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Well it's finally be discussed in the open now, heres an interesting article. Alloting money that benefits a small minority is pandering to those groups and is discrimination against the majority. Link: http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/s....html?id=356483 Snippet: Mississauga Mayor Hazel McCallion criticized federal multicultural funding as dividing immigrants instead of uniting them, and called for better integration of newcomers. "An awful lot of money is spent on multiculturalism and on keeping our immigrants separated rather than integrated," Ms. McCallion said in an interview."They've been given all kinds of money over the years to have their own organization, their own programs, and I think there should be more money spent on integration, in other words, encouraging them to get involved in all the organizations within a community like the service clubs and the sports groups." Ms. McCallion said she knows the value of cultural groups and does not want to "cut off" their funding. However, she argues in favour of stepping up outreach efforts that help integrate the growing number of new residents who are choosing to live in the cities outside of Toronto. According to 2006 Census data, Peel and York regions

Bingo that is exactly what fires up their anger. It's jealousy, and they cover it up under the guise of Political Ideology. If they don't like capitialism why don't they put their money where their mouth is and go squat on an ole homestead and commence to living off the land. Don't drink the water it's most likely poisonous, the soil will need to be tested also. Don't get me started on the toxins in the ole house. But what the hay they won't be feeding the ole capitalist machine will they, those who do decide to live like this should check themselves for a third nut or nipple regularly though.

Watching the Palestinians dancing and partying and celebrating in the street was repulsive. I can only imagine the hatred these animals have for innocent Jews, to make merry in the street and celebrate the death of innocents. Absolutely sickening, they also have been using children as human shields on roof tops because evil Israel is sending out leaflets to area residents that they will be firing on terrorist targets and so they use children as human shields. Animals, vile animals.

Well stated and I concur. I would like all funding for the arts stopped, if they have talent they should be able to survive without my tax dollars being wasted on art that looks like it belongs in the dust bin. Honestly the artsy fartsy crowd sense of intitlement is scary, but hardly surprising since we've been pandering to these dead beats for so long.

Should youths be exempt from the law? No, screaming no. In fact parents are the problem these days, they make excuse for the little scum buckets instead of hauling them out behind the shed and beating the crap out of them. Our youth aren't taught that there are consequences for their actions and when they become in conflict with the law the parents are in the court room mewling like asses that he's not a bad boy he's just misunderstood. Yea right, one local scum bag has racked up over 30 criminal convictions, he went to jail for two weeks for beating a cat to death with a golf club. He was picked up this week riding in a stolen car with a sawed off shotgun, yes by all means let the touchy feely crowd of idiots absolve him of his reponsibility.

Has this forum become the new Marxist forum? Give me a break the fools that call themselves "Socialist" use every social program to their full advantage and they have the nerve to tell us to be less materialistic. Okay here's a challenge, they give up sucking the tit of social programs and I'll park my big ole truck and pedal a trike to work everyday. I swear I will, it won't be hard it's only three feet from my bedroom and no Socialist will be harmed by this experiment. They can stay in Mommy's basement with their pop and chips, posting stupid solutions to real WORLD issues.

A little clarification Leafless: Those of us that live in Atlantic Canada aren't sucking the taxpayers tit vis a vis the Feds it's Ontario and Quebec that are. We ain't "Bilingual Enough", Ontario is fast becoming a have not province and your Geographfical slurs are old trite and frankly boring. Ontario is a has been province, Alberta is where it's at BABY. My province is governed by the Cons, useless bunch of wankers. As for Harper he's just another leader of yet another far left party that is posing as a Conservative Party. The Cons are Liberal Light or Diet Con, nothing he does represents Conservative values. As a Con I can't stand his dictator style of leadership or lack there of. Canadians will not be voting for the Conservatives they will be voting against the Liberals. I can't believe I'm typing this but the NDP is the only party that seems to care about Canada and her people. The Cons and Libs spend their days looking for ways to smear each other, they are acting like three year olds. I'm tired of both parties, if the NDP weren't such a fringe group and hauled their pants up and bacame more main stream I'd vote for them. Frankly most Canadians will be holding their noses come election time, neither the Libs or the Cons deserve to be PM and the NDP care more about Minority rights than democracy. Decent Canadians don't have a party to vote for, just parties to vote against.

