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Good points "The unity government is also aimed at regaining Western recognition and aid, both of which disappeared when the Hamas-led government assumed power last year. But the West should not be fooled: The deal signed by the two groups in Mecca last week makes no mention of either recognition for Israel or a renunciation of violence against the Jewish state -- both of which properly have been red-line issues for the international community. The Americans weren't fooled by this latest ploy. They have repeated their position that any Palestinian government that does not recognize Israel will be shunned. Wednesday's decision by Congress to block the transfer of US$86-million to Fatah security forces sends a clear message that should be echoed by Canada and the European Union. The fundamental problem for Palestinians living in Gaza is not the Israelis, who are long gone, but their own leaders, who put enmity toward Jews ahead of the Palestinians' own welfare. Until that changes, the Palestinians will continue to suffer."

Quick post..... take a look and take the quiz http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.h...35-7360b11f24dd Are you a liberal anti-Semite? Take this quiz and find out! JOE LANZMANN, National Post Published: Friday, February 16, 2007 After years of rising concern about left-wing anti-Semitism, The New York Times reported recently about a study for the American Jewish Committee. Written by professor Alvin Rosenfeld of Indiana University, the study describes the spread of a virulent anti-Zionism in many quarters of the Western left that has helped legitimate anti-Semitism. Some people have seized on the study to argue that these extreme anti-Zionists are really anti-Jewish bigots. Critics reply that criticizing Israel, even harshly, doesn't prove animus toward the Hebrew people.

Maybe he'll put forward a quick budget with lots of tax cuts during the 60 day period mentioned in the private members bill. Then the opposition will have to bring down the gov't, thus forcing a vote, give the CPC a majority then they can trash this pathetic bill

Hmmm, shouldn't be too hard considering that Canada doesn't have a political party who's main voter core are social/neo-conservatives, (unless you are considering the CHP) maybe that is why you find it confusing.

I wish..... or maybe I'm a U.S. mole ROTFLMAO There's lots of stuff out there, abut peddling hysterical sentiment http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/st...6a-5a286a5b374c This is particularly good considering how the alarmists are hyping up GW, maybe they have special interests huh http://www.torontosun.com/Comment/2007/02/...627010-sun.html Here is the process Sowell describes by which the liberal "anointed" -- who typically believe they alone possess the wisdom to govern -- constantly seek to impose their views on society. Judge for yourself whether Sowell's four-step process accurately reflects how the Liberals have handled this issue. Stage 1: The anointed declare "the crisis" in which, Sowell observes, "some situation exists, whose negative aspects the anointed propose to eliminate. Such a situation is routinely characterized as a 'crisis' even though all human situations have negative aspects ..." 'It pays to shop when others don't' - The Nightowl - Stage 2: "The solution" is proposed in which "policies to end the 'crisis' are advocated by the anointed" who dismiss claims by critics that their proposals won't work or may even make things worse as "absurd and 'simplistic,' if not dishonest." Stage 3: "The results" reveal "the solution" chosen by the anointed either didn't work, or made things worse. Stage 4: The anointed give "the response" to their critics, in which they dismiss them for being "simplistic" and for "ignoring the 'complexities' involved as 'many factors' went into determining the outcome." Now consider how the issue of man-made global warming played out in Canada under the Liberals. more

