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I do not support the Province putting an 8% tax on fuel.

The LPC stole $48 Billion from EI and the CPC $8 Billion. This wasn't a "special debt reduction tax". If you want a special "Debt reduction tax" then create one. The money Stolen from EI needs to be restored, that is $56Billion, is to be used to support and help those people who paid into it. But the bottom line is, if the Money contributed by employers and employees wasn't diverted to debt reduction, then those juicy tax cuts for the billionaires wouldn't have been possible unless the government was interested in running a deficit. The government has allocated more money to bailout the banks then they have for the hundreds of thousands of people who lose their jobs each month.

My mind is made up on this. It is a tax grab by a government in need of extra revenue. The Ontario Government is simply expanding their catchment areas, and using the GST as the means to do so. I have spoke with many small businesses and their opinion is mixed. Especially as they have yet to see any details. Most businesses dealing with one another are PST exempt. Will there be less paperwork? Possibly. But I just did the rounds this weekend, and few people are jumping up and down for joy. But they are hopping mad, or visibly upset with the government. I jumped on that early

The Harmonization of the Sales tax won't save one damn job. !!!

1) I don't believe Conservatives are against free speech. 2) This is about barring Galloway from Canada for "Security Reasons". And the government looks like retards when Galloway is travelling around the US freely, and is banned here. Regarding "Free Speech", I fully expect this extra media attention to Galloway will provide him the opportunity to address those in Canada from US airwaves. Now, if you are suggesting that the Conservative Government is interested in blocking his speech, that would be interesting. But for the current time, only Canada appears to have Galloway as a security threat. And for that Canada is getting viewed as a mini USSR wannabe, state.

No, you need to drink more of it Use that $1,000 installment to buy your precious Lakeport. Infact.... a wiseman told me this. If we received that $1,000 last year and invested it in Nortel, we would have $14 today. If we took that $1,000 last year and invested it in cases of Lakeport, and drank all the beer with your friends. You could return the empties and have $57. It's not often that Mikedavid00 and I agree on something, but what I will say, is that MikeDavid00 sounds like alot of people I am bumping into in the coffeeshops and they are not buying into the Liberal Salespitch/

You will be drafting up a new data 10 years from now. It sure as hell isn't going to back up the data of the past. The budget is a piece of shit. It is reckless to confuse a national GST tax grab with a Provincial Harmonization Tax Grab. The intent of the GST was to make manufacturing more competitive and put the burden upon consumers. A tax was moved from industry to services. This is just the Provincial Governments way of expanding their tax base while Industries flee the Province and hundreds of thousands of people are thrown out of work. Regardless, this retarded idea is not taking effect until next year. There isn't even any details available on how this merger of the tax is supposed to work. What I do know, is that if all goes well, the Ontario Liberals will know how the 1993 Progressive Conservatives felt after 2 majority terms, and taking people to the cleaners with Higher Taxes and Record Breaking Deficits, that are 50% higher then the horrors of Bob Rae.

I am not aware of any other time in Canadian History where an MP from the United Kingdom has been denied access to Canada. Even more pathetic is that this MP is travelling freely in the United States. If Canada has some proof, they had better issue it to our US neighbours in good faith. Otherwise the Conservatives are blowing smoke out there asses. They look like a bunch of retards.

Um, that you might actually vote in an election?

The Liberals are cutting taxes for those making the most money. They are increasing their regressive tax that has a larger negative effect on the poor and working poor. This should just about kill low to middle class consumption.

That's right, people are losing their jobs so, we need to tax heating oil, and more tax on Gasoline. We need to tax alot more items, because people are suffering.

$14 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT in Ontario... $57 BIllion Projected. (NUTS)

At an aquantances place of work, he put in a full 8 plus extra. Each day for the past year, three employees would stop working at 1:30pm. He went and complained to management. He was working early and late and could barely keep up to the volume. He kept his head above water. It would be alot easier if some of these other guys would give him a hand. It never happened. He asked management to get these guys working. After just over a year, of watching 3 employees take long lunches and stop working at 1:30pm everyday, he finally had enough. He quit after his 8 years with this company. Why? The guys laughed, acted cocky, wouldn't do the work, and said they would never be laid off. This was in a non union shop. I expect it to be out of business within 6 months in this climate and that kind of management.