Oh the horror expecting new Canadians to adapt to our culture, contrary to the Leftest agenda of Multiculture that resulted in racial and ethnic gettos and enclaves. Racism 101 enforced by the left and sold to the stupid public as "Tolerance" and "Diversity". Oh Dear me, we wouldn't want the truth to be told that all cultures aren't equal. Let's all pretend honour killings are a good thing, while we are pretending we can forget the horrors little girls must suffer under the guise of diversity. England should be so proud, little girls go missing and they think this "MIGHT" be a problem, women and children are desposable under a socialist goverment. In the name of tolerance and diversity and racial pandering what's a few hundred missing little girls that have been sold to horney ole men. Isn't it cute the way the socialist aka Labour aka Liberals need special leftard organizations like the National Forced Marriage Unit, it sorta of sounds like the SPCA but without any real mandate to help women and children. Wanna bet this issue will get glossed over as it has been in Canada for decades. Lets face it these MEN and WOMEN will pander to any culture to get elected for a life time, a few thousand women and children are worth their "Socialist Ethos" or lack of ethos. Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...d=1770&ct=5 Snippet: Dozens of children are missing from school amid fears they have been forced into arranged marriages, it was revealed yesterday. In Bradford, 33 children remain "unaccounted for" after being off school for at least two months with no explanation. The Government is also concerned about another 14 areas of the country where it is feared children under 16 could also be missing from school rolls. Scroll down for more ... Awaiting their fate: Young brides wait for their grooms in a mass arranged wedding in Bangladesh The figures were disclosed yesterday by Children's Minister Kevin Brennan during evidence to the Commons Home Affairs Select Committee, which is investigating the controversial issue of forced marriages. He revealed the results of worrying inquiries by officials in Bradford, a city with a substantial Asian population. Children's Minister Kevin Brennan: disclosed the figures yesterday Mr Brennan said Bradford City Council lost track of 205 youngsters last year. Further inquiries had established the whereabouts of 172 - leaving 33 unaccounted for. "It is a serious concern when any child - any single child - becomes unaccounted for," said Mr Brennan. "And what we need to try to do is seek an explanation of what has happened." Asked whether the police were looking for them, he added: "They should be." Committee chairman Keith Vaz, a former Labour minister, said MPs were "very, very concerned". "The figures you have given us quite frankly have shocked members of this committee just in relation to Bradford," he said. He added: "There are 14 other areas where there are missing children. This is totally unsatisfactory." The MPs demanded a report with more details about the "missing" children be ready by next Tuesday. The national Forced Marriage Unit was set up three years ago to tackle the problem regarded as "an abuse of human rights and a form of domestic violence". Laws coming into force this summer will allow victims

Eyeball wrote: think official hypocrisy is probably more damaging than the police-state that's required to enforce prohibition. Opinions such as this scare me, you justify any means to force your socialist agenda down the throats of all Canadians. Socialism slash Communism has killed enough people, how many million more must die before you wake up and realise your ideology is just plain stupid and generated by feeble minds that need the goberment to hold their hand whilst crossing a cow path? An adult chooses to smoke, a child doesn't. A responsible parent would not smoke in an enclosed place, second hand smoke kills and that's a fact. If you want to smoke go outside, or park the car for heavens sake it taint rocket science.

Kuzadd are you smoking pot again? Inflammatory surely you jest. You have been the worst offender I've ever met on the net for insulting Christians yet you expect society to bend over and kiss Radical Islamic ass to appease and pander. Do you know what you are? A hypocrite, a very big one. You'd crawl into bed with Radical and Political Islam because your hatred towards Christians has grown so large you can't think (not like you ever did)clearly. You miss are a prime example of WHO should be before the HRC and get her assed whipped and bankrupted for their beliefs. I'll eat Mo and Allah as I chose to, sad sacks like you have been the dominant voice long enough. The next time you type the word hate, bigot and asshole remember that's how I see you. Jesus wept, and that thang slept her way throught life. Don't sanction me she admited it.

