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What constitutes "proof"? A Republican, who was party to the events, gave a late-life confession with morning to gain. In response, you talk about the deal being in the heads of deranged Democrats? I think there's a typo in your user name, Delude.

Rock hard dong.

You are lying. Again and again and again. The MFF is NOT specifically for protesters, let alone rioters, yet you claim it is and underline the word. You are a liar. Despite what you read in your looney chain emails, Harris did not "gleefully" predict anything about riots. She discuss protests and the justice movement, but unsurprisingly never mentions riots or voices any support for violence. Watch the interview, you are a liar. I'm sure it was probably hard to see Democrats condemning violence with your head up your ass, nevertheless it happened publicly and at the highest levels. Again, you are liar. Both Biden and Harris condemned riots and violence last year on multiple occasions. They expressed support for peaceful protest. In August, Biden said, "I want to be very clear about all of this: Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It's wrong in every way." Harris distinguished between peaceful and violent protest in her own August statement, saying, "We must always defend peaceful protest and peaceful protesters. We should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence." She added, "We will not let these vigilantes and extremists derail the path to justice." In October, Biden and Harris issued a joint statement following the fatal police shooting of Walter Wallace Jr., a Black man in Philadelphia who was carrying a knife during what his family said was a mental health crisis. Biden and Harris said that "no amount of anger at the very real injustices in our society excuses violence" and that "looting is not a protest, it is a crime." Michael Brown's family and friends described him as a gentle giant, not the "MSM" and as already shown too you, essentially every network and site publicized the robbery video on the day it was released. You are a liar. AFAIK, Mays shooting is unsolved. You're welcome to post evidence (lol) to the contrary. But why would you expect national commentary on it anyway? Perhaps your Special TV that shows you news from the future has shown you more of the story. You are (probably) a liar, but I'll withhold judgement pending any substantiation. I won't hold my breath. I don't know how a person gets the way you are, just constitutionally incapable of telling the truth. Jeebus.

You are a liar. The entire goddamn speech is an appeal for unity, understanding and love. And it was a pretty good one. There is literally no way to honestly construe that speech as supportive of violence. Seriously, that's the exact opposite of any literal, figurative or contextual reading. You don't have to like it, but the absurd spin you're trying to put on it is profoundly dishonest. I challenge anyone to click that link, read the speech and try find any inkling of support for violence. It's simply not there.

There is no substance to debate. Your claims are utterly without merit. Plain stupid, actually. You can't support your claims. You can't find an example of anyone in either administration who supported violence. You've been revealed as a liar again. So what is left to debate? If you don't want to learn the difference between infer and imply, fine. You've never been much interested in learning, so no surprise.

Do you honestly not understand the nature of that confession? The Republicans told the Iranians NOT to release the hostages or negotiate with Carter. To wait a year and they'd pay them back for the favor. It's just plain evil to trade 55 years of actual human suffering for a better chance that you'll get elected. If that vile exchange is "right and true" in your be worldview then you have some very big problems.

You don't have evidence. In you posted links to something entirely different that in no way supports the claim made. Classic naked link bait and switch. Is a bail bondsman pro murder if they front bail money for someone accused of murder? Of course not. Don't be stupid. Community bail funds have very simple core values and they don't have anything to do with supporting crime. They simply believe that a person who happens to have $0 when arrested doesn't deserve to lose their job, house and family while they await trial any more than a person arrested with $1000 (or whatever arbitrary figure).

You have demonstrated over and over again that you have zero interest in facts. You don't use data or evidence to inform your opinions and even when they are delivered to you on a platter you lack the willingness or ability to incorporate them and revise your beliefs. A person who can't or won't use facts themselves absolutely should talk to experts and obey. It's your best chance of success and survival.

You can't even manage to be honest about dictionary definitions. OED Which Word?infer / imply Infer and imply have opposite meanings. The two words can describe the same event, but from different points of view. If a speaker or writer implies something, they suggest it without saying it directly: The article implied that the pilot was responsible for the accident. If you infer something from what a speaker or writer says, you come to the conclusion that this is what they mean: I inferred from the article that the pilot was responsible for the accident. Infer is now often used in informal speech with the same meaning as imply: Are you inferring that I’m a liar? However, this is still considered incorrect in standard English. Obama didn't "infer" anything while speaking. You mean to accuse him of "implying" something. Rather, you inferred something from his speech that was absurd because of your delusional alternate reality and extremely fuct version of "logic." Again, let the record show that you can't produce a single statement from anyone in either administration supporting violence. You have only your delusions and lies. Not a single statement supporting violence, when you claimed that everyone supported violence. Pathetic lies.