If you are a human being with eyes, you will see people taking advantage of a situation. I can find many people in every level of management and shop floor worker who take advantage of other peoples labour. Did they not have a boss? Does this company not have management, foreman, supervisors, or someone with the ability to discipline or fire those who do not perform their work as required? Do you work in a poorly run company that fails to make people perform their contractual duties? If they were laid off, layoffs are because of a lack of work, not because the workers are lazy. If you have a lack of work, and you work in a union shop with a skills and abilities provision, if the less senior workers didn't have a superior case, then yes, the most senior are kept. If they fail to do their dutys they can be disciplined up to and including termination. I see this all the time, it works very effectively. And then those less Senior workers can return and do the duties that some were not so inclined to perform. The company was in error. The Union doesn't bring back employees. That is done in an arbitration setting where the contract is ruled upon. If the company wanted to get rid of these said individuals, they went about it the wrong way. Very amatuer mistake. All should have been fired. One guy is lucky. I would never allow a petty thief to remain in my employ, under any circumstances. The bond of trust is broken. Become a steward. You sound like you have a head on your shoulders. Or if you are management, make certain you have evidence and grounds to terminate an employee. I saw was a company that embellished a termination in mid arbitration. The person was in a car accident and severely injured. After 6 months the benefits were cut off by the company insurance company. Their meat charts had suggested that the said employee should be healed of his injuries by this time. However the doctors, and specialists all concurred that there was significant damage and the current medication made returning to work a danger. The company was not offering any light duties and wanted this tradesperson to come to work and lift 45lb dies and work on them. (They are not a piece of cake to work on). What the company decided to do, was that based upon the Insurance companies decision to terminate benefits, they felt that the employee must be fit enough to return to work. They gave the employee 3 days to return to work for full time rotating shifts. If he failed to report, he was to be terminated. The employee showed up, and hobbling around, soon realized he couldn't do the work. He was terminated. The case was going very very well for the company. But then, out of the blue, the company introduced new evidence that the said person was a thief, and was stealing carbide to suppliment his income. The Union was rocked. The case wasn't going well, and the union wanted nothing to do with a theif. The company provided the evidence. They had cut the lock off the employees toolbox, (it was still at the company because he physically able to take it away), and with no witnesses present the foreman discovered carbide inserts worth a small fortune in the toolbox, and promptly showed it to the plant manager. The evidence was submitted. The union in its heels, the company about to win hands down. Except one problem, the dates are printed on the carbide inserts both when they are made and by whom. The inserts weren't made by anyone in the plant. The dates on those inserts were over 6 weeks after the terminated employee had last set foot in the plant. It was a frame job, credibility of the company lost and the fall guy was the supervisor acting on the companies behalf. The company lost, the employee was able to return to work when able. The benefits were never reinstated, and the employee had alot of out of pocket expenses including medical over the next few months. Upon returning to work the employee then work, 4 hours then 6 hours then 8 hours until returning to full duties. Shortly after getting some strength and monetary security back, the employee left for a better company, because he didn't trust the one where he got his job back. A good toolservice person was lost over some peoples petty beliefs about how long it takes to recover from an major auto accident. And a supervisor lost his job over doing the companies bidding. For every story you have of the puppy mill, I will match on the backs of good workers.

