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I don't know but Haiti was invaded by the JTF and Americans, Aristide was kidnapped and Canada and US have taken over to put their puppet government in place just like in Afgnaistan. It was briefly in the news a few years back but the corporate controlled mainstream media stopped reporting on it. You can listen to a few interviews with Aristide on "Democracy Now", a radio show on the web that is fianced by the global elite. Aristide had a 90% approval rating and was a pro people governemnt wanting to get Haiti back on its feet, similar to indonesia although Indonesia was invaded from withing by criminal forces the way it is being done in USA now. The reason is that the globalist corporations can use these small relatively isolated people as slave labour to make T shirts and running shoes, etc. Why don't you start a thread on the Never Ending Story and post there instead of polluting this thread with your stupidity ? You are big idiot that stands out in a never ending field of idiots.

They have always needed a pretence to invade other peaceful countries that have people representative governments. In fact they invade to change governments from people oriented to corrupt dictatorships that will let the western banks print their money for them and lend it to them at face value. Thats is what the wars are about - replacing real governments with criminals so that the criminals can be paid off and let the western banks in. The rogue nations all have one thing in common, Western banks are not doing their financing. (Robert Gaylon Ross video on Google), Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man (Book/Perkins) They can invade smaller countries like Nicaragua and Haiti without anyone noticing but for larger countries like Iraq or Iran they need volunteers that are willing to fight for "democracy" so they need to motivate people to join up. Such as ? What red herring ? But it doesn't matter now. Other governments know what the Americans are doing. Its just a few of the less intelligent Americans that watch too much TV that don't get it. Do you remember Condi Rice talking about the mushroom clouds, etc ?

That is rumours and gossip. If people repeat to you that the moon is made of cheeze does that constitute proof ? Presstitute commentary, even when repeated adds up to nothing. When you explain the gov has said this you are assumming that 911 could not be lying. If 911 was an inside job then certainly gov is capable of making up this kind of propoganda. We have seen it before "WMD Al Queada is the name of the terrorist network built up by Washington to do false flag ops. Al Qaeda means "the Organization"

They already had troops on the Afghan border and were showing those towers collaspe every day to build up fear (but not wtc7).

I think this is "here say" rather than proof. If 911 was an inside job then the CIA could have easily made this up. Show us the real picture then so we can see the doctoring. Do you thing they digitally modified his nose too ? Do you think those muslims that control the media intentionally made a picture of the real Osama look fake and then forced CNN to show it that way ?

<<insert chicklen noises here>> So in other words you cannot meet the challenge because you know that anying you use from PM or 911Myths can be shown to be a lie. Do you think the atc7 collapsed from fires and damage ? (yes or no will do)

Why isn't anyone answering my challenge and posting crap from the debunker sites like 911Myths or from magazines written for retards like PM ?

Its beyond me too. What are you talking about ?

I got a "10 pence" coin that looks the same as a quarter in metal content and size. It looks like we are minting coins for some other country that are the same as our quarters. We do minting for other countries up here. I think we print the Federal Reserve/Illuminati Promisary coins as well. I saved the coin and dropped it in my junk silver collection. I can always use a magnet to find fiat coins that are in there. Real money doesn't stick to a magnet.

Thanks Drea, stick around please. The quality of arguement presented by the neocons is firther proof. Canadian Blue has tried to bring the holocaust into it, now he is trying with the Never Ending Story. He cannot attack the evidence presented by experts so he attacks the webmasters that post the evidence. Sad & Shameful.

If he could get people behind him to run then there is nothing wrong with that. USA has a higher incarceration rate than any other country in the world.

There have been neocons suggest that people exposing government lies like 911 are Al Queada and if you are labeled a terrorist you can be legally dragged out of your house at night and never heard from again. They haven't started doing it yet but HR 6166 and the military commissions act does give them the right. They have to excercise the cops for this and they have to take away guns. The right to own guns is being called into question by Deleware Supreme Court now. You can't just ask the cops to start dragging people out of their homes and dissapearing them, you have to work up to that point with excercises.

Not true. The point is that they lay a lot on the line to say this. It is not as easy for them to say this as it is for to be the government apologist that you are. You have to respect them for putting their carreers on the line to say something they believe even if you think they are wrong. Its called "patriotism", "character", "integrity". So lets hear your best arguement for Osama doing 911, why do you think that ? (take your best shot - I know before you were just fooling around)

Really ? How ?

