ScottSA

Aw, shucks, Scott, I'll try to take it easier on you in the future. Thanks, but just not misrepresenting what I say would be fine too.

I think a lot of animals can detect incoming death, and especially if it's expected. I'm sure the atheists among us will look for some scientific explanation, but since animals also detect spirits well after death with no possible scientific explanation, I suspect the cat is just joining the congragating welcoming committee.

Wait a second...what's really happening in Iraq? Unmitigated failure, or a tide change? No doubt there will be all sorts of attacks on the source...after all, the left loves to hate Krauthammer, but what about the facts that he's presenting? http://www.buffalonews.com/248/story/123235.html

But Rue, I'm not trying to argue unicausality...that's either a strawman or a misunderstanding of my position. I'm certainly not so simplistic of thought that I would dump everything in the lap of race. I am simply claiming that race is most certainly a factor, and often a determioning factor and focal point for violence, and Africa is a good example of that phenomenon, and as such it is an indication of possible future events in the west. Allow me to quote something I wrote on another thread: We have, across the world, in both caucasian and non-caucasian populations, a significant number of "anti-caucasians." When examples of the fruition of that hatred were shown, both you and Momo scoffed at it, claiming it's something else entirely. You called it "projection," while Momo went further afield in claiming it has to do with wealth. As for Momo's point; that Zimbabwe and SA are economic genocides, one could as easily make the same claim about the detention and dispossession of the Jews...indeed Hitler did...claiming that the Jews held the wealth of Germany hostage. And, like all Goebbelian half-truths, he was half-right...the Jews in Germany did hold a disproportionate amount of wealth. But your point is even harder to defend. Like Germany in the early 20th century, there is in post-colonial African countries a widespread sentiment against Caucasians...something whipped up by African politicians to be sure...but there nonetheless. This sentiment is shared by many non-Caucasian populations across the globe, and indeed by a significant portion of the Caucasian population itself (I can almost guarantee, for example, that some lilly white neo-liberal will pop up here and justify murder and mayhem against himself by an appeal to alleged historic wrongs). With the advent of the one-world victim mentality that pervades the west and, as a correlary, the UN, anti-Caucasian sentiment is rampant. Africa is a microcosm of the future in the west if floodgate immigration levels continue. Because of historical economic patterns, caucasians will hold the preponderance of economic power, but the day will come when they no longer form the majority of the population. What then, and why is it "projecting" to look at historical examples as a light shining into the future?

Thanks Higgly! I thought it was quite interesting given what is going on at this time, wrt pakistan, but hey, apparently I am one of a few who are REALLY paying attention to the merry-go round, spinning and wondering when and where this is going to stop? Yes Kuzzad. You're so clever I'm thinking of making you my sole source of world news. Btw, did you know that Bhutto has a new warrant issued for her arrest in Pakistan every few weeks? She's well supplied with toilet paper if nothing else...

Another truther thread? http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aspie/trueorfalse/sdm.html

Most of the terrorists who actually succeed, and most of the leaders are very well educated...some with western educations. Many of them grew up in secular society. "Education," presumably meaning to instill rightthink, is apparently irrelevant.

This is your argument? What is the point of having troops if all we're going to do is protect them? The rest of your post simply deals with dire and ridiculous hypotheticals.

With some caveats, I agree with you here. But I'd like to return to a previous post of yours on another thread...I'm not sure if this is the right thread to do it in, but it's as good as any I guess...and ask how you can justify the above statement in light of the following statement. We have, across the world, in both caucasian and non-caucasian populations, a significant number of "anti-caucasians." When examples of the fruition of that hatred were shown, both you and Momo scoffed at it, claiming it's something else entirely. You called it "projection," while Momo went further afield in claiming it has to do with wealth. As for Momo's point; that Zimbabwe and SA are economic genocides, one could as easily make the same claim about the detention and dispossession of the Jews...indeed Hitler did...claiming that the Jews held the wealth of Germany hostage. And, like all Goebbelian half-truths, he was half-right...the Jews in Germany did hold a disproportionate amount of wealth. But your point is even harder to defend. Like Germany in the early 20th century, there is in post-colonial African countries a widespread sentiment against Caucasians...something whipped up by African politicians to be sure...but there nonetheless. This sentiment is shared by many non-Caucasian populations across the globe, and indeed by a significant portion of the Caucasian population itself (I can almost guarantee, for example, that some lilly white neo-liberal will pop up here and justify murder and mayhem against himself by an appeal to alleged historic wrongs). With the advent of the one-world victim mentality that pervades the west and, as a correlary, the UN, anti-Caucasian sentiment is rampant. Africa is a microcosm of the future in the west if floodgate immigration levels continue. Because of historical economic patterns, caucasians will hold the preponderance of economic power, but the day will come when they no longer form the majority of the population. What then, and why is it "projecting" to look at historical examples as a light shining into the future? I would think that a Jew of all people would understand my concerns here. Are you "projecting" when you advocate keeping Israel's borders closed so that Jews don't become a minority in Israel? Are you "simplifying" and "labelling" and "breeding intolerance?" Or could it be that you are just not insane?

