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Bad analogy white doors. Depleted Uranium shells are lethal, just as lethal, as exposure to readiation from a nuclear blast. Most certainly there is not the instantaneious deaths for those close to the centre of a nuclear explosition, but the damage is the same. The induction of DU weapons in 1991 in Iraq, the radio-active trash from nuclear plants broke a 46 year taboo. This Trojan Horse of nuclear war, an omnicidal weapon has since then continued to be used more and more. DU remains radioactive longer than the age of the earth ( estimated at 4.5 billion years. ) The long-term effects from over a decade of DU exposures are emerging in Southern Iraq. They are devastating. The increased quantities of radio-active material ( including non-depleted uranium), used in Afghanistan are 3 to 5 times greater than Iraq 199. In Iraq 2003 they are already estimated to be 6 to 10 times 1991 and will travel through a larger area and affect many more people, babies and unborn. Countries within a 1000 mile radius of Baghdad and Kabul are being affected by radiation poisoning , that includes the Capital, New Delhi, where the ruling elite lives. The reported coming of an AIDS epidemic last year in India , down wind, may have a relationship to DU bombing in Afghanistan. If we think cancer is a problem now wait until more DU is released in wars against terror and for regime change, on mistaken Intelligence reports. More than 500 tons of DU munitions have been dispensed in Afghanistan. Professor Yagasaki calculated that 800 tons of DU is the atomicity equivalent to 83,000 Nagasaki bombs in a paper presented at the World Uranium Weapons Conference in Hamburg in October 2003 ( 5 months ago ). The amount of DU used in Iraq in 2003 is equivalent to nearly 250,000 Nagasaki bombs ( Busby and Leuren Moret have calculated that 1900 tons of DU is equivalent to 60 TBq of Alfa and Beta particulate activity). We need not ennumerate the DU munition types used in Iraq 199, Kosovo 1999, Afghanistan 2001-04 and Iraq 2003. They have been dispensed by all air / ground and sea systems on innocent civilians. DU burns intensely and is very hard. It releases Uranium Oxide. The aerosol contains particles of 0.5-5 microns in size, once they are in the air or dust they are inhaled or ingested, including from contaminated soil. Once in the lungs one such particle is equivalent to having one XRay per hour, for life. Because it is impossible to remove, the victim is gradually irradiated. Still births, birth defects, leukemia, damaged central nervous systems and other cancers have been common in children born since 1991. Child leukemia has risen 600 % in areas of Iraq as reported by the Netherland Visie Foundation. Beyond just the health consequences, DU munitions are in fact, weapons of Silent Mass Destruction in so far as the consequences of their usage are vast, indiscriminate and violate all Human Rights Conventions . Tora Bora , Kabu , Paktia , Karises or underwater supply tunnels have been contaminated forever. All this has been documented in a comprehensive paper Uranium wars : The Pentagon steps up its use of Radio-active Munitions, by Marc W. Herold to whom this paper owes sincere acknowledgement. http://www.thepowerhour.com/articles/du_effects.htm

What do you not get about the fact that any abortion laws presented would not meet the Charter litmus test? There are NO partial birth abortions taking place in Canada. Again throwing up a red herring. Partisian rhetoric? What partiansh rhetoric please do provide proof of partisianship. The only partisian rhetoric that I see, is the continual insistance that some's personal beliefs should over rule other's very real Charter Rights and Freedoms.

More news out today regarding the USA's complicite actions in bringing about tensions with Iran. So then just what are Israels and the USA administrations motives in inciting nedless tensions? 2003 Memo Says Iranian Leaders Backed Talks " http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7021301363.htmland then this: http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001941.php

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It seems that people who are in the minority, this would be those pushing for deep integration and the creating of a one huge super continent country under US control, and who support the CPC, somehow think that they are a majority. Here is a news flash you are not!