I have to laugh at those that state we are ONE RACE, really so those that make a living doing "Facial reconstruction" using Racial Guidelines are Racist are they? When one can't be identified by personal observation a DNA sample is needed, opps their goes the ideology of we are ONE RACE out the window. It's kinda sad that those that like to think we are all the same can't find an ounce of evidence to prove it. Yet they are the same people that scream RACIST at anyone who dares challenges their stupid ethos. Hypocrisy pie anyone?

LOL the Cons are still sending the truely sick to the US to get treated, dah I wonder why. Your system is so much better than the current Socialist one we have in Canada. The irony is Cuba has got on the Health Care BandWagon and offers cheap treatment in posh hotels. Yea Canada's health care system is better than the US. If you never get SICK.

What exactly is African Culture? Do we really want to teach these black youth how to be more violent? Let's be honest, the Jamaican Gangs are killing innocents with guns to gain more power. So please explain how the following is going to enrich their education: Genocide is being commited in the Horn of Africa vis vie Arab Wahhabis funded by China, Russia, France and Saudi Arabia. Will this be part of the Africian culture at this Liberal Arts School? The Sudan, more Africans who rather be tribal leaders than have peace, thus they allow Arab Wahhabis to prop them up and be in power if they enforce (death threats by hanging) Wahhabi Islam down the Native Africians' throat. In Nigeria corruption and murder is the name of the game, will this be History rewritten 101. South Africa, need I say more? Kenya did any reading on the butchers using knives to kill their supposed enemies lately? Setting a Church on fire and killing dozens of Christians taking refuge is part of that culture now. How charming, coming to Torona soon. So what will they be teaching the black students, how to rape and pillage a community or how to clean their illegal weapons? Only in Canada could such a stupid Liberal Idea take root, well England's Socialist Goberment would embrace the same idea robustly. I can only shake my head at the brainless that walk amongst us. Truely stupid stupid people.

They aren't worried because it's Christians and suspected ( Warman using his thought police powers and his internet trolling to entrap people using his HRC spidey powers) White Supremacist getting their asses hauled before the HRC not Liberals. Their time will come and I'm going to enjoy their hypocrisy, their hatred hurled verbally towards Christians has been recorded and noted. As Cap posted Mr. Kisella is a wee bit upset, of course he doesn't advocate free speech unless it's the Liberal Voice Speaking. Here's Steyn's response to the Private Members Bill: http://steynian.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/red-alert-go-do/ Snippet: Private Members Bill to Gut S.13 of the CHRA. Ezra Levant weighs in. M-446 — January 30, 2008 — Mr. Martin (Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca) — That, in the opinion of the House, subsection 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act should be deleted from the Act. I find it rather amusing that several members of this forum have posted pure hatred towards Christians yet these same fools and village idiots advocate not "Insulting Islam" give me a break. I'm not bowing to Sharia Law, if I want to paint a pic of Mofo on the backside of my dog I shall. Down with section 13, a tool used by cry babies such as Gay Rights Advocates to silence the word of God. An attempt by Radical/Political Islamist to turn this country into some pityful excuse like England and Eurabia where we cower before Islamic Laws and allow Sharia Law. I find it ironic that a Classical Liberal had the moral courage to do what the current Conservative Party didn't have the guts to do. The HRC needs to go back to it's original mandate, adjudicating petty spats between bickering cry babies.

The guestion was asked who are they hurting when two consenting adults have incestious sex, the answer society. Frankly I suspect those that advocate "Incest" hurts no one if it's consentual are lacking the ole grey matter that defines acceptable sexual practices. Thankfully society at large would never allow those twisted individuals to practice their perverted sexuality openly. What's next from the "Far Left" pet sex??

Sadly people who think like you do deem all whites "Racists" funny the blacks can have organizations like the "Black United Front" the Jews can have organizations for Jews only and the Muslims can have CAIR and other "Muslim"organizations based on faith and race but god forbid a "White Man" open a Whites' Only Club and ole hell would break loose. Talk about a narrow racist mindset Cybercoma. I am tired of the "I blame the white PEOPLE crowd" and their hypocrisy against WHITES. White Man and Women's guilt is dead or almost dead, blame someone else for the failures of minority groups. Not the White Man's fault.

