Hodad

I'd like to think it's because you've been taught ways to tell right from wrong and would choose to do right as duty to yourself and to your fellow man. If fear of divine punishment and reward are the only thing keeping you decent, you are really vulnerable to moral drift and manipulation. Things like the golden rule are easy enough. Tools like Rawlsian conception of justice build upon the basics. Either way, people will have to choose to do right or do wrong, but an internal framework is both sturdier and more resilient.

That's one of the principle problems with organized religion: rather than learning and internalizing the tools of decency, people rely on someone else's third-hand interpretation of a set of obscure rules. That's why it's so easy for a charismatic voice to bend them to evil ends--and why history is chock-full of sectarian atrocities. If people learned to effectively judge right and wrong for themselves we'd all be a lot better off.

😆There are literally tens of thousand of sects based just on that one book, not to mention all of the other texts and oral traditions out there. And the sanctimonious conceit of each one is that they alone understand the true meaning. Not to mention that the "infallible word of god" is an anthology assembled by the Catholic Church. I've read the Bible. One star. Would not recommend.

Humans are suuuuper good at discerning the will of God. Uncountable sects have discovered through divine revelation that the god(s) favors them and that they have the one and only truth. If the gods exist, they sure are pranksters.

That's a blatant lie. Par for you.

Awful. I understand quitting in protest, but eventually that will just leave our institutions populated exclusively by the politically corrupt.

Your detestation of facemasks is clearly subordinate to your tolerance for authoritarianism. Like the abusive father who says, "Look what you made me do!" LEOs haven't been driven to it, just Trump's goon squad. I pity the veteran officers who were there when it was a respectable organization. Now they are lumped together with a flood of xenophobic zealots and sent out to terrorize American communities. It's a consistent theme that the MAGA crowd is never upset at egregious actions of government officials and agencies, but rather upset at the people who call out that behavior. The mean ol' press. The mean ol' protestors. Nobody is protesting normal behavior. Nobody is doxxing Officer Friendly. (Look he has a name!) The ones who catch heat are those who are doing egregious things. As always, the problem isn't objections to bad behavior, it's the bad behavior itself. People doing the right thing don't need masks.

Economic theory is miles over your head. May as well be quantum physics. But what anyone should know is that the Fed system was created by Congress specifically as an independent agency to avoid political manipulation of our monetary policy. It is not a political entity. It is independent for very good reason, and yes, Trump's attempts to coerce and strongarm that agency is very much an erosion of checks and balances. It's an unethical encroachment on congressional authority and an attempt to pervert another politically independent body and functionally consolidate that authority in the executive. And this particular executive is a narcissistic sociopath bent on serving his own interests rather than those of the people. It would be an unmitigated disaster.

You people are nuts. You believe any random thing you hear in the conservative infobubble and adopt it as dogma. No facts required. You've simply swallowed the propaganda hook line and sinker. Here are facts. With data visualization from the decidedly un-left CATO. A. There never were open borders. That's a total and complete fabrication. The border laws were the exact same under Biden as they had been before. That is a fact. And Biden DID NOT cut enforcement. B. Biden's enforcement was dramatically more impactful than Trump's, with far greater numbers expelled and removed. C. What did change is that far more people were coming. So you should ask yourself WHY your understanding of the facts is so radically inverted from the actual facts themselves? Who did you listen to to get the narrative backward? And maybe, you know, stop listening to them.

Great. So we agree that was a nonsensical non-example of open borders. The separation of jurisdictions and powers exists for a reason. It's not a suggestion. Texas should stay in its lane.

This is just nonsense. Pure nonsense. A. This is the first example of doxing that I can find. "In 1997, a website known at the time as Nurnberg Files doxxed a list of abortion providers’ personal information as a hit list intended for anti-abortion activists. This was one of the first doxing campaigns in the US." -- It also happened recently with the Sandy Hook parents and the gamergate, so stop pretending this is somehow the domain of "the left." B. Every police officer in the country, AFAIK, must identify themselves and even produce a badge number when requested. Are they not at the exact same risk? Is it because they are of the community and tasked to serve and protect? -- As opposed to masked thugs abducting people off the street --not with warrants or as the outcome of an investigation, but literally just because of how the "look." Should all police be the secret police? Trump's Tonton Macoutes? If some masked thug drags you off the street you have no right to resist, nor any right to even know who is abducting you or why. Sounds like you're embracing dystopia with open arms. C. Again, the answer to a fear of doxxing is to function as a professional organization, enforcing the law with discipline and rigor, but also wisdom and restraint. Don't do things you would be ashamed of doing if people were to find out.

Holy shit. I didn't realize that the Biden administration invented the concept of federated government. Super good find. Or, just another example of the laws being followed. The states are not responsible for borders or border enforcement. Full stop. All states. Texas is not a special snowflake.

