Born Free

The ONLY difference between the Conservatives & Liberals is that any one point in time one of them is the party in power.

Yep....just to see how bad things really are down there....

I went to Niagra Falls NY last week and paid more for my slurpie than I do here in Toronto. Things must be getting tough down South with all that unemployment and trillions upon trillions of debt. Millions of people without any health care and no hope whatsoever. Hang in there USA!!!

Amen to that.

...I wonder if those flyers were also used by Harper to smear Paul Martin suggesting that he supported child pornography...

Have you seen the latest Globe story? Not good. STORY LINK

Nuthin'. I believe Alt. wanted to know if you think Hillier should be charged with a war crime. I dont. I just think he should be charged with stupidity.

...and none of Twains shall meet....

Does that mean she gets to choose what "death panel" she wants?

...and as the glaciers in Glacier National Park and on Mount Kilimanjaro (for example) slowly dissappear...the nay sayers will go ... DUH! What happened?

....I wonder what Sarah Palin would have to say about all this banter....

Precicely!!

Let us not forget that Canada has those irreplaceable government run "Death Panels". Have any of you seen the former Surgeon General C. Everett Kook's (Oops! I meant Koop) health care commercial spreading complete lies about the UK health care system? It must be very difficult for the average US citizen to make a knowledgable decision about health care reform when people in the high places are speading large amounts of disinformation. When people show up at meeting shouting "Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!", it kinda makes one wonder if these people should be allowed to vote... Oh well..........

Did you lose your dominatrix's phone number? Is that why you come here?

I think you misspelled "security" ..... its SCRUTINY...

True enough but sad might be somewhat of an an understatement. The only way to sort this out is via the public inquiry route. Perhaps General Boyle could be of some help. He had all of the answers. There weren't any cheap ways to deal with detainees except the one selected. The longer term consequences of turning them over to the Afghan police to be tortured was thought to be the least bad option. It will prove to be not the cheapest in the long term either. All of the options discussed were bad. Dropping the farmer or the guy found in the wrong place at the wrong time into an Afghan jail to be tortured is an outstanding recruiting tool for the Taliban - and all of his tribe might be persuaded to be not too kindly disposed toward the government too. There are lessons to be learned here......... - Do not hope to create democracy in an illiterate,medieval, tribal culture. - Do not pour billions of $ into a corrupt society and hope to reduce corruption. - Do not try to stop farmers from growing dope over there while we keep buying it here. - Do not hope to capture the hearts and minds of folks whose fingernails have gone missing. - Avoid bombing Afghan weddings to advance the hearts and minds project. - Read about the Vietnam "Phoenix Program" to see how well that advanced the hearts and minds project back then.

....safe from getting caught in a lie...

Still waiting to hear from Harper. He's hiding the names....wish I could help more... Perhaps you could submit a Freedom of Information request to the government but dont get your hopes up. The DND might alter the document....its been done before under a socialist goverment...

Here's an idea for you....think about not posting any more.

I recall reading this stuff about him in another thread. Interesting. He does seem to come across as a total whackjob....

I have them but Harper has asked me to redact the names....stand by...

Thats what this story is about...very Nixonian...

Horsepucky. Seems there is a lot of horsepucky to go around in both camps.

Dont know about war crime charges being laid...never thought of that as being a possibility or probabability. Public humiliation of the dishonorable folks involved will pretty well do it for me.

Beating a captive amounts to torture. Please dont play word games on this. I'll accept that you did everything by the book. The Globe article tells us that Harper lied which is really what this story is about ....Harper and & Co. bullshitting us.....including you. Having observed the General Boyle gong show (aka Hillier) it makes it even more disgusting. I really dont like it when a PM and an honour bound general do that stuff. At the very least, they should be publicly humiliated just as they did to Colvin....