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LOL. A gay basher. I love it. The right wing. There is a Simpsons character for you lot.

Ha ha. Loving the c suite, M. Dancer. The view is just TO DIE FOR. LOL.

Back to the thread topic... Can John McCain bring peace and democracy to Iraq by the end of his first term - 2013? He says he can. What do you think?

Are you saying he is someone who is open to debate and builds a position? On what basis are you proposing to vouch for this member?

Oh my. Back to the Nazis are we? And how long ago was that? 70 years? That was in Europe wasn't it? For Europe, why not try "Paris 1919" by Margaret MacMillan, and "PostWar" by Tony Judt? I understand completely what Fisk was saying. I doubt you've read anything he's written. Why not start with "The Great War for Civilisation"? You might want to spend a little time on the chapter that deals with his father. Let me know when you're finished the one thousand plus pages. I'll give you more, even if you fail the spot quizz.

Case in point.... You have chosen to ignore all posts from: bush_cheney2004. · View this post · Un-ignore bush_cheney2004

You didn't read my post. Why bother the mod when you have the ignore feature? Why would I want to debate issues with people who are rude, consistently ideological, bizarre, etc ? I am always open to debate with people who have the wit to build a base for the debate and stick to the topic. Why waste time on those who think that because they have a hammer everything looks like a nail?

QUOTE name='M.Dancer' post='pox' date= 'May 22 2008, 11:50 AM') You have chosen to ignore all posts from: M.Dancer. · View this post · Un-ignore M.Dancer LOL. Marketing to the C-Suite are we? LOL.

First of all, I only resort to the ignore feature for members who are consistebntly illogical or consistently ideological. If you are going to persist in skewing this thread to bring gays into the mix, then YOU ARE OFF TOPIC and I just might ignore you too. GET YOUR OWN THREAD!

Biofuels are the revenge of the equatorial downtrodden. If you have sunlight, you can produce ethanol from sugar very cheaply. If you don't, you are reaching. Some countries (Brazil) have their act together enough to benefit from it. Others (Philippines) are so screwed up by corruption, they may never realize the benefit. Let's hope the World Bank is paying attention to this litmus test. If countries like the Philippines are not able to leverage themselves from this bounty, then it is time to stop shovelling money at them and let them starve until they revolt.. Not so long ago, Pinoys revolted against Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, the latest priviledged landowner who has taken control of the Philippines (forgetting the clown show provided by that booze-addled cinema star - what was that idiot's name?). It was the right thing to do. In spite of all the drama over there - Cory, Gringo, Estrada, yadda yadda yadda, the ruling class is still the same bunch of half wits. Are Pinoys going to get their act together now or are they going to continue to be putched around by the idiot class that Marcos and his like created?

The Arab League has swung a deal to end the conflict in Lebanon at a meeting in Qatar, according to Reuters. And neither the US or Israel had a hell of a lot to say. In fact, they were given their fair share of the blame. The Arab League has finally produced results. Let's hope it holds.

Try to focus will you? Get your own friggin thread.

So what? This is bupkis. A bullet in the Quaran versus a billion in the budget. This is the kind of crap the media likes to get all bothered about. I mean really, people.

The LCBO has reported that Wine and Vodka sales are up - each of them around 10%. If you've got money, you buy wine and if you don't, you go Russki. Tough times ahead for Ontario?

An insulting 25% is exactly right. This is a ridiculous situation. Surely there must be a Charter challenge in there somewhere.

THe problem with this is that you look at the conflict as some sort of technical military event. It was in fact a political event and military matters will always be secondary to the political goals that precipitate them, no matter who wins. This is a lesson that has somehow completely escaped anybody who tried subjugating Afghanistan, going right back to the British in the 1800s, Iran going back to Mossadeq, and the Jews going back to the days of the Egyptians.

CNN. A direct film byte.