http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/608870 14.1 billion deficit is largest in the history of Ontario TORONTO STAR FILE PHOTO Ontario has taken the lion’s share of job losses in Canada. Budget speech word cloud $56.8B deficit over seven years Here are highlights of Finance Minister Dwight Duncan’s budget: — $56.8-billion deficit over seven years as province grapples with global economic downturn. — A harmonized 13 per cent sales tax beginning July 1, 2010 that will raise costs on a myriad of goods and services, including home heating oil. — A family with an income of $160,000 or less to get $1,000, spread over three payments starting June 2010, to ease transition to new sales tax. — A single person with an income of $80,000 or less to get $300 to ease transition. — $32.5 billion for infrastructure spending over two years, including $5 billion from Ottawa, to sustain some 300,000 jobs. — $4.5 billion in tax relief for business over three years through corporate income tax cuts. — Income tax cut for 93 per cent of Ontario taxpayers, including an average 10 per cent cut for people earning less than $80,000. — Ontario Child Benefit accelerated, giving low- and middle-income families up to $1,100 per year per child. — Total budget spending of $108.9 billion for 2009-10 with a $14.1-billion deficit. Mar 26, 2009 04:49 PM Comments on this story (91) Richard J. Brennan OTTAWA BUREAU The Liberal government released a big-spending budget today featuring the largest deficit in Ontario history and a new blended sales tax that will make everyone's wallet a little lighter. In an attempt to fight the recession, the government is rolling out record infrastructure spending of $27.5 billion plus $5 billion from Ottawa to create jobs, more than $10 billion in tax cuts and a couple of billion dollars more in sales tax.

I concur with that statement. This isn't going to do jack squat for any manufacturer. BTW. Gammas are better.

It's ok Wild Bill. You weren't really drifting, but actually filling in some missing pieces. And those points are valid. It would be interesting to see what would happen under a different voting system. Would this be enough to entice you into a PR system over an FPTP system?

So very true. BTW FOX NEWS SUCKS!!!

MikeDavid00 is back and blowing a gasket, and this time, I am with you. This is a dirty, sneaky, poor punishing budget, that sticks it to the lower and middle class. It makes me sick. Possibly just as damaging is the lack of response from the PCs who don't know if they are coming or going on the Harmonizing. This is a big, big, big tax grab and they are taking from the poorest to feed the the government and the governments rich friends. This is going to kill what is left of the Ontario Economy. McGuinty and is Finance Minister Dwight Duncan are out to lunch fat cats. Families are going to suffer, and those cheques aren't going to do squat, once people add up how much the government has pickpocketed from them. Welfare for the Rich, Taxes for the Poor.

While I disagree with the CHP on many issues, the CHP have some excellent policies. I am not certain if the CHP would be represented in a PR system. That would be a wasted vote, if you believe that votes are wasted. I know for a fact that those 500 die hard CHP voters show up every election and not once have their supporters indicated they are wasting their vote.

It is a fact that people find better things to do then vote. I could preach PR till the cows come home, and voter turnout isn't going to change. Voting is an activity that nearly half of Canadians don't believe in. "I don't vote" means I DON'T VOTE. It doesn't mean, I don't vote because of the system. In fact, taken to extremes, I know a person who believes that if he doesn't vote the system will collapse. I don't believe in politics or I don't trust politicians, or they are all out to screw me, or it doesn't matter who I vote for they all do the same thing, is commonly heard. Non Participants are non participants. Getting people interested is difficult at the best of time. PR could give voter turnout a bump. But I wouldn't expect the voter turnout like we see in other countries. If you want voter turnout, mandate it like in Australia.

Unfortuneately you don't understand the situation. A person from outside the riding came in banged the drums and in a very short period of time, got a solid following. If the net is wider, it could well give him the extra votes, as there are people who share that mindset, but their votes have never been able to be brought into a heavy concentration. You have suggested, not me, that it is easier for independants to get elected, and whereas it is very unlikely for McHale to overthrow Dianne Finley, a PR system could give him a larger platform. I don't want to see that person sitting in the HOC. As for the Media, they created McHale. Gave him alot of publicity. And yes they knew exactly what he was about. Media didn't only start to notice him, they haven't found the "ingore" button yet. He has been on Local Television, radios and newpapers and it was this publicity that led to his parachuting into the riding. But, thanks for downplaying what could happen in a PR system. Quite Frankly he could get elected in a FPTP system with a minority of the vote. But he would have to do alot more then beat the Green Party, or nip at the heels of the NDP. He would actually have to beat the machines of the LPC and CPC.

Ah you looked!!! Well, they are not happy campers .... Guess we are going to find out who is 'master of their domain"

I would have preferred the cartoon had him in a play pen.

Isn't that great?