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How is that clear ?. You are right about one thing - I cannot stop you from watching TV. Good for you. Try it with 911Mysteries: Part1: Demolition. Loose Change was an old movie, much has been learned since then. NIST has also reworked what they have said since Loose Change . Loose Change 3 will be comming out.

I guess the Repo man must be something on TV for you to be referencing it. Maybe a movie. I remember the name. It couldn't be a book...

Thanks Figleaf, but I think its more like: (1) recognition of the fact that these gloabalists have created an economic culture that is rotten with corruption and they have infected nearly every area of society. Look at how cops and lawyers operate now compared to 20 - 30 years ago (2) Culture of greed - concentration of wealth and a belief in eugenics at the top 5% income bracket (3) Knowledge of US foreign policy and the knowing that these forces will be turned on us and the knowledge that this new collectivism is just as dangerous as the collectivism sought by Hitler, Mao TseTung and Stalin. (4) fear of the concentration camps (5) fear of economic collapse and dying a slow death.

Yes, Its called "The Republic Of Plato" but it is often spoken as "Platos Republic". I've heard it said that the USA was (before HR 6166, etc) the first Platonic Republic implemented.

"Platos Republic" sounds like a country, I thought maybe you thought it was a country. Do you think Osama Bin Laden is behind the 911 truth movement ? Take a real good look at this: Officials Question 911 Tell me how they are benefitting.

Air Traffic Controllers say 911 was an inside job because they tracked the planes to their targets and were gagged.

Platos Republic, actually, The Rupublic Of Plato is a book (I shouldn't have expected you to know that). I'm sorry it wasn't an attempt at "intellectual thuggery".

You guys should shut your TV off and read Platos Republic. Its a very easy book to read. It seems complex at first but keep reading, the first book (chapter in our world) just outlines the problems. Anyone can read this book.

Who is paying these guys off Officials Question 911 , Osama Bin Laden or Dylan Avery ?

So you think that this collapse (see video on page) www.wtc7.net was caused by fires and that the above links to the Officials Questioning 911 are being paid off by Osama And Dylan Avery is getting rich. You don't think Halliburton is making money from the Iraq war yet you are sure that the makers of 911Mysteries and Terrorstorm are making money ? ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO (but harder this time). The official version of the building collapses is not proven. Its not even investigated !!! Mainstream tells you it was but in reality it was not.

Take a real good look at this: Officials Question 911 Tell me how they are benefitting.

This doesn't make sense. All journalists make money for what they do. They have to eat too, just like Blitzer,Rumsfeld,Cheney, Kissinger, Halliburton, BechTel, Dyncorp, etc. Everyone has to eat and journaists and book authors do make money. You cannot discredit 911Mysteries, 911Timeline or any other of the latest 911 work so you attack the flank - the fact that they make money. WHEN HALLIBURTON IS MAKING BILLIONS FROM ALL THIS.

"You gotta catapult the propoganda" - GW Bush "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." -GW Bush, Sept 13, 2001 "So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him...to be honest with you." - GW Bush, March 13, 2002 "I don't know where [Osama bin Laden] is and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -GW Bush, March 13, 2003 "Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations." -GW Bush, Oct 13, 2004 That stuff between your ears, the grey matter, is supposed to be used for critical thought. You can actually use critical thought to see who is lying to you.

You can watch it for free if you want. If you buy it they use the money to feed themselves and make another movie. Dylan Avery made a small fraction of the money used by the Pentagon to shape your beliefs. A lot of FICTIONAL TV shows will have this as an underlying theme in the TV season. Stop watching TV. You are an idiot if you watch TV.

Not really, these guys are putting their videos up at no cost and selling to recover their costs. That woman that did 911Mysteries, Alex Jones/Terrorstorm & Aarron Russo/America: Freedom To Fascism are not doing this for profit. You should be able to figure that out just by the fact that you can watch any of these for free or order the CD's and make as many copies as you want. You should also be able to figure out that gov cannot be trusted: WMD's in Iraq. Look at all the BS you saw on CNN wrt Iraq war. That whole pulling down the statue thing was staged.

