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Walz Accidentally Let's the Cat Out of the Bag
User replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
It is not vague at all. Voters go vote, the Electors go vote for who they chose, we have a President. If your argument is boiled down to nothing more than they don't "directly" have a say because the Electors go carry out their wishes... um, OK. So what? They are based on a state's population. Yes, the do factually represent the citizens. They do roughly represent the same number of Americans. That is the entire definition of roughly. Yeah, lets see... what is more likely, that I don't know that each state gets 2 Senators regardless of population or that I was clearly talking about the House of Representatives, a part of Congress, being based on population... and could have been more precise in my language. This is just a dumb gotcha game at this point. -
There are several scenarios here: -He wins, of course he declared himself winner -A close race he barely loses, but there are clear issues and legal challenges to be made, just like anyone else does. -Harris clearly wins, almost certainly Trump bows out Will he pursue legal challenges in a tightly contested race? Of course. Just like everyone does. Just like you supported and defended Gore and still claim that Gore should have won... The issue is, can he simply install himself as ruler of America? No. There is no path to doing that any more than him just asserting it now and doing it now. It is just silly fear-mongering. No, I was making a point that your argument is no more outlandishly possible than if he does just declare himself King and it will work IF everyone goes along with it. Sigh... yeah, there is that IF again, its the same absurd IF as if he declares himself King, he doesn't need "everybody" just enough people... *facepalm*
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Walz Accidentally Let's the Cat Out of the Bag
User replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Yes, and I have already responded to this. The process represents people who do in fact vote. That is Democratic. The EC is in fact based on each person in the State having a vote... which follows the principle. Of course they do. They go out on election day and quite literally vote. It is in fact every sense of the term a Democratic process. So, which is it, do you want proportional representation or not? I was the one who told you there was a difference between the two, that is because California has a population of 40 Million people and Wyoming has a population of about half a million. Feel free to explain how you think I am ignorant of something if you can. -
Is this where you cry about calling illegal immigrants who murder and rape Americans' animals? Yes, we already know you guys care more about them than you do the Americans being raped and murdered.
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The whole security clearance bit is a ruse. If this was sensitive information that somehow the PM couldn't share how he knows the Russians are paying Jordan Peterson, then why is he publicly stating that he knows the Russians are paying Jordan Peterson? What is sounds like, is that the PM was speaking out of his ass off the cuff in grasping at names he knows. And now he is hiding from any scrutiny. The only question is if the Canadian Press, the actual mainstream press that has access to him, will actually press him on ever answering for this or not. I don't understand how your political system works either, but I doubt anyone will hold him in contempt or if there is any process to do so for what he said under oath either.
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I don't need to. I was not arguing this point. Learn to read. So, yes, they started the war. No, we didn't. Russia was meddling in Ukraine and their stooge got ousted. They took advantage of that chaos and invaded Crimea. Then, they instigated sedition in the Donbas and literally sent their military in to fight against Ukraine there. Then, they built up an invasion force and launched a full scale invasion. Every step of the way, it was Russia that did this. People are dying because of Russia. You are a Putin sycophant pushing his propaganda to back them. Oh boy, look at how dishonest you are. I clearly stated Russia initially tried to take Kiev on day 1. They failed, they got their asses kicked. Wow... just amazing how on the very timeframe Russian logistics were being cut off, their forces being pushed back by Ukrainian counter offensive, that they had to retreat... Putin claims there was a peace deal signed by Ukraine and he was just retreating out of the kindness of his heart. The only question I have for you is if you are really this ignorant that you believe this or if you are just this dishonest? What direction do you think Russian forces are headed in right now you clown? Towards Kiev. If they were not advancing that direction, they would be headed back to Russia you mor0n. I did not say wiped out, but over the course of a couple of months Russia pushed to the outskirts of Kiev. They were trying to encircle Kiev and the pushed too far and it took them too long. They were trying to take Kiev much more quickly and failed, they got stopped and then pushed back. They stretched their logistics too far. This is all documented battlefield history. Its even called the battle of Keiv for crying out loud. Telling of what? How are you this dishonest? If Russia wanted peace, all they had to do is turn around and go home or never invade in the first place. You are not offering me any courtesy here, you just can't respond to the facts.