How ironic, are we supposed to believe that judicial appts. by the Liberals were beyond the realm of partisan politics before the CPC took over. The process has always been partisan, and in fact the previous Liberal gov't gave most positions on the fed courts to Liberal lawyers. But gee, the opposition and its media lapdogs would have us believe that this is only a CPC initiative. Too bad the Liberals weren't as concerned about judicial independence when they were the government. Mind you, the 16 out of 33 federal appointments are not going to be Fed Judges, but somehow this translates into "tampering" with the judicial system. from the NP "Yet consider the Liberals' record. As Allison Hanes reports in today's Post, the Liberals themselves put plenty of partisans on the committees that vet bench appointments. Moreover, Benoit Corbeil, former executive director of the Liberals' Quebec wing, testified before the Gomery inquiry two years ago that it was well known in that province's legal circles that the fast way to the bench was to campaign on behalf of the Liberal party. Nearly half of the 20 lawyers who volunteered for the 2000 election became judges in the three years that followed." http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.h...8f4c2c633f2&p=2 Montreal's The Gazette to examine all of the federal judges appointed in Quebec between 2000 and 2005. What the paper found was that 60% of judicial appointees had campaigned for, donated to or run on behalf of the Liberals in the five years before their appointments to their $220,000- a-year jobs, which are secure until age 75. If lawyers appointed from the universities and the civil service were excluded, fully three-quarters of all Quebec judges had been Liberals before being elevated to the bench. he Ottawa Citizen found a similar pattern in Ontario, Alberta and Saskatchewan -- the three provinces it examined in its own investigative report. Nearly two-thirds of lawyers there had recent ties to the Liberals before being made federal judges. Few had any ties whatsoever to other parties. In Alberta -- hardly a Liberal hotbed -- Liberal lawyers were four times as likely to be appointed than were Conservatives. And it is not just judicial appointments that have been dominated by the Liberals and their supporters. The highly biased Court Challenges Program, the law reform commissions, legal journals, law schools, federal and provincial bar associations are all influential players on the Canadian legal landscape. And all swing far more to the left than the right. To the extent Conservative committee appointments do have any substantive impact on jurisprudence, it would merely constitute a badly needed corrective....... hmmmmm

Clearly the Stern report has been debunked http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,2...94-7583,00.html Unfortunately, this claim falls apart when one reads the 700-page tome. Despite using many good references, the Stern Review on the Economics of Climate Change is selective and its conclusion flawed. Its fear-mongering arguments have been sensationalised, which is ultimately only likely to make the world worse off.

Speaking of thin, did you read the drivellous screed against them that scriblett linked to? A load of empty-headed vituperance if ever there was. pot - black or more than likely anything you disagree with is 'vituperance' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3586543.stm Anti-Semitism 'on rise in Europe' Desecration at a London synagogue Attacks against synagogues have been documented Attacks against Jews in Europe have sharply increased, says a report by a European anti-racism watchdog. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3502019.stm http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/40258.htm he increasing frequency and severity of anti-Semitic incidents since the start of the 21st century, particularly in Europe, has compelled the international community to focus on anti-Semitism with renewed vigor

I recommend as I stated earlier (and as others have said) that they recognize Israel and its right to exist without living under threat of genocide; that they quit turning their kids into human bombs and generally quit murdering innocent Israelis; that they quit teaching that Israelis are 'apes and pigs' etc. etc. If by this, it means the submersion and eradication of their cultural identity (which actually is what?) then that would be a good thing, and maybe give their young people a chance at a decent life and a new and improved cultural identity. It is very simple, if they do these things there would be peace and a good chance of statehood. Personally I wonder if a Palestinian state could ever be anything other than the same old same same old, recent polls have shown that 80% of Palestinians approve of suicide bombings. Just think what that mind set would do with additional funding which could give them new and improved lethal powers. One thing that needs to happen is a better education system minus the teaching of hate and intolerance.

We've been through this before, there never was a country called Palestine, if you believe there was maybe you could provide a map showing it. What is now known as Palestine is the are west of the Jordan River which included the ancient Hebrew kingdoms of Judah, Benjamin, Ephraim and Manassah; the other part is the Gaza Strip. The word "Palestine" is taken from Hebrew Pelisti or"Philistia") "Palestine" had no official status until after until after World War I, when it was adopted for one of the regions controlled by Great Britain (the "British Mandate") Give the damn land back to Jordan and let them and the rest of the Arab states look after them, that is if they'll take it, and we know they are passing on that one.

This should get those suffering from BDS and HDS the screaming meemies, what that 'deep integration with the U.S." and all - http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...90-b9ce5a8cab77 Call to arms. Strike oil patch to cripple U.S., web posting says Al-Qa'ida has called for terrorist strikes against Canadian oil and natural gas facilities to "choke the U.S. economy." An online message, posted Thursday by the Al-Qa'ida Organization in the Arabian Peninsula, declares: "We should strike petroleum interests in all areas that supply the United States ... like Canada," the No. 1 exporter of oil and gas to the U.S. "The biggest party hurt will be the industrial nations, and on top of them, the United States."

Heck, I don't work for big business, LOL I don't work at all anymore. However, the anti US fervour which seems to permeat the liberal crowd, does not serve us well, economically or diplomatically. 'deep integration' is just more innuendo, propaganda to scare people with, there's nothing wrong with trade and making a profit. Taxes are paid on profits which allow you to suck off the public teet, if that is your concern.