By that, they really don't give two shits about what you think. That is obvious. Or else they would have laid down the weapons and succumbed to the all might powerfull USA. We got time. Go ahead. I will wait a couple days and let you prepare your statements. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-P...feration_Treaty So by nuking Iran, the US would violate the NPT and NWS agreements. Also being a NPT state, the US has already violated it's agreements by supplying nuclear technology to Isreal and India. NON PROLIFERATION means, you don't give this stuff to anyone else. ANYONE ELSE. On this note, the US wants to attack Iran before the nuclear programme is in full swing. Seeing how the US deals with North Korea (OMFG AXIS OF EVIL!!!) They have been in 'talks' for the last few years now. No headway at all there. So why TALK to NORTH KOREA, but supply the hypocritical rhetoric of BOMB IRAN NOW !!!!!!. Continuing from Wiki So Iran can have a peaceful nuclear programme like they state. And really this did not prevent North Korea from possessing nukes. India and Pakistan did not seem to get the same rhetoric with OMG THEY ARE BUILDING NUKES !!!! Has either one used them? No, they have them to prevent the other from attacking. So really all this NPT talk is just, useless. Aren't bunker busters just some small form of nuclear weapon? Wait for it ..... http://www.ucsusa.org/global_security/nucl...-animation.html http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200502/s1298463.htm Eventhough the project had been axed, they were developing Nuclear bunker Busters. How many of these things have been used around the world? Not to mention Isreal got a huge load of Bunker Busters http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=3748 Hey, aren't A-10 Warthogs using DEPLETED URANIAM in their ammo? Hmmm. Absolutely hypocritical of anyone saying Iran does not deserve to develople a nuclear programme (civilian or military) and then tout the USA for being the good guy. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-09...ael-nukes_x.htm continuing from the article This is why I don't see an issue with Iran and nuclear weapons. Considering how much depleted uranium is being scattered around by A-10a and Bunker Busters. Depleted Uraniam is still dangerous and very radio active. So how about them morals?? Very informative post thank you. I too am awaiting response

You just supported exactly what I said, when you said "the abortion law that they argued about did not pass the litmus test of the charter". And there it ended, because NO abortions laws would pass the litmus test of the Charter of Rights. This is because of the Charter reasons the SCC had used to state rejection of the one put forth. I do grow tired of your false accusations, when apparently you, yourself know exactly what the SCC said. Really what is going on is that you believe your personal beliefs should over rule others Charter rights and nothing more.

Good, then you agree with those Jews in the British Isles, that say Zionist Israel has no right to speak for ALL Jews across the world. And indeed Zionist Israel's ideology is NOT representative of ALL Jews around the world.

Yes white doors, it is obvious that radical ideology so warps some minds so much that they cannot grasp the fact that Afghans want the USA et al out. Umm no, Afghans do not want us, what has been shown is that the western backed Karzi government wants us there. Much proof has been provided here that Afghans themselves want ALL occupiers gone. This is also proven by the continued increased support for those fighting to get the occupiers out of Afghanstan, by regular Afghans themselves. Again, the Afghan feminists DO NOT want us there either, so please do stop trying to expropriate their voices. It is terrible that a western male would try to steal Afghan women's voices to support their colonialistic opinions. http://www.rawa.org/events/dec10-06_e.htm

Wrong again. Don;t you get tired of being wrong all the time? There is currently NO abortion laws in Canada. None. Ergo there are no 'rights' based in law. The absence of any statutes is not an absense of all law. wha? There is no law period. stop putlling shit out of your arse and calling it a diamond. Yes, you are correct there are no abortions laws in Canada, and correctly so. As was explained to you over and over. The SCC stated that abortion laws could NOT be created, because they would be contrary to Rights and Freedoms in Canada. Ergo, there can never be abortion laws in Canada. Our Rights and Freedoms supercede all else.