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Walz Accidentally Let's the Cat Out of the Bag
User replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
It appears we have wore you down. All your bad arguments defeated. You are now responding flippantly in short responses. The point is that you keep trying to say the Electoral College doesn't represent the people because the state legislature controls it, and the response to that is that it is the people who vote for that state legislature. Which is for the President... No. They clearly do. A State gets the number of Electors based on its congressional representation, which is based on its population. -
Are you just going to keep repeating yourself and ignoring my responses? There is nothing sane about what you are doing here. Biden owned every bit of that mess. Nothing compelled him to withdrawal or do it as he did. Taliban reneged on the deal, Biden chose to ignore that and go ahead with that messy withdrawal as he did. This has as much to do with Russia doing anything as my taking a dump this morning. On Biden's watch.
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Ah yes, you can't actually argue the facts, so you make up something absurd I never said. I never called you a Russian agent. No, you don't just want this war to end. As we have pointed out to you many many times, there are a lot of ways for the war to end, the way you want it to end is in Russias favor. The war you supported for Russia.
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Laugh all you want. I have been a member of just about every major denomination of Christianity, studied with others, and served with most of them all. Disagreement over things like not wanting to use music instruments in worship is hardly some astronomical difference in what each other believes. At the core, what makes them Christian remains the same. They believe in the prophecy of Jesus, that Christ fulfilled that prophecy, died for their sins, and is the one true God. What is a "real Christian?"
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History. What do you mean deal with it? As we have pointed out to you many times already... Israel has the power right now to literally carpet bomb everyone in Palestine, line up their tanks, and kill everyone if they wanted to. They don't. They left Gaza to them and look what they did with it? They turned it into a terrorist hell hole. If Palestinians had the same power as Israel, they would wipe them all out. I am quite certain you are a coward who won't just admit what you support here. Which ones? You have no ability to defend your assertions. You just run from them. Yet again, you refuse to define what subjugation. You have no response if Palestine wants the whole map. Run away!
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Walz Accidentally Let's the Cat Out of the Bag
User replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
The vast majority do not do that though and as I already pointed out, those state legislators represent... the people! Yes, they are in fact voting for President. Its on the ballot and everything. I have not ditched anything. -
LOL, you speak in vague generalities like this because that halt to the fighting can be a Russian victory. You know how else you have peace? If Russia had never invaded. If Russia never backed a separatist war in the Donbas and sent in their military to back it. Could have had peace before all that too. You don't want peace or a halt to the fighting, you want Russia to win.
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The point I was making here was regarding how the Bible was written. I was not trying to prove God exists. And no, Christians agree on the majority of everything in the Bible, where they disagree is on some doctrinal positions, that don't matter all that much in the grand scheme of things. They do mostly agree on, you know, the core fundamentals: Faith in Christ.
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Walz Accidentally Let's the Cat Out of the Bag
User replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
What do you mean only if the states want to? Who decides for the state what they want to do? Representatives elected by the people of that state. Yes, how those Electoral College members vote does in fact represent the voters of the state. -
Ah, I see you ignored all my questions and have to resort to your usual petty nonsense. Another 2 lies.
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Yes, a war Russia started and Biden and other NATO countries are supporting Ukraine. A war Russia started by starting their own proxy war in Ukraine in the Donbas, along with direct military intervention. Um, no. Russia was not poked at all. More like, Russia didn't like that Ukraine was wearing an American glove instead of their own, so here you are justifying and defending Russia starting a war over it. Are you still pushing this lie? Yeah, on day one, they certainly did try and got their asses kicked. OMG, how dishonest can you possibly be? Ukraine is literally fighting off a full scale invasion from Russia right now.
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Run away! LOL