You keep making that silly comment and I keep pointing out that my link to his site was really a link to a brigadier geneneral who was an explosives expert and who wrote a report to congress showing that the official version of the Oklahoma bombing was a scientific impossibility. Why can't you tell the difference between Rivero and a brigadier general ? - they are not the same person. Do you think that Rivero is trying to pass himself off as a general and that he wrote the report ? This kind of arguemnt is so typical of the neocon types. They cannot attack the evidence so they go after the web master. Stupid. If you do this for fun you should be better at it. What evidence ? The lies of Popular Mechanics, the lies of 911Myths or the mainstream media lies about the investigation and its "conclusions". I've already shown how all these people use propoganda to mislead the non critical thinker. So what "evidence" ?

How about some content in your posts ? I've already stated that the set of coincidences & unusual happenings and coverups is my proof. You turn to insults when you do not have an arguement. Grow Up.

I believe 911 was done to create the police state and side track us from the North American Union. Going into Afganistan and Iraq were side issues. That reminds of a a looney tunes cartoon "Lets You and Him wrestle"

Don Henley Inside Job song Don Henley Video Song David Lynch and Streisands husband came out last week saying it too, These guys put a lot on the line to say this.

Why does publications like Popular Mechanics mislead wrt facts of 911 ? Why did Nova and BBC do it wrt wtc construction ?

Maybe not in math class but its proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The guilty behaviour of hiding evidence really wraps it up nicely. Why do you suppose those Pentagn tapes were so quickly rounded up ? Why were the cops and fireman gagged in NY ? Why can't we see the Pentagon tapes that show this airliner hitting the Pentagon ? Why doesn't mainstream ever (very rarely and not always when asked) show the wtc7 collapse ?

The set of unlikely events and the guilty behaviour is my proof.

Thats commentary not proof of anything. If I post a link to someone that says the moon is made of cheeze does McCain start buying rights to it ? I see so they would do nothing in case they got the wrong plane. I never heard that before, did you make that up ? No it isn't. Building construction in such a way to prevent collapses is their area of specialty. They don't study mechanics of actual collaspes - only how to prevent them. Evidence was immediately removed from all sites right after the crashes and before any investigations could start. Are you doubting this ? Still, it was an incomplete and biased investigation set up by known liars (Iraq/WMD's). A level headed person would assume nothing and judge from the evidence. All governments are inherently corrupt because power corrupts and the absolute power that the US government now has shows that they are absolutely corrupt. ...I'll get the rest later.

Hating Henry Kissinger is not uncommon. He erred in setting the date but the system will collapse soon. Many economists are saying it. Joseph Steiglitz says it (ex head of world bank) I have heard many top economists say it over the past year. Of course its not on TV or mainstream so you wouldn't know. I believe that. If we do not stop globalism the world as we know it will end. Most people will be knocked back to the 14th century that survive. The idea is to recreate society in its entirety as a myth based society. Why don't you tell me ? I think LaRouche's idea that the country needs to be re nationalized is absolutely correct. Globalism is nothing more than corporations erasing borders and making governments less relevant. Its not about creating a better world for ordinary people, its about re shaping the world in the interest of the top most wealthy elites. They are afraid that too many people will figure out how the world really works and lock them up. I don't know alot about LaRouche. I posted this thread to hear some other ideas. He makes more sense than Harper & Bush, thats for sure. Ultimately politics is about the oligarchy vs the people. The oligarchy is winning because most people do not understand that. I didn't get that from LaRouche, I got it from Plato, but LaRouche says it too.

I challenge government apologists everywhere to show that 911 was not an inside job. Popular Mechanics and 911Myths are full of lies and misleading information. This is an open challenge to governemnt apologists to quote from these and other sources. I will show that these sources are lying or misleading. 911 was an inside job. We know this for the following reasons. (1) Air defence stand down during attacks. (2) Unusual collapse of buildings, particularly building 7, www.wtc7.net (3) Subsequent cover up and/or removal of evidence (4) Incomplete & biased investigation (5) Congressional lies surrounding the investigation (6) Numerous high ranking people from the establishment say it was an inside job. They have nothing to gain by doing this & everything to lose. (7) Refusal to have unbiased independent investigation (8) Hole in pentagon was too small for the jetliner. (9) You could not make cell phone calls from 30,000 ft as the government sponsored Hollywood propoganda says you can "Hi Mom, Its Mark Bingham" (10) People involved in coverup are involved in other war crimes such as invasion of Iraq and surrounding lies.

The USA is rapidly becomming a nation of servants, CEO's, lawyers and politicians. Soon everything useful will be produced in China using the natural resources of the USA & Canada.