I agree, there is legitimate criticism of Israel which is not anti-semitic, but it is pervasive and I quoteP: Profoundly anti-Israel views are increasingly finding support in progressive intellectual communities. Serious and thoughtful people are advocating and taking actions that are anti-semitic in their effect if not their intent. Lawrence Summers, 17 September 2002 Of course there is criticism and it is not anti-Israel in the manner which it is being suggested by yourself, and Mr Summers. The criticism orginates and is strongest coming from within Israel itself and with good reason. http://www.ameu.org/page.asp?iid=35&aid=427&pg=1

Why would you punish him for treason because of his families actions his families actions? When did he fight against Canadians? What war? Hillier said we are NOT at WAR?

All those people living on kibbutzim will be fascinated by your facile, internet-forum-generated stereotypes. The neo-nazis will just be confused. **snerk**

Personally, I would sooner take the words expressed publicly, from well respected and world renowned Jews, rather than from a made up moniker at mapleleaf forums, as I am sure most rational people would. From the first page statement by world prominent Jews:

Apparently, if it takes all that, the "peoples' who country we are trying to rebuild in the image we want it to be, really do not want us to do so. It is amazing, that some think the west has the right to try and make other countries be what they want them to be as opposed to how the peoples of the actual country want it to be. Thought we had learned from our colonialistic mistakes long ago.

Really, and where did you find this out at? And exactly why is it important? And I seem to remember and adage about quality versus quantity. Wow. A nastygram!!! What a surprise coming from you!!! Nothing nasty about it, or did you miss the winkie? But the questions were serious, as you feel it is important that you have a top 10 position in greatest number of posts and you started a thread ALL about you. What does this signify to you? Why is it important to you? Did you consider longevity at the forum, lack of longevity at the forum, quality of what is put forth, just quantity, or is it a meanless stat?

Why do some other nations go into a country and destroy and kill 10's of thousands based upon lies and greed? Now that is true cruelty.

geoffery, you seem not to be very well informed as the ACTUAL events as they occured, please do start with this snap shot, I provided before, and do read the links. You might find it helpful to form an accurate opinion. Plus there are many more facts upon the ground you seem also not to be aware of. It is unfortunate when people have a ill founded view of events, and turn then it against people, who may, or may not deserve it.

So, you are not talking about Life Insurance then are you??? Here is a little hint, when we talk about Oranges, dont talk about margarine....k..? Yes, as a matter of fact I am, had a close read at the wording, this is nullified if suicide occurs after 12 months from policy start date. But apparently, this is not always the case either, if your medical records show you may have been suicidal at the time of purchase of the life insurance. .

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There are NO elected officials sitting on the judiciary panel. They are UNPAID appointees, who backed the CPC.

Why are you putting the ALL the onus on the Palestinians? And how about getting Israel to try and live a peaceful co-existence, as well? geoffery, respectfully, please do read, learn, and expand as a human being about Israel. Israel is not just the harmed one in this circumstance. Labeling this act right and this act wrong in this situation is incorrect, simple theory only works for simple minds.

Thank you for your reply. The prospect you describe seems like a very sweeping and significant change for Afghanistan, even if the Taliban weren't part of the mix. Can it be achieved with current levels of action and expense? I'm not as sure as you are. But beyond that, I still question why it should be Canadian lives and money spent on this exercise. It shouldn't be Canadian lives and money, and no it cannot be achieved and should never have been entered into.

So why are you advocating a course of action that has a strong possibility of negatively impacting our security? Mind boggling isn't it?

The Decima survey, provided to The Canadian Press, Liberals – 33 per cent CPC - 32 per cent – which is within the 3.1 percentage point margin of error. NDP - 15 per cent, Bloc Quebecois - 9 Green party - 8 The poll suggests the Liberal lead in Ontario has shrunk to four percentage points, compared with an 18-point gap at the start of the month. But the margin of error is greater on the Ontario numbers because of the smaller sample size. The Bloc Quebecois held a huge lead in Quebec at 42 per cent, compared with 21 per cent for the Liberals and 17 per cent for the Tories. http://www.thestar.com/News/article/181244