Find it funny Drea that a human who gets bitten by a rabit squirrel can die? I don't find that amusing. They forgot to add the HRCs to the list, with thought police running around looking/trolling to find something to offend them I'm sure a Aussies wicked humour would offend the Perpetually Offended. Good Day Mate might offend those oh so sensitive Canadians.

There is an easy fix, and most Canadians agree, scrap the Official Bilingual Act. There is absolutely no need for RCMP officers in Canada to know French because 12 percent (that stat is old) of the Country speaks it. Arabic, Chinese perhaps but French hell no, Quebec and NB are the only truely Franco provinces. Why should taxpayers be one the hook to train officers to learn french when the over welming majority in Canada don't speak the language.

Honestly Guyser sometimes you are thicker than a four by eight, here's a link which clearing lays out the complaint the HRC is persecuting Mr. Steyn for. Link: http://www.steynonline.com/component/optio...page/Itemid,33/ To debate a subject try researching it first Guyser. What I find rather galling is that the NDP were responsible for the expanded mandate of the HRC in BC, Sask, and Alberta and those are the provinces that the Five Elmo's Boys filed complaints in. I guess they are judge shopping. It's okay for three provinces to use taxpayers' dollars to provide legal counsil for these five for FREE, it just tears me up to think several hundred thousands of dollars being wasted because these Five Men are crybabies and easy to offend. The HRC is a vile organization, absolutely vile. No wonder the NDP like's it so much, marxist Legislation to become "Thought Police", they can deem one of being guilty using "Pre-Crime thoughts", where the complaintant's opinion can be deemed rule of law but the defendant isn't allowed an opinion. Absolutely horrifying that Canada has slipped so far left that adjudicators can be thought police, how long before we are hauled off the streets and thrown in jail for offending those that use the HRC as seriel complaints? To far fetched, I don't think so. Snippet from one of Rex Murphy's articles: Do they really want - after Ezra's example, mind you - to call Mark Steyn, the Victoria Falls ("The Smoke that Thunders") of prolific columnists - into one of their style-less chambers to "explain himself?" If Mr. Levant contains multitudes, how to describe Mr. Steyn? He is a prodigy of immense resource and industry. Compared to him, Trollope was a slacker, Dickens a wastrel, and Proust a miniaturist. He inundates. Books, columns, blogs and obiter dicta in a thousand venues - if Mr. Steyn goes before one or all of these commissions, he will be firing off columns between questions. He'll write a column on a question while it is being asked. I urge our guardians to consider their own interests: Stay a while before essaying this profitless and useless venture Another Snippet: Steynposts Link: http://www.steynonline.com/content/blogsection/14/128/ Tuesday, 22 January 2008 Just to clarify, I have no interest in Richard Warman except insofar as he illustrates, at best, the superfluousness of Section 13 (if this provision is so necessary to Canadians, how come this one lone Canadian has been a plaintiff on every single Section 13 case since 2002?) and, at worst, the corruption of its administration by the Canadian Human Rights Commission. However, I was struck by a couple of things in this decision by the CHRC. This is the case of Kulbashian vs Warman from 2006. In essence, Warman had taken Kulbashian to the CHRC and Kulbashian retaliated by taking Warman to the CHRC. After all, Warman posts message at the same "hate" website Kulbashian does - as the "investigator", Sandy Kozak, conceded, technically: Bearing the above in mind, this complaint is not clearly lacking in merit as the respondent [Warman]'s actions do amount to communicating hate messages albeit in a very limited context. Hmm. However, Investigator Kozak declined to proceed with the complaint on the following grounds. Since filing it, Mr Kulbashian had been found guilty by the Tribunal in the Warman vs Kulbashian Section 13 case. Therefore, Investigator Kozak concluded: Given these findings by the Tribunal, it can be deduced that the complainant [Kulbashian] is not interested in furthering the purpose of the Act or of s.13. Do I understand that right? Because Kulbashian had been found "guilty" of Section 13 "hate", he had no right to accuse anybody else of Section 13 "hate"? Because his conviction demonstrated that he was "not interested in furthering the purpose of the Act", he had no right to avail himself of its provisions? Whatever happened to equality before the law? Suppose I decide to countersue, say, the Canadian Islamic Congresss and the Osgoode Four - Elmo's kids - because they've exposed me to "hatred and contempt". And suppose, while that complaint was being considered, the CIC/Maclean's suit was decided (as it almost certainly will be) in the plaintiffs' favour. Would the CHRC then deny me the right, as the author of the offending Section 13 "hate" speech, the right to make a complaint under Section 13? Would the fact that I have said repeatedly that the CHRC should not be in the thought-police business be taken to demonstrate that I was "not interested in furthering the purpose of the Act" and therefore should have no recourse to it? By the same token, if you call for the introduction of private health care to Canada, should you be denied treatment in the Royal Victoria? This is joke jurisprudence made up as they go along. More on the extremely active "activist" here.