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There has been sniping across the Lebanese border, no question, but Israel is the only country that has had its army cross that border. What has Israel done for them? You seem to have this idea that they should all just throw up their hands and shout "Yes Tevya. It will marry your daughter!" Why should these countries love Israel? Fill me in. Lebanon does not have the power to cause its own problems. It is simply a battleground. We have the Druz and Phalange who are being propped up by the Israelis and the Americans and we have Hezbollah being propped up by everybody else. Why do you propose that Israel and the Americans have more right to meddle in Lebanon than the Syrians and Iranians do? Huh? I agree there is no central control. On either side. How many illegal settlements (illegal by even Israeli law) are now in the West Bank, You call this Central control? Why in the name of John A McDonald would the Egyptians be expected to take responsibility for Gaza? Who thrust that role on them? You should be damned grateful for what they have done for Gaza. Were it not for the Egyptians, Gaza would have been a genocide a long time ago. O really. So how many settlements have been built to house Arabs? How many Arab immigrants have been welcomed to the land of Eratz Israel? How many Arab cabinet ministers can you name? The dispute is legitimate. You seem to be assuming that I am saying Syria's beef is legitimate. My solution is a merger of Jordan, Israel, Gaza and the West Bank into a single democratic nation with a consitutional monarchy. Sure. We have a responsibility to see both sides, look at the historical facts, and to not take sides. There is always a deal. The problem is that the deal has yet to be found. Haven't seen anybody here say that the Jews should be 'tossed'. Where does that come from? The nuclear threat, right? No wonder Iran is racing to develop nuclear technology. If I were an Arab or a Moslem, I would not trust Israel for a single moment. O right. Driven into the sea. And then we have Clinton shouting bomb to smithereens. Exactly. Thanks for asking. There it is. Thank you for engaging in intelligent debate without resorting to namecalling, ridicule and prevarication. It is always a pleasure to debate issues with a true democrat.

John McCain is now saying that he will win the Iraq war by the end of his first term.He would be workng with an army that is already on an extended tour of duty. He will be funding it all with an economy that is sputtering as the price of commodities rise and the dollar declines. Weapons will be more expensive than ever and troops will be hard to find. He will be fighting an enemy that has yet to waver and who will be defending on its own turf. Can John McCain win the war in Iraq before the end of his first term?

Can you elaborate? I didn't see the interview, although I know that Matthews supported the invasion of Iraq.

Israel already has peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan. Where is this vast majority? Its other neighbours are Lebanon - which it has attacked twice, and Syria, which has a legitimate territorial dispute. Sure it could. And what would happen next? Not sure what your argument is but the reason that Israel has not annexed the West Bank is that it would immediately bring one hell of a lot of very angry Palestinian Arabs into the Israeli democratic framework and show Israel's 'democracy' for the canard that it really is. It is in our best interest to get the whole bloody thing settled down, and not to take sides. The more we take sides, the less is the likelihood that there can be peace. If you were a Palestinian Arab, would you give damn about the Holocaust? This is the great injustices these people have been asked to choke down. The Jews got murdered by the Nazis and so you should give up your land. Do you see the flaw in this argument? Even Ben Gurion said that he didn't blame the Arabs for getting upset. Google this if you are not well enough acquainted with the history to know what I am talking about.

I prefer a balanced approach, which Canada followed until Harper got elected. Harper is engaging in Israel appeasement. Israel appeasement is not going to bring peace to the Middle East.

I see. So if a platoon of soldiers were to show up at your house - the house you had bought, made payments on, and after many years of monthly payments, finally owned outright - and told you that you had 15 minutes to leave or get bulldozed into the rubble, those would be your values?

I am not asking Israel to lay down arms, with the exception of nuclear arms. I would not ask Canada to lay down arms. I would not ask anybody to lay down arms. This argument is like a dog that chases its own tail. Believe it or not, there are people in the Palestinian Territories and Lebanon who believe that Israel is trying to exterminate them. Do a little digging. You will find my thread with a suggested solution.