Conservatives used to mistrustful of big government and LEO militarization. Turns out a lot of them, like you, weren't conservative after all. Just eager submissives waiting for an authoritarian daddy. Ruby Ridge for white people bad. Ruby Ridge for brown people, and you can't get enough. Yes, for a fact, ICE has abducted, roughed up and jailed US citizens--primarily brown people--because. An ignorant foreigner such as yourself cannot erase those facts with hand waving. One of the guys that ProPublica profiled--a US Citizen and combat vetran--was dragged from his car, injured and detained for days because he "picked the wrong day to come to work." Another was detained TWICE in construction site raids because the ICE agents thought his RealID was fake. Brownshirts targeting brown people. This is Trump's America.

Hey, dumbfark, if you are capable of tracking even a basic conversation, it's pretty obvious. Yo claimed that ICE was not abducting US Citizens, when in fact it's a pretty common occurrence. There has been no period in which immigration laws were not upheld. There has been no period of "open borders." The laws just weren't sufficient--a deficiency that Trump ensured would remain by torpedoing bipartisan immigration reform so that he could campaign on the issue. As always, putting himself before the country.

Spoken like a child caught in a lie. Sure, its my fault for pointing out the truth, not your fault for blindly carrying Trump's water. 🙄 That's just the number ProPublica tracked down on their own. The government is not sharing information on their mistakes. Transparency would risk accountability, and Trumpco won't allow that possibility. The actions of the secret police must stay secret.

People like me? The counter would be good behavior, good practices, providing a service to the community rather than terrorizing the community. People should do work that they are proud of, operate according to the law, with integrity and decency, so that they are not only willing to be identified with the mission, but proud to do so. Unfortunately, Trump has robbed ICE employees of this opportunity.

Sure. This is the rationale for secret police being secret in every third-world dictatorship. Our local police officers must provide their names and badge numbers to the citizens they act with specifically as a means of promoting accountability and responsibility to the citizens they serve. Put plainly, ICE agents do not want to be identified because they know full well that they cannot be proud of their actions and operations. They know what they are doing is wrong--but they are "just following orders," so they swallow their shame, put on the mask and they go to work. It didn't used to be this way. This is the Trump effect, the debasement and degradation of every American institution. Anonymity breeds bad behavior in law enforcement the same way it does on an internet forum.

They're not? lol. You are the most willing of fools. This is America--or it used to be--where masked men are smashing and snatching people off the streets. And yes, many of them are just regular American citizens. This was in October: We Found That More Than 170 U.S. Citizens Have Been Held by Immigration Agents. They’ve Been Kicked, Dragged and Detained for Days.

No, the problem is that a paramilitary organization is operating and behaving in a manner which has utterly destroyed public trust--to the point that they are afraid to show their faces or identify their "officers." They abduct American citizens, they rough them up, they rendition them to distant places, they whisk them away to third-world gulags to be abused. They are executing illegal operations that violate not just people's rights, but also common decency. <-Therein lies the problem.

Instead of being horrified by yet another blatant abuse of power, I have every expectation that the cultists here will cheer the further dismantling of our democratic checks and balances. They will cheer a no-longer-politically-independent DOJ being misused to intimidate the FED into being no-longer-politically -independent. They will cheer a government that, instead of serving the people, serves only the would-be dictator.

That's bullshit, and you know it. Neither she, nor any of the protestors has any knowledge of who ICE was there to detain--if that's even a true identification of target. They simply know they don't want ICEc running roughshod over their city. Why? Because with this administration and the way it has used ICE and the gestapo tactics they've employed this agency no longer gets the benefit of the doubt. The public trust is utterly broken. So cut the bullshit. You know full well the dead mother of 3 wasn't there with any knowledge of or intention of protecting a child molester. Those kinds of lies make you look bad, not her.

This is just another massive (and comically bad) straw man argument. Can you find evidence anywhere of someone fighting to keep non-citizen criminals free in the US? On this forum? No, of course not. People object to the tactics ICE is using. The masks, the brutality, the abductions, the fear on the streets of US cities that makes decent people afraid to send their kids to school. Nobody is rooting for child molesters to stay here and you should be embarrassed and ashamed for trying to claim that they are. It's cheap and dumb. It's also the exact same crap you try to pull with Israel and Palestine. You want to pretend that objecting to wanton slaughter of innocent makes one pro-terrorist. Grow the fark up. Do better.

Rational person? Lol. Minnesota is a substantial net tax contributor. They pay far more to the federal government than they receive, supporting the moocher red states. They are also net food producers, BTW. You're threatening them with an even better economy. As long as Canada isn't going to invade, I think Minnesota would be happy to have financial emancipation. That's generally true of the relationship between blue and red states--Texas being a pretty notable exception. Are the red states grateful? No, they are petty and entitled, criticizing the blue states that are doing objectively better.

The person you call a "dead ho" was a wife and mother of three with a car seat and stuffed animals along for the ride, you grotesque farking ghoul. Even a basic human like yourself should be capable of basic human decency. You are what's wrong with the world.