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She's talking about some woman in code pink being denied entry to canada because she has a criminal record, and code pink is trying to whip up indignity over it. The last thing we need is more leftists running around causing trouble.

No.

We should give it to the Glasgow bombers for not hurting anyone in their attempt to kill people.

Alrighty then. Is there a Nobel Prize for debating ability?

I think you're being unfair. I doubt that's enough for autonomic function, much less sentience. I would hazard a guess that some are in the high 90s.

Sure you're not thinking of the principate? I'd check my dates if I were you...this ain't the siege of Bombay or whatever that Peloponny thing yer talking about is, y'know...

I think we should warmong and steal candy from children. Oh, and help Ann baptize everyone too, except for me, because I'm too good to pay homage to some guy who died a couple thousand years ago. I think we should not only deny Code Pink access to Canada, we should take their boots and make them walk back barefoot. We didn't actually set up the peace corps, since the evil empre down south did, but hey, let's take credit for it anyway, just as we do for everything else good that comes our way because of the evil empire next door.

I reject out of hand your premise of "exploitation," natch, but even pretending for a moment that it has merit beyond a simple propagandistic proclamation, the first part of the sentence above is the crux. "Hope" is the basis for the entire multi-racial immigration plan, and the hopes are not panning out particularly well, since we're well on our way to Balkanizing our country. There are strong parallels between our multicultural experiment and a similar experiment by the Romans in Gaul, when they willingly let several tribes in on the proviso that they pay homage to Rome. It worked well enough until the Roman economic and political system began to constrict, and then Rome lost control. In the words of Walter Goffart, "When set in a fourth century perspective, what we call the fall of the Western Roman Empire was an imaginative experiment that got a little out of hand." And so, I believe, is what will happen here, and the Indians will be among the losers as well. There is no more Rome, and all its obligations went with it.

Hey, I actually agree with that. Wow.

Actually, it may be important, but since there is absolutely nothing to do about it except adapt, putting out ridiculously overblown horror flicks is hardly a boon to humanity and far from deserving of a Nobel Prize. Once upon a time a Nobel Peace Prize meant something, like when my dad's colleague won it for feeding billions of people, but now it's simply used to feed the latest leftwing or anti-American fad.

You have just demonstrated it's single-issuedness by breaking down the single issue into subcategories and claiming that therefore it's not a single issue. Rather like starting a "Car Party" and then, when challenged that it's a single issue party, pointing out that bumpers, windshields and wheels are seperate issues, and therefore the party covers a broad spectrum. The "Green" Party is even named for its issue. Obviously its tip o' the hat to other issues is simply plastered on rhetoric, as evidenced by the confusion over its ideological base; you claim it's anti-capitalist, while jennie thinks it's pro-business, and Shavluk thinks it's stoned or something.

For some, perhaps. Not most. Vernon, nestled snugly in the Okanagan valley amidst birdsong, summer breeze, golden sun, fields of waving bud, and bathtubs full of meth, is a haven for the lumpenproletariat, who show up here every summer and make the downtown streets and parks a disaster. When winter comes they all crawl back under their various rocks in crackhouses, low-end motels, and one of three shelters, and commence whining for the duration of winter. Most of the people I have seen are druggies, not mental cases, and they ooze out at night and lurk about in back alleys doing whatever the lumpenproletariat do in backalleys. One thing their lurking doesn't involve is paying taxes or producing anything but hepatitus and AIDs. And every year a lady named Annette Sharkey, the Vernon homeless Czar or whatever she's styled herself, sets up a caterwauling about how horrible it is for the homeless, while the local Womyn's Center bellyaches about the war on women and the poor illdoneby "sex trade workers." But why should I subsidize these morons? They're big and strong enough to make careers out of B&E, and certainly well rested, judging from the heaps in parks all summer long, so the very least they could do is pick fruit. If they have to import labor from Mexico to pick the fruit here, it's a fair bet they could find something of value to do.