THIS...is exactly the "type" of American that is despised across the world. And in your arrogance you pronounce "We'll do whatever we want even if it kills us!" And in your envy you scream "we'll hate you no matter what you do!"

You'd have to show me some numbers that link the two things. If dual incomes are the source of houses rising in price, then what is the source of their falling in price? It is all a rather confusing. House prices seem to be affected by supply and demand. Lower interest rates have brought many people into the market and now we are seeing bidding wars for houses. This has stalled in the U.S. and the market has retreated. Why? Because the supply is great and the demand has lowered. Has there been a change in how people are dual income relationships? It's obviously not a uni-causal relationship, but to argue that dual incomes don't play a part in driving any market common to both income earners would be ludicrous. The only way you could argue otherwise is to claim that each newly working female didn't increase the family income but merely took some of her husband's from a finite pot.

Right now, at this moment, I'm working on a VC business plan for a new afghan telecommunications company. If the Taliban were in power I would most assuredly not be.

Don't think I agree with you there. Certain unfounded racial/ethnic stereotypes have been known to spread very virulently, and have been known to result in very unfortunate events. Not at all. You're refering of course to the holocaust, but you'll find, I think, with a deep reading of the times, that anti-semitism was no more widely held in Germany than anywhere else in the west. The difference is that a party took power...not because of its anti-semite policies, but in spite of them. I think you'll find that between 1928 and 1937, and in particular between 1933 and 1937, Hitler was virtually silent about anti-semitism. His "race laws" of 1935 were essentially slipped under the carpet and for the most part ignored until 1938. General anti-semitism in Germany neither increased nor decreased in Germany in the general public, nor in the rest of the west. The holocaust was a Nazi event, not a German event. Either way, it was not the result of the "spread" of anti-semitism.

Right. Tell me again why you're not for open borders for Israel?

Welcome. Be careful of Melanie. She has been known to impute rather draconian motives in people.

The majority of Candians? Yes. Of course you go on to miss the entire point of what she said, but yes, the majority (still) of Canadians are Christian or post Christian. The atheist left is vociferous, to be sure, shoving into forums in hugely disproportionate numbers, but they are a minority.

Birds of a feather flock together. Well, in this case they dodder and totter together

ummmmm...no.

I love this nonsense. No longer a superpower? Do tell. They walked over Iraq in about half an hour, crushed the Taliban in half that time, can project force anywhere in the world within a week, span the globe as an economic hegemon, and you're waiting for....ummmm....who, to fill this alleged vacuum of power? I do hope you're not American or this self-hate would be considered pathological.

Yes. Excellent. Then why are we arguing?

I find this whole evasive maneuvre on Momo's part to be ludicrous. Tell me Momo: do you think violence ever occurs because of race? Please don't quibble like some of your lesser intellect buddies and argue that violence isn't "solely" about race...do you ever think that race factors into violence? Would you say, for instance, that "Asian street gangs" are all Asian by co-incidence?

I won't even ask what pathetic supremist site you got that gem from.... Well, I got it from Ian Kershaw, among others. If you want to claim he's a racist, have at it. It's just a fact, Momo...something you probably have at least a passing acquaintance with in your travels.

A sitting president with his own profitmaking schemes and self-interests dressed as foreign policy is by far more dangerous. Please do elaborate.

Cool. I guess apartheid had nothing to do with race either. I can't wait until you take the time to rewrite the history of the world according to Momo, omitting all mention of race on the grounds that it has nothing to do with anything. You obviously haven't read up on the history of Rhodesia or you wouldn't be putting your foot in your mouth with that question.

"Racism" is a term used to silence opinion. It has no meaning whatsoever beyond that. In fact, you have gone on at length arguing that race doesn't even exist, and here you are using it as an excuse to shut other opinions up. In my view that should be more a bannable offence than exercizing free speech.