complex. In the days of the Aristocrats of Europe a King or Queen often granted people titles that gave them status and priveledge over the common folk. However, it appears the aristocratic attitude is alive and well in the media and in this forum thread alike. That said, those who view themselves in this fashion would have to had descended from Royalty. If you are not royalty and you parade around the world elevating yourself as a higher class than everyone else then you people are in fact just a "proud" lot. You have zero basis for your "proud" position other than the fact that you think you are so much better than everyone. The reality is how wrong you are http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/proud I could support and would support a free and secular society but I will not support a corrupt and secular society. A corrupt secular society is a communist society. A communist society, is a society of Class, heirarchy, and subordination. This mentality is not the precepts of Freedom and Demoracy and is an insult to those who have fought and died in establishing an Independent United States and the World Wars that followed. Because the United States, Canada, and the World have engaged in the politics of Corruption the economies have been buckled and been brought to its knees. Canada and The United States is rooted in Judeo - Christian Theology. In dealing with the Proud, God had this to say: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_...0&version=9 Those who advertise their superiority over you and others and have no basis for this pride are at risk of be taken out of Life permanently by who they are victimizing. At which time you will then be met a death's door by Satan and escorted to Hell to be tortured and obliterated out of life. What people don't realize God has smiled on Man and has given a book to inspire you. To get you on the road of knowledge and you. Christianity is a fraud. Greek Society had the Septuagint. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint For 300 years Before Christ. Jesus, his Family and others had access to this book. What Jesus said and did was a contradiction to Moses in many ways. However, Jesus said some things and his words and actions have resonated for more than 2000 years. What Jesus said was not all bad or good. The problem really lyes with those who have used Christianity to fuel their own vanity. Their is a legitimate message in Christianity that could be devine or a snare. Christianity was embraced by Rome 300 After Death. The Greek philosophers had 600 years to hammer out thier opposing religion to the God of Jacob. Good on them

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/secular Secular has come up so often had to see what the definition actually is. Ok, if Canada is supposedly a secular society than why Canada so Corrupt? All we have is pretend politicians and pretend bureacrats. The only thing that is not pretend about them is they are sucking tax dollars to feather their own vanity. Some call this form of Government - Communism. Communism is where you serve the government and the politicians. You have no say in the laws, the laws are there to shackle and subordinate you to the Communist Regime. It is quite obvious we have communist forces at work here in Canada and they need to be expunged from the Government and Political Parties alike.

Ok comrad. You should relocate to Cuba, you would like it there I am sure. Today's world is suppose to be a free and democratic world. The church days are gone buddy. The second King Louis XVI's head was chopped off in Europe and Napolean's rise collapsed the Church's grip on Europe. The church can dream of those glory days all it wants. They are never ever coming back. When you talk of church you obviously talk of a Christian. With that I would say I doubt you have read the Old Testament and actually understood it. God Freed the Children of Isreal from Egypt by moses hand after 7 years of Bondage and hard labor. He led the Children of Isreal through the Wilderness for 40 years. Many didn't make it because God didn't feel them worthy to continue. During those 40 years, God gave Moses his Law and statues for the Children of Isreal to follow. God guided and led them and after 40 years they built a temple unto God and housed the arc of the Covenant. This temple was the center of worship unto God. On how to worship God, Read the Commandments and Statues! After this "event" each and every prophet in the old testament was a cry for the Children of Isreal to follow the Commandments and statues. In it's essence that is the old testament. Oddly, it appears that the Old testament Known as the Septuagint was tranlated into greek 300 Before Christ. So, really what you have is a Nutbar Called Jesus Christ who likely smoked the same crack pipe as you and went to war against the Synogoges. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint READ the NEW TESTAMENT. Because if you did, obviously the Synogogue was in itself an institution and Jesus and his apostles set out to attack the Laws and statues of Moses and bring down the synogues. So keep defending Your Whore. Because Jesus is no different than when Moses went up to the mountain to get God's commandments and when he came back he found the Children of Isreal worshipping a Golden Calf. What did God do to them? He obliterated them. I am a truth Seeker that wants to live my life in a free and just society. Religion is a personal act and to be done in private. But the christians are not content unless they impose themselves on everyone else. Christians are not happy until they defile and corrupt everyone around them. The Fact is Jesus had access to the Old Testament as well as Greek Society for 300 years. More than enough time to plot a way to Bring down the Jewish Synogogues. It took another 300 years for Christianity to pick up steam. Christianity was thought to be a way to preserve the Roman Empire. How right they were. The Roman Empire lives on in the written word. You are in fact you using the Roman Alphabet on this forum. You want to turn people's mind back to religion and deny and deprive people welfare and unemployment may God grant you what you deserve and all your christian buddies: The furnace of fire (as described by jesus) where you will be obliterated out of life. Oh, of course this won't happen until Satan is finished with you first You can Fak off with your prime objective