RB

The internet is making mail order brides easier. Sorry, mail order brides need attention for the mere fact that first this is a big profitable business and it involves women. Secondly, despite the romanticism that you folks want to give me about the males, all I can agree with is the ladies do want to get out of poverty and hardship BUT this does not necessarily translate to pleasing men. Thirdly, men force these women to pay for services they bought. And men are able to exploit their brides since they will face cultural, linguistic and economic barriers. Fourthly, mail order brides leave their marriages 3 months after they obtain their residency in the foreign countries and in the case of the US means 2 years in receipt of non-conditional permanent residency. Then they petition for parents and siblings to arrive. A study done at the University of Texas on 265 subscribers of mail-order bride catalogues concluded that "very many of them had extremely bitter experiences with divorce or breakups or engagements." The males were politically conservative and socially alienated There were: • typically white (94%), • highly educated (50% with two or more years of college) • 6% with M.D.'s or Ph.D's, • only five did not complete high school • politically and ideologically conservative (56% identified themselves as conservative), and • generally economically and professionally successful (64% earned more than 20,000 U$ per year, • 42 were in professional or managerial positions • The median age of the men was 37. • 57 divorce married once and divorce after 7 years I of course challenge this mail order practice because it undoes women freedom and really works against women strive for equality It is not alright to import women because of some perception that they will be demur, docile, submissive, produce children and have them live in the middleages.

RB, your making it sound like it was a one way set of promises. Do women have reciprocation of obligations? If so what is it they are commiting to? Your statement demonstrates exactly why I state that a pre-nup is required. So that each party clearly understands its obligations. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe that men seek to travel afar for wives because of the general wide-spread acceptance of premarital sex in the Western Society. This is what I attribute to the decline of morals. The women here are considered useless. Men hide behind the facade that they will get something better abroad - wide-eyed and innocent, someone to mold with less yearning power to topple men. I mean they are lots of leaning arguments in favor of women looking for security and finances. First, there are lots of examples of rich women who marry men who have more money than themselves. Next, women living with men with low scocioeconomic will say no to marriage. When women cannot find men to support them they turn to the government for their security. Incidentally, this is a reason why a liberal government is this huge, noticed also how they promote alternative lifestyles e.g. gay marriages Women enter into relationships, they are looking for partners in a relationship - thats all. ok I have to go now - but I haven't finish my thoughts here

Traditional = demise of all women Men are looking for slaves - folks that they can dominate

How come France allowed the Arab population to grow in poverty? I mean we are talking about generations born in France that is neglected. They are admitting to the practice of racism no? Plus is Canada also guilty of neglect of the immigrant population - I mean among immigrants the rates of unemployment and underemployment is way over the national level I feel fed up with this whole immigrant and multicultural problems

I am not an expert on the "penis" but I am afraid that men put their penis under sever scrutiny. Men think that their penis is ugly and they are not about have any fantasies to expose it. I mean when men were asked whether they rather be 5'2" in height with 7" penis or 6'2" in height with a 3" penis. 62% of males picked the 7" penis only 36% picked 3". If you wanted to impress women, in a survey of women who describe themselves as average, only 44% cared about the width of the penis while and 34% cared about the length. It’s a shame about this unconscious pressure to view your penis as who you are.

Ugh. Women like that have plastic souls and plastic tits. Don't want this to sound like 'sour grapes', but usually women that are treated (and treat themselves) as 'objets du art' are elitist, meaning you probably have to have an 8 figure income and a foot long wang to even be considered as a 'possible dinner date' to them. Not all, to be sure, but industries like that aren't likely to reinforce humility. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you mean that women with cosmetic makeover can expose their breast without sensitivity I mean Dolly Parton said it cost her like lots of money for her to look that cheap