Slavery in Europe? Where? Oh, do you mean the Islamic immigrants?

I know nothing about rail, but don't the distances involved make North America a very different ballgame than Europe?

Tell me something Jennie...when all those "new" Canadians outnumber us old Canadians, how do you think they're gonna respond to "first" Canadian's demands for retribution and wergeld for something they didn't have anything to do with?

Well, looking back at the PMO of Chretien's majority tenure, I suspect Harper would have to pretty much turn into Caligula to compete.

I'm trying to find something marginally sequitous to respond to here. Speaking only for one arrogant man, I have kids too, you know. They don't actually stay in childbirth.

I don't think this helps your case at all. First, was he from the Rapture cult, since that's what we're talking about? No? Oh well then, was he a Christian killing for his God? No again? So after all that furious googling looking for "Christian killings" all over the globe, you found nothing, and so had to turn to "racist" killings to actually find something? And then you dug up some teenager in Belgium who went on a shooting spree? And this helps your attempt to equate Rapture Cultists to Muslim terrorists how?

No it hasn't come. Sorry. Are you being sincere, as in: the US would come if it could; or sarcastic, as in: the US wouldn't come even if it could; or do you mean something else entirely? It's not clearly stated.

No surprise here... Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.54 I found one question particularly revealing. I'd never heard it put quite that way before...something along the lines of "coming to terms with the establishment is a mark of maturity." I think it very probably is, although as i said, I've never seen it put quite that way before.

These silly spoiled women who like to dress in pink and do whatever one wants to call the things they do in the name of "peace" seem to feel now that they're above the law. They apparently attempted to come up here to spread sedition, and our border guards said no. Now they're trying to whip up a tizzy in their ever-dwindling band of followers because they "find it unacceptable" that we won't let criminals in. This from a CP email I just got. I'm sure it's on their website as well: "Canada used to be a haven for peace activists during the Vietnam era, a place where Americans could go to escape the madness of war. No longer. On October 4, 2007, CODEPINK co-founder Medea Benjamin and Retired Colonel/ diplomat Ann Wright were denied entry to Canada because they have engaged in acts of non-violent civil disobedience against the war in Iraq. The Canadian border officials said the women's names appeared on the FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database, and anyone convicted of a criminal offense, including a minor misdemeanor for peace and social justice, was "inadmissible." This, to us, is unacceptable. We can't sit back and watch our civil liberties erode, one by one. We can't sit back and let peace activists be treated like dangerous criminals..." Actually, I think that traitoresses and seditionists should be treated as rather worse than criminals, but hey, that's just me.

Well sure, and if they followed Jewish kids home to see who their parents were, and hid in the closets of Jewish homes, and imported lists from Nazi archives, I'm sure there'd be grounds for panic too, but until such time as we have the slightest bit of evidence that anything even slightly untoward occured, why don't we just call a card a card? Gawd, I can't believe the legs this silly thread has.

Mr. Layton: Given that democracy presupposes a demos; that is, a group of people sharing a fundamental similarity of purpose (eg "freedom," "order," etc), do you believe that an official policy of multiculturalism, defined as an encouragement to pursue one's own culture (beyond facile representations of "street festivals" and so on) is at odds with democracy? I direct your attention to persistent and declared efforts by such Islamic organizations as Cair-Can and others to institute Sharia in Canada, and to the recent creation of what seems to be a Chinese race-based political party in Vancouver. While these efforts may seem insignificant at this stage in our history, do you believe they contribute to democracy or work against it?

What exactly are you asking?

It's interesting that one of the arguments trotted out by the left in opposition to the mission in Afghanistan has been the resurgence of the opium industry following the invasion, an argument inevitably punctuated by the observation that our enemies had supposedly stamped it out. Now it appears that some on the left are also against its restamping out. It must feel wonderful to be able to emote against the injustice of a thing, and in the next breath emote against its cure.