I don't believe lack of education was a factor in the September 11 attack on the US. All the hyjackers had an education, the Doctors in Scotland had an education. In fact most of the suicide bombers are highly educated, so their inability to read wasn't the cause for their Radical beliefs. I believe the teachings of the Koran are the cause of Muslim violence, if one hasn't read this book they should. It's nothing but violence, revenge and child sex to spice up the boring bits. Blaming poverty and education is just a red herring to hide the fact that the very Teachings of the Koran are the cause of Islamic Violence. The koran was written during a time of barbarity and war and violence. For Muslims to follow the literal teachings of the Koran they must wage war on Non-Muslims as Allah instructed them to.

Quote from RB; mean what happen to sex being special, private and personal - at one time it meant a boy meets girl, fell in love, they got marry, had some children and live happily. Not as today boy and girl meet tons of whatever they can get easily. Under the guise of Liberal Ideology these values are scorned and mocked now. To follow the traditional path isn't a good thing anymore, our values aren't worth much to people who believe in socialism and Modern Liberalism. The anything goes group voice has been louder than the "Traditional Family Values Group", they think they are progressive and they see our beliefs as being outdated. Sadly us Cons have to pay for the social experiments of "The anything Goes" mentality. If given a choice I'd opt out and let the far left pay for their utopian dream of sex with anything that moves is cool man. They won't be happy until we are completely comfortable walking down the street and we note our neighbour having Cow Sex. We are suppose to hail this a progressive and normal, who's he hurting right? Consentual sex and all that other nonsense. I wonder what kind of malfunction took place during conception that leaves a brain with the belief that consenting sex with anything one wants to have sex with is progressive?? We use to call this ideology perversion, now it's progressive thought.

Thankyou Muddy, he/she's bang on, lack of discipline is the problem in our schools. Society handed the rearing of their children over to teachers and when things get rough they demand these children get a free pass from violent behavior. Parents need to step up to the plate and stop blaming everyone but them for their lack of parental concern regarding discipline.

A local reporter, Peter Duffy, did a segment on Min and Max sentences and why our courts were sentencing hardcore criminals to the min. He interviewed an experienced Judge and the Judge stated that Parliment under the Liberals sent a scathing memo to all Judges to start enforcing the min because it was costing the Liberal Government to much money to incarcerate criminals. Yes it's about money, under the Liberal Regime criminals received sentences of "House Arrest" for manslaughter instead of the usual five years of Federal Time. By sentencing them to House Arrest they passed the cost of incarceration to the municiple level, we get to pay for two years of welfare whilst they watch Pay TV and this stratagy is saving the Feds millions. Now our Provincial Governments are noticing the cash savings and criminals are getting house arrest instead of two years less a day for summary offenses. It's about money, our safety isn't important anymore. We the people have no value, including the victims. The criminal element is flourishing under this type of system, we don't have a penal system anymore unless the public gets outraged and then our Politicians pay lip service. How long before someone convicted of first degree murder is sentenced to house arrest??? Things aren't improving under the Con's leadership because they don't want to bare the cost of incarcerating criminals either. The conservative PM seems to be nothing more than Liberal Light. Google Peter Duffy and the article should be somewhere within his profile.