You missed the part about alimony being calculated by need and that the behavoir of the spouse receiveing the alimony may not be considered.The current divorce laws are set up to provide a lifetime pension for a woman. They make it rediculously easy for a woman to get married - stay at home goofing around for a few years and then ask for a divorce because she is 'bored'. This then makes her entitled to a piece of her ex-husbands income for the forseeable future. The supreme court upheld a ruling yesterday that child support is not about caring for the children: the primary objective of child support is to ensure that ex-wives get to have the same standard of living that they would have had if they stayed in the marriage. Of course, such rules could be reasonable if the husband was the primary cause of the marriage breakdown, however, in 50% of cases the wife is primary cause. That is why I say our no-fault divorce laws are a problem: they provide a financial incentive for people to abandon a marriage because it is easier than working problems out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree that divorce laws are favorable to women. You would also have to agree that you couldn’t make scurrilous charges against women because they are in fact "manmade women". What I mean is that you promised them security as in finance, and support. Look, you even go way out to mail order them in. Then you divorce them. Did you know that marriages that end in divorces, men over the age of 40 find a mate as quickly as possible over 60% of the time. Women looking for a relationship as in marriage after divorces and especially if they have children only land into relationships 29% of the time. A bit unfair don't you think. The law is fair in my view. Women by themselves will fail to provide substantial and equal quality of life for the children if no help is given from the ex. Until women can compete equally in the marketplace most of the financial burden rest with the male because you promised. It is a shame that two adults cannot come to agreements all by themselves instead of involvement of lawyers and courts etc. with this divorce affair A divorce should only cost $6. The rest is just paperwork to the courts on what you have decided. Usually it is good to have the trial separation agreement so it makes the divorce process even easier.

Personaly, I think no fault divorce and officially sanctioned common law relationships are more signficant contributors to any 'deterioration of morals' in society. I find the mechanisms that our society has to hook prospective mates together are woefully inadequate. If you want a stable long term relationship then the last place you will find it is in a bar or a night club. This means people looking for these kinds of relationships turn to the internet, personals ads or similar approaches. I don't see a mail order bride as any different from a personal ad. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I went through the Divorce Act and there is nothing like "no-fault" divorce There is some pretty line up right here though - why go overseas Victoria Secret - got to run now but will writing here later

The mail orders is a growing trend Why we should not be concern? This is a way we are contributing to the deterioration of morals in this society or you simply just want me to view this whole affair with suspicion that all the folks really want, is to cross breed to get in that extra ½ chromosome

The divorce rates are pretty high in Ontario it is about 40% and Alberta even higher. Are these mail brides part of the stats. I mean the trend is towards common law so splitting up is not captured in the divorce rates. But here is what I believe that men "fool" around with the North American women -how long would a relationship last 6 months, 2 years then lose them The women of course offer the men their talents and support them as their mates: 1) I can clean 2) I can do the dishes 3) I made the bed 4) I can cook 5) here is breakfast in bed 6) I'll do anything 7) I believe in you 8) You can do it 9) I check the stocks 10) Its amazing how much youger you look 11) have I told you how much I love you? 12) have you been working out? Here I was thinking that because of 9/11 and these threats of terror that we now face, thats why men became more family oriented and became protective of their women. Instead they run off to look for those who wish for monetary security, in search of those who are meek?

Firstly, I think there are too many people who think that there are too many people. We have come a far way and look how we capable of sustaining life. For example while the third worlds can destroy the enviornment the first is capable (technology) and have the means (money) to sustain it. People have better lives than previously and are living longer. Now you need a constant generation to replace those who will retire to enjoy their longer lives. Also, look at how our government is subsidizing farmers not to produce food. Tell me that we are depleted of resources to feed more people. If I were to price population I can say that with free market operation people just keep getting richer and richer and these are the rich countries have low birth rates problems. Nevertheless, we will come to a point where we cannot have increase growth and productivity in this economy if you don’t have enough people to work, and consume. And I am hardly Ford who aim to produce cars for the entire population, well Ford needed population growth for a reason like the more the merrier As far as I can see Canada has grown miserable enough to halt its own population. Perhaps the miserable acknowledges that you have a big mass of empty white land. Why not help stop population growth elsewhere and to continue to grow our own population. The percentage of women in Canada opting not to have children should give an warning indication that there need to be some major strategies with population planning - it is far too high for comfort