I would'nt worry to much about her, she has posted niether qty or quality, in fact she makes it up as she goes along. I'm learning to speak Yankee, I'm starting to use the expression ' where you at' , napkins instead of serviettes, and a couch instead of a chesterfield. Heck, I'm even thinking in miles and farenheit.... it grows on you when you winter down south. Have to get rid of that 'at' thing though

I agree, there is legitimate criticism of Israel which is not anti-semitic, but it is pervasive and I quoteP: Profoundly anti-Israel views are increasingly finding support in progressive intellectual communities. Serious and thoughtful people are advocating and taking actions that are anti-semitic in their effect if not their intent. Lawrence Summers, 17 September 2002

I don't have much time to go into a lot of detail, have company coming for a few days. The 'right of return' is not acceptable but, peace would be very easy to achieve if Palestine accepted Israel's right to exist, quit turning its kids into human bombs and simply quit attacking Israel. If they dismantled their terrorist camps, concentrated on their economy, set up schools (minus the hate) they will have a chance. Other than the right of return, there have been acceptable plans in the past, one I believe Arafat agreed to, but didn't implement. If they do renounce terrorism and quit attacking Israel, there would be more international foreign aid. I see no reason why Arab oil rich States couldn't do more to help their economy, in fact one simple solution would be for Jordan et al to annex 'palestine' and take in all the people as citizens. (but they don't want them do they). As Golda Meir once said: There will never be peace as long as they (Palestine) hate Israel more than they love their children. This is interesting: http://www.therightroadtopeace.com/eng/MainPlanEng.html Key principles of the Elon Peace Plan 1. Immediate dissolution of the Palestinian Authority, a non-viable entity with no future, whose existence precludes the termination of the conflict. 2. Israel will uproot the Palestinian terror infrastructure. All arms will be collected, incitement will be stopped and all the refugee camps, which serve as incubators for terror, will be dismantled. Terrorists and their direct supporters will be deported. 3. Israel, the United States and the international community will recognize the Kingdom of Jordan as the only legitimate representative of the Palestinians. Jordan will once again recognize itself as the Palestinian nation-state. In the context of a regional economic development program, Israel, the United States and the international community will put forth a concerted effort for the long-term development of Jordan, to rehabilitate its economy and enable it to absorb a limited number of refugees within its borders. Recognition and Development of Jordan as the Palestinian State 4. Israeli sovereignty will be asserted over Judea, Samaria and Gaza (the West Bank). The Arab residents of these areas will become citizens of the Palestinian state in Jordan. The status of these citizens, their connection to the two states and the manner of administration of their communal lives will be decided in an agreement between the governments of Israel and Jordan (Palestine). Israeli sovereignty over Judea, Samaria and Gaza 5. Israel, the United States and the international community will allocate resources for the completion of the exchange of populations that began in 1948, as well as the full rehabilitation of the refugees and their absorption and naturalization in various countries. Rehabilitation of refugees and completion of population exchange 6. After implementation of the above stages, Israel and Jordan-Palestine will declare the conflict terminated. Both sides will work to normalize peaceful relations between all parties in the region. Peace and normalization For more rationale and details: Principles 1-2 | Principle 3 | Principle 4 | Principles 5-6 Underlying principles of the Elon Peace Plan: No other proposal addresses final-status issues. The Elon plan offers a way to translate the achievements of the war in Iraq into a new "Marshall Plan" for the Middle East, a plan that is based, on the one hand on Israel, the only stable democracy in the region, and, on the other, on Jordan which has a quasi-democratic government, thus removing the Palestinian terrorist regime from the picture.

Iraq according to Al J was once said to be the fourth largest army in the world, CHANNELS Life and death of Iraq's military By Ahmad Amrawi Answering this crappola about nuking Iran only gives the accusation more space, the continuing repetition of such untruths does give them more impact and readership.