So Peter and MH both of you would be comfortable mortgaging your property to pay for legal counsil if someone files a complaint against you. Can you both afford to seek legal counsil to the tune of one hundred grand? Should one of the SSS HRC Agents plant evidence on a forum and then precedes to file a complaint based on planted evidence you'd have no problem with it?? Because this issue has gone beyond the Human Rights Commission hearing valid cases, it's agents have admited to planting evidence and then filing third party complaints. Do you understand how absurb this organization has become, they are investigator, complaintant and judge and jury. Canadian's should be screaming over this issue, instead of mewling like cows about how important this organization is. What good has the HRC done for the Human Rights of Canadians?? It is being used by special interest groups, including HRC employees to punish those that offend them. Rue and Argus your responses were a pleasure to read. Here's a link to Ezra's blog, this issue is getting world wide attention but MSM in Canada has been mute. One has to ask why the silence??? Are they to afraid to write articles lest they offend the perpetually offended perhaps. How Peter and MH can you justify, repeatedly, this kind of Communist control over innocent Canadians?? These aren't tribunals anymore they are witch hunts against religious people and authors who write about Radical and Political Islam. When they silence your voice, and they will-- it will be to late. Link: http://ezralevant.com/ Snippet regarding HRC investigator planting evidence on forums: Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Justice Minister. One of his staff, Dean Steacy of the Canadian Human Rights Commission, has admitted under oath that, as part of his job, he joined a neo-Nazi website called the "Stormfront", and posted racist remarks there. Can the Minister please explain why taxpayers' dollars are paying someone in his department to join neo-Nazi groups to spread propaganda? Mr. Speaker, can the Minister tell us: was this a rogue act by a single hate-monger who infiltrated the human rights commission? Or did others at the commission approve of this race-baiting strategy, too? Did the minister himself know? Or did he turn a blind eye to state-sponsored bigotry in his own department? Mr. Speaker, it's not just Dean Steacy who spreads hate in the name of human rights, using taxpayers' money. Richard Warman does it, too. He used to work for the CHRC, but then he left to work with them, filing dozens of complaints at the CHRC about hateful words. But now it turns out that Warman himself writes many of those hateful words, including calling Senator Anne Cools a "n*gger" and a "c*nt", and then complaining about it. Will the Minister immediately intervene to stay all of Richard Warman's complaints, and launch an internal investigation to see whether the evidence he planted was done with the collusion of his old friends at the CHRC? Mr. Speaker, given the confession of the Minister's employee, Dean Steacy, that the CHRC plants racist evidence that the CHRC then uses to investigate and convict others, and given the proof that the CHRC's most prolific complainant has planted racist, sexist remarks, will the Minister launch an independent review of all so-called "hate message" cases that the CHRC has ever conducted to see if they were all corrupted by planted evidence? Criticism of the human rights commissions has generally come from conservatives. But isn't a government-funded campaign to spread racist remarks precisely the sort of thing that should outrage lefties, too? It might also be the sort of question that someone should put to the far-left Canadian Jewish Congress, which awarded Warman a human rights award last year. Did they know that Warman called Canada's first Black, female Senator a c*nt and a n*gger? Now that they do know it, will they rescind their award? Or -- and this is my unhappy guess -- are they part of this whole scam?

Yes it should be illegal, if we stop making incest illegal it allows them to breed. In order to protect society from these repulsive persons they cannot be allowed to breed ergo producing off spring with IQ's as low as 65. A liberal social experiment at the expense of society will not be tolerated by us Cons. I cannot see society ever accepting Incest as a norm, never. We as a society deem what is acceptable and this type of behavior should remain illegal to protect society from being victimized by a small morally bankrupt segment of society. If one can't control their sexuality and feels compelled to have sex with their sibling or parent, society is better off if they breed with Lassie not a human being. There are limits to what the far left can inflict apon society in the name of tolerance, it's not tolerance to me it's lack of morals and ethics. Morally corrupt souless human beings that will force their perversions onto society. We won't allow it, or we shall fight the grand fight.