Why are men hitting overseas to find brides - isn't this the same as the arranged marriage practiced by the Indian culture Aren’t there enough potential North American mates to choose from?

very funny! I suppose this is the perspective for present day

Sorry folks these are figures taken from Statistics Canada 2002b Just in case you begin to worry and lose sleep over my posted figures There is a graph available also if you can find it - Dumas, 1990, Beauja, Basavarajappa, and Verrm, 1988, Citizenship and Immigration Canada, 2002

<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aye, math is also cheap - I am even robbing myself $1.60 Stop Oil Company Price Gouging - Congressman Bernie Sanders

Oil companies are posting huge profits this 3rd quarter, in cases 89% profits - Did they take consumers for a ride? My old swift use to fill up for 12$ now I am doing 20$ an 80% increased - Surprise! what a coincidence?

Excellent job, well done, even though that is just my opinion. Sadly, too many parents use (or let) the television or computer to 'babysit' (and also basically raise, instill a sense of morals and justice, and program information to be regarded as 'gospel truth'). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The young ones are storms of hormones and temptations. So my kid has responsiblities, we manage with rules that my daughter came up with, if the rules are broken she also came up with the consequences. For now I am glad that she considers going out with me first over her friends But it doesn't stop them from trying tricks - last Friday I dropped the lot off at the movies and they bought tickets for SAW an "R" movie - later they called to say the folks at the movies need identification so they were catching a later show "chicken little" So I am glad someone is doing their job to help us parents - the kids look much older, but also there are still kids pushing buttons and testing limits

That is such bull. You know, I am beginning to wonder if our justice system can be saved. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The health folks are proactive though. THe Canadian Public Health Association is sending facts about HIV and HIV safety in the workplace, info is going out to all 9 CFL clubs.

this is similar to the drive clean program

Here is a response I would have wish upon. If I was wearing my cross that can also be a potential weapon and I needed to help a distressed person - my first instinct would be to kiss my cross - and pray "lord give me strenght" thats where the force of power to fight off evil lies. I would put my cross in my pocket. I mean you derive the power, and source of strenght in carrying those symbolic objects. If I start prancing around like a ninja and hitting folks with my cross I can become a she-devil then anti-christ Is there such a thing as anti-Sikh?

I asked my kid about this chatting business and hot action, she did know much about such conversations. I am distressed that these prowlers are lurking for the innocent kids. You are right about parent monitoring and education - I allow MSN chats on weekend, we use the MSN 'cause you have to add folks to get on the list. Nothing is safe but at least I know the folks on the list.

It's a bad idea to dry clean a suit too often, as too frequent dry cleaning can damage the fabric. This is especially true with wool. If you wear the same suit very frequently, just have it pressed. Or consider buying more than one suit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just, for the record, are we talking about politicians here or everyone? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You mean politicians have a different way to dress more beautiful from everyone else Perhaps they have more disposable income than an average guy

yes, Sweden does not have a birth rate issue, and capitalism finds a way to feed population growth

Our birth rate is low and we have depopulation. (you have 35% of women not having kids and you don't see a problem) Canada needs 2.1 children per woman to replace the current population. 2 children means that their parents are replaced and .1 means we can compensate for the potential early death a parent before the children reach reproduction. This is the way to ensure a stable and zero growth. Canada has a birth rate of 1.2 or something like that and by 2031 we will be losing population as the 22% of baby boomers begin to die. We also lose 60,000 people through emigration. To stabilized the current population we currently need about 250,000 extra people. There is a baby bust looming right here!

Goverments need to have some population growth policy. Did you know that there are 29% of families with no kids plus another 6% of women who claim they will not have any children. That's 35% the breeding population you wish to rule out. Sweden has generous day care which correlates with its big population growth plus 18 months of parental leave - every female want to have kids If nothing the government should start by choosing government employees by merit, like being married with children should be considered an advantage. What is your reasons for no government subsidy really? I mean are you afraid that letting the government get very involved in family planning is dangerous. Were you thinking in the lines of you really didn't want to encourage welfare mothers to have more children? I guess when everything fails encourage more sex - however you modify the women shampoo, lipstick, purses, tampax tampon