ROTFLMAO !! Don't you know that all media is controlled ? Why would these people give you correct info ? Don't you know the Pentagon spends 1.5 billion dollars per year to shape your beliefs ?

I see, so its OBL again getting people to make these movies. Those Muslims control the media and they have thought control technology that is causing people to make these movies or is it that the people making these movies hate our freedoms too and are just helping Osama ? Or its people making these movies just to make millions (even though they give the movies away for free). Your arguements can always be reduced to absurdity. You people do not seem to understand one simple fact: ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE INHERENTLY CORRUPT. The people must have means of checking this power. We do not. This is how the USA was made by its forefathers- with this understanding. This structure is being destroyed to produce a collectivist based society rather than an individualist based society. Society will be collectivist to serve the needs of the elites (0.01% of us). Collectivist based societies have a concentration of power and absolute power corrupts. This is not pro terrorist propoganda, I've explained to you that all these government apologist media is lying and I can point out the lies one by one. You calling me a terrorist is just another cheap neocon/fascist trick but its the best you can do. Do you call everyone that discredits corporate media a terrorist ? Loose change is an early movie and they made mistakes and those mistakes cannot be used to discredit the movement because its evolved since then. Criticise 911 Mysteries: Part 1 Demolition (free on google video) and I will listen but Loose Change is an easy target but in its time it was a seminal work.

Because 911 was an inside job and you should watch 911Mysteries: Part1 Demolition. Its a free video on google. 911 Mysteries: Part1 Demolition If this many people are saying it perhaps they are right. Certainly the official version is a pack of lies. I can tell you that attempts to discredit this movemnent based on the facts really amounts to a pack of lies and a disinformation campain. This is particularly true of the Popular Mechanics disseminations on the topic and is true of sites like 911Myths. Check out 911 Mysteries, its the best movie on the topic yet. These movies are not made for profit, this movie and Terrorstorm are free for you to copy and distribute all you want. Many people are doing this. People are going to a great deal of trouble and in some cases personal risk to tell you something. Please listen. See Terrorstorm

Israel is losing land daily. The desert is creeping up on them.

BTW, Jews live in every middle eastern country and have no problems. They are respected amoung others and live and walk about Arabs peacefully. People don't like Zionists because of what they have done in Palestine. I say its a water war and its hard to judge people from here. I think they should build desalinization plants instead of bombs, but I know a lot more about this than you do.

He didn't have to. The fact that they lied about WMD's doesn't seem to matter. I didn't say they were peaceful. I said Saddam Hussein was a nationalist which is why he had to be destroyed. Same as Haiti, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, etc. The USA goes to war to put in corrupt governemnts that subsequently let the IMF take charge of their money and allow multinational corps to come in. They just find war criminals that will take the position and pay them off.

I believe that too, but I also think this was a setup and that controlled demolition actually caused the collapses. Of course we wiull never know because the actual collapses were not investigated.

Not for a decade, its been going on for about 50 years starting with Iran in the 50's to put the shah in place. This is admitted. They didn't create fictional intelligence to ignore - that would be silly. They just say the intelligence was wrong so that they can be excused for their actions due to honest error. I recall seeing that clip on CNN shortly after 911 and after a report a few weeks earlier of Osama saying he didn't do it. When I saw the video I knew right away that this wasn't the real Osama and it further confirmed what I had already known after seeing the collapse of wtc7. At the time I didn't know any one else that thought 911 was an inside job until a year or so later. Perhaps what is shown on whatreallyhappened would be thrown out of court but the original clip from CNN would not. (not to say that I am a lawyer, I am certainly NOT a lawyer nor would I want to be) Do you really think the collapse of wtc7 was from a fire ?

Stignasty, pick your favorite point of PM's and I will prove to you that they are either lying or misleading wrt facts. Any point. Anybody else too. You pick. No. I called CanadianBlue an idiot for confusing this topic with the Never Ending Story. I think if you look at 911 carefully and still believe the official version then you must be a fool.

This thread is about 911. If you think that the Never Ending Story is important than start a thread. I'm starting a complaint aginst you on this forum.