ScottSA

Can't recall saying anything about surrendering. Thanks for stopping by though. Oh, sorry. I misunderstood the reasons for you posting unending doom and gloom scenarios about Afghanistan, calling Harper's plan foolish, and scraping up every bit of anti-Afghanistan propaganda you can find and dumping it here. There must be another reason you're doing it. Care to share that reason with us?

Very excellent. Is that an original?

Uhoh, brace yourselve for the inevitable storm of post-colonial revisionist pap.

Okay, hang on , you moved the goalposts. Ok,Nigeria could be involved for all the reasons we both dont know. So what? Again, you asked if "whitey" sent them. And you were shown that they very well could have. And you have since deflected. I'm not moving the goalposts, I'm quoting from the article you supplied. How many "Whitey" Nigerians do you know? Yeah, it's possible that the RCMP cooperated with the Nigerian government to arrest some Whiteys in TO, but do you really believe that? More important, are you willing to entrench yourself even deeper in this ridiculous position by continuing to defend it?

How trite. One trying his best, but failing miserably, to insult me with the very words that are not contributing a thing to this thread. Hypocrisy....go look it up. All I'm saying is that your posts are indicative of an intellectual lightweight. You have all the annoying traits of one too, including going into full retreat claiming victory over your shoulder, or worse yet, actually believing that you won victories. I guess it's good for comic opera.

You're a disgrace to your country. You pledge allegiance to Israel instead of the country you live in and you even have the audacity to say Israel is the greatest country to live in. People like you shouldn't be allowed to vote. I don't agree with Harper much either and I also support the invasion of Afghanistan and I can't say that I don't disagree with his stance on Israel too much, but I'm looking out for Canada's best interests, unlike you. Many people in the U.S. government suffer from the same disgusting problem. The difference between them and you is that they abuse their power to help another country while knowing that the country they live in does not benefit one bit. Quite simply, you're a traitor. Better that, I suspect, than harry bollacks, but that's just me. It's great to have someone who I suspect is an undergrad who just discovered the realist paradigm in international studies join the forum, but must you come in as Sgt. Fury announcing his amazing Real Politic? Canada is allied with Israel for reasons that will benefit canada very much in the long run. Realism doesn't demand that one see immediate and obvious return from every action.

Odd that no one questions why the police presence is needed in such array. Of course that would be questioning the value of all those absolutely necessary immigrants, and we dare not do that.

Yes, but the point whizzed by so far above you that there was almost no danger of it being imbedded in your head. No no , its just that you are a lousy shot. It is you that missed the point. And that is you have no idea that the scams came from Nigeria do you ? You asked me if the emails are really from whitey. I replied yes in fact they very well could be, and provided a cite. Careful,you have already shot yourself once today. (editted to remove needless words) Lol...well, you keep thinking I've shot myself, and I'll keep chortling at you. Yes, I'm sure the Nigerian government is only involved because of...umm...well I don't really know. Perhaps you can shed some light on why Nigeria might be involved in this arrest in Canada?

I do hope this cliche is at least partly in jest.

People stuck with Churchill because he assured them of victory. He convinced people of his strategy and drew allies for his cause. Harper hasn't be able to do any of these three things. That's because people like you start a thread every day, like clockwork, clamouring for immediate surrender.

At least someone has some sense and wants sanity to reign. What on earth does Canada need with 130,000 or so soldiers? Does Harpie think that we should attend every war in the world and even start our own like his bud Bush does just to keep the "photo-ops" handy? Typically dishonest CBC reporting. Hillier said he doesn't plan to revive the Airborne, and says he doesn't want 14 new units, and CBC takes this and plasters it together to pretend Hillier is talking about not needing the increase Harper wants. In fact, all Hillier is saying is that he is going to expand the existing force structure to achieve what harper promised. The CBC made it sound as if Hillier said almost exactly the opposite of what he said.

Au contraire monsieur. If I think you are wrong, and can back it up, I will freely do so. You do your leftie compatriots a disservice by being such a prolific and lightweight poster. Your posts are for the most part yappy thread jammings with no substance.

Yes, but the point whizzed by so far above you that there was almost no danger of it being imbedded in your head.

Funny, shown that you are at least factually full of it and this goobledygook is your counter ? I never have juxtaposed abortion killing clinics against Islamic bombings to Christianity being no diff from Islam. Now you are really reaching. And you want to talk about silly equivalence. I cant even say nice try to this one. Then exactly what are you saying? That 4 people were arrested in TO ands therefore African scam letters are not African scam letters? Did you read the article you linked to? Did you see this? The RCMP acknowledged the help of the new government of Nigeria and the Central Bank of Nigeria in fighting this fraud. Why do you suppose the Nigerian government was involved? Just because? Do you suppose the names of the perps where Charles, Helga, and Franz? Or is it more likely they were African in origin?