I don't save everything I read nor keep a library. An increased supply of hate creating stories about Israel from various sources and the willingness of people to listen to such hatred fosters anti semitism..The impact of these stories comes from repetition not truth. These type of stories and misrepresentation of history help to discredit Israel and benefit the anti semites. Hatred relies on people accepting, rather such hate or misinformation. Maybe we should call this misinformation 'Protocols of the Left wing Yuppies' or whatever. Anti-semites and racists will promote 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' to claim that the world is run by the Jews and their 'Zionist Occupational Gov.' http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/...le.asp?ID=21758 this article explains a lot http://sicsa.huji.ac.il/goodman2.pdf http://www.sullivan-county.com/id4/index.htm On Israel and Peace: The Ugly Truth I've always found this "settlement" issue a sick joke. Like everything else we have one rule for Israel and no rules for Islamic terror states, Islamic fascists, and their followers. In 1948 650,000 Arabs fled what is called Israel today under orders of their leaders to make killing Jews easier. They also warned those Arabs that sought protection from or sided with the Jews a similar promise of death. Some Arabs, such as the Druze, sided with the Jews and are Israeli citizens today and fight in the army. Since 1948 850,000+ Jews were stripped of their property and expelled from surrounding Islamic fascist states. Nobody is advocating they be allowed to "return" to their homes or be paid for their stolen property. It's also funny (sick) that nobody complains about the 650,000 "Palestinians" that were expelled from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia after the Gulf War (for treason) back to their "Palestinian" state of Jordan

Personally I don't find the CPC agenda all that objectionable, in fact I'm down right euphoric over the funding cuts to some SIGs, and look forward to eventual senate reform and tax cuts. I sure don't look forward to nanny state liberal policies. Maybe you would care to look at the actual CPC policies and tell me which ones you particularly object to: http://www.conservative.ca/media/20050319-...DECLARATION.pdf

I was under the impression that Chretien is a practicing Catholic. Conservatives never made an issue of that. It seems to be a liberal game. It is I guess, and these labels are rather stupid labels, especially as it speaks to the intolerance of the left. These terms are rather fake labels used by desperate liberals to scare poor old Canucks into believing that the Conservatives still have that scary hidden agenda. booga booga

Hmm, seems like the tactic of the left is to clutter up the forum with innuendo and propaganda, (well, one poster in particular) if there was anything worth debating maybe we would. The U.S. is not going to nuke Iran or invade, Israel has made noises about taking out facilities, Clinton style, nothing more. I don't see the point in regurgitating useless innuendo about nuking Iran, and personally I'n not interested in reading what she posts, but am willing to read other opinions. What we should be debating is how the world can help Iraq and stop the terrorist carnage, they are killing their own people by the thousandsd. There has to be a way for all countries and the U.N. to somehow help broker peace. Rehashing woulda shoulda coulda doesn't help, and pulling out as Obama wants won't help either, there has to be a better solution.

Ah, a secret deep integration meeting held in stealth, I'm shivering in my shoes while I'm getting my tin foil hat out too.

Theo-con is an American term intended as a pejorative - meant to send shivers up every liberal spine. The theo-cons are coming, theo-cons are coming, you know how it goes. If you're one of those unhappy people who suffers from BDS or HDS (Bush/Harper derangement syndrome)but never the less, feels compelled to emulate U.S. politics, it will creep into your vocabulary. After all, there is a 'deep integration' with the U.S. you know...

The one year report card is in and the Prime Minister has scored very well. http://www.sesresearch.com/library/polls/POLNAT-W07-T217.pdf Now I'm going to wait for the spin on these facts.

I agree he's done an about face on global warming, and bowing to the hysterical enviro nazis As for the asinine suggestions about Harper' and 'theocons' (which is an interesting use of U.S. propaganda, guess the U.S. has uses after all when it suits the purpose) how exactly could Harper or anyone else impose these supposed beliefs on those who don't share them, considering our constitution and Canada's secularism. Some of the points from that article take away any credibility it might have had, it is just not possible for Canada to be turned into a theocracy unless the demographicws change substantially, and that isn't happening. Contrary to the hysterical liberal scare mongering, conservatives are not tied to the religious right - Harper has always been a fiscal conservative and does not pander to the social conservatives. People generally support Israel because it is the only democracy in an area and is threatened with genocide and terrorists.

Canadians are not 'absorbing the US monetary debts' We are not giving away our resources, we are selling them for profit Trade with the U.S. is most beneficial to our economy, no trade would tank the economy As for the ' subterfuge to try and pull off deep integration- what is heinous are spurious comments/opinions such as that.