It doesn't matter what the reasons for violence are if the factions of that violence line up along racial lines. The fact of that division is quite enough in and of itself. Obviously folks are not going to spontaneously combust and arise in a great flurry of violence "just because," and if and when violence occurs it will undoubtably be the result of long smoldering anger triggered by some event or long-lasting situation. But just because "race" doesn't form the totality of the cause doesn't mean race is somehow outside the cause. I really don't know why I keep allowing myself to be dragged into this violence thingy. It's not my central point, and I offered it only as one of several dark outcomes to our current immigration policies. Ultimately, as melanie said, you can "buy it" or not...since it's in the future none of us can claim it will or won't happen...I merely pointed out that given world history and the ongoing theme of racial disharmony everywhere and always, there's a very good chance that at some point violence will occur.

Exactly. The US is still squirming to get out of that one.

I take it you missed the term "economic" in my post, eh? And what is the darkly lurking psychological stimulous that brings to your mind penises in a thread about the US? I've heard of penis envy before...but...

Yes, Momo is a past master at trying to discredit the source of things he doesn't like...

This is complete BS. Violence ensues in response to a variety of stimuli. You've set the parameters of this thread as strictly dealing with skin color. As soon as you start bringing violence into the discussion you out-step your parameters. Whatever are you talking about? I "outstep" my parameters?

Thats the price of an international forum like the internet. As well as an increased means of spreading awareness of important issues and giving us more information than we would have been able to imagine before, it also gives us a window into the darkest corners of each others minds. For example, if you wanted to find some of the most vile vices the people around you harbor, it just takes one creative Google Search and you're there. We now live in the information age and with all of the ideas that could change the world for the better being put forth, there are bound to be remnants of past hatreds still looming around. The only way to deal with it is showing no tolerance to those who would spread hate speech by punishing them and taking away their privilege of expressing themselves online. What nonsense. Expressing oneself is not a priviledge whose access is to be determined by some star chamber of polical correctness. If someone pays for access to the internet, they should be able to say whatever they want. I never could understand this totalitarian streak that gallops through the left and rears its head at every opportunity. Why do you folks feel that you have the right to determine rightthink, and beyond that to enforce it?

A rule? What rule, or is it the "scottsa of rules "? Subtitled , " I pull this out of my nether regions when all is lost" Come on scottsa, its apparent, you proposed that the emails are from Africa , and I showed they could very well not be , and in fact could be from right here in TO. So how do you know they are from Africa ? You dont, and wont admit it. But thats ok, your insecurities have been well established around here. Oh and I had to edit.......Wiki....now who was it that chastised anyone for using Wiki....I seem to recall it was...oh yeah, it was scottsa. Are you the same guy? Hello pot...hows things? Are you speaking English or in tongues at the moment? If you are trying to say what I think you're trying to say, you're making the same silly equivalence argument as when you juxtapose a couple of abortion clinic killings against thousands of Islamic bombings in order to claim Christianity is no different from Islam. Silliness not worthy of debate.

Oops again.....they were from boiler rooms here in Toronto, at least likely they were.Here read this..... http://canadaonline.about.com/library/weekly/aa071401a.htm The tactic of finding one counterexample and trying to disprove a rule is facile at best. The 419 scam originated in the early 1980s as the oil-based economy of Nigeria went downhill. Several unemployed university students first used this scam as a means of manipulating business visitors interested in shady deals in the Nigerian oil sector before targeting businessmen in the west, and later the wider population. Early variants were often sent via letter, fax, or even Telex. The spread of email and easy access to email-harvesting software made the cost of sending scam letters through the Internet extremely cheap. In the 2000s, the 419 scam has spurred imitations from other locations in Africa and Eastern Europe. The number "419" refers to the article of the Nigerian Criminal Code (part of Chapter 38: "Obtaining Property by false pretences; Cheating") dealing with fraud.[3] The American Dialect Society has traced the term "419 fraud" back to 1992.[4] The advance fee fraud is a derivation of a much older scam dating back to 1588 in the form of a Spanish Prisoner scam.[5] The fictitious prisoner would promise to share non-existent treasure with the person who would send them money to bribe their guards. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_fee_fraud

ha ha, you should be a comedian. you've got a natural gift. Actually I'm quite serious. I find it very distracting.

I don't mind if these radical leftwing fools want to totter about "pondering" the state of the world; my only concern is if someone actually listens to them. The only saving grace is that their pondering days are short. Their name should be changed to "Geriatric Seniles with Rectally Ensconced Craniums."

Ah but lets celebrate "whitey" cultural diversity of serial killers , corporate fraud artist , boiler room ops. Ooops...tit for tat. Guess that wasn't planned. I take it those scam emails I get from Africa are really from Whitey? Lame...try again.