1. There are a LOT of people who find the bail bond system, and the unsavory industry it spawned prime examples of the inequity baked into our justice system, and many who support a community funded alternative. It's not any sort of support for violence. It's support for fairness. Oh, and protestors are not necessarily violent. Duh. 2. No, dummy, she's not rallying a graduating class into an army, she's extolling them to stay active and engaged and, yes, angry about the injustice in the world. That's the way change is made. There's a whole speech to provide context. You might try that instead of the excerpted line FOX news told you to "stay angry" about. 3a. Learn the meaning of the word "inferred." 3b. Your interpretation of, again, a full speech worth of context, is insanely far off. There is no way a sane person can construe that speech at pro violence. That's plain flat-earth loony. Get a life.

Jeebus. You're a scumbag in real life too? Most people are worse online, but that kind of dangerous, deceptive behavior is truly deplorable. You can't even be bothered to respect people's wishes about their health and free association? It's fine to have differences of opinion, but regardless of what one believes, one can behave honorably. Shame on you.

No, those events simply do not support your claims. Not even remotely. You'll pretend that they do, in the same way that you pretend to have a special TV that shows you future events, but nobody is buying it outside of your conspiracy fever swamp.

Great, let the record show that you could not produce even a single example of a person in the administration supporting violence, despite claiming that *everyone* did, up to and including the president. I set you a VERY low bar and you couldn't even clear that. Why? Because lying snakes lack legs are are, consequently, notoriously poor jumpers. At least you're predictable.

So after clicking your naked links I can confirm that you've got nothing. Thanks for playing.

Yes, although I think you meant CNN. FWIW, I actually don't have any network news or live TV. I just read and catch the occasional newsworthy clip. When it comes to politics: There are the ignorant and apathetic. There are people with opinions and positions. There are conventional partisans. And then there are deluded people who live in an entirely invented reality. Frankly, I'd take the 1s over 4s all day every day. They are equally ill informed, but the 4s are crazy enough to take action.

You are a pathological liar. How about you produce links to ANYONE in the administration, let alone "everyone" voicing support for "thousands of assaults against police officers with fireworks, molotov cocktails, bricks, rocks, looting, arson, attacking federal buildings, overrunning a police station, and even killing people"? What a waste of time you are.

Jeebus, this thread is next-level projection. Some MAGA a-hole implying that the other side of the political spectrum doesn't value democracy is like a rapist implying that a normal dude doesn't support women's rights. And no, "leftists" don't "believe in democracy as much as anyone else." The fact that they haven't tried to seize power against the will of the voters and are not currently engaged in a nationwide effort lay the groundwork for a sequel make it pretty apparent that they care about democracy a lot more than the right. Stupid, stupid thread. The same fools said the same things about Obama, even though there was never even a whiff of any such intention. It was pure projection, because that's*exactly* what they'd like to do. It's played out just as David Frum assessed: "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." They've lost the debate in the marketplace if ideas. They have no vision for the future. All that's left is fraud and force.

Yeah, I know that's my #1 problem with him: his boorish manners. His lack of decorum is so off-putting that I can't even be bothered with the short-sighted policies, the divisiveness, the politics of spite, the prioritization of self interest, the attempted coup and other trifles.

Nope. Most of those children were quite recently AT the breast. And there's nothing sexual about it. Aside from those points, it is very rare that anyone can actually see anything. It's not like women are keen to pull off their shirts. It's typically done discretely and, like any other feeding, is of little interest to people nearby.

Yes, absolute waste of time and energy. Unredeemable troll. Contributes nothing of value. Forum is cleaner and better in every way if you can eliminate those posts from your view.

Fake news. You don't need a jumpsuit for Donald. Already orange. But in all seriousness, godspeed to these state and local cases. The senate refused to convict him of high crimes and misdemeanors of which he was clearly guilty, but perhaps these lesser charges will stick. After all, of all his crimes, Al Capone finally went down for tax evasion.

I've begun to think that you calling these people "tractors" is not really fair. And I'd like you to stop. Tractors do important work and are useful.

Says the #1 liar on this board. They stated their intentions. Some planned for weeks. Then they executed on their plan. They broke through barricades. They beat police. They hunted for legislators-- Pelosi and Pence specifically. And they successfully disrupted the certification. You're a farking fool if you don't believe they were trying to do exactly what they said they were trying to do. Scratch that, you're just a fool who also happens to believe that. ?‍♂️ Jeebus. I know you deal primarily in unsubstantiated nonsense, but this is an actual document with actual citations. It's not a quote of Quested describing a scene, it's a quote of Chansley as recorded on video. The exact file name of the footage is identified. You're welcome to watch the available footage or file a FOIA request for the exact snippet. Just like every time you get caught red handed telling one of your whopping lies, you dodge and deflect and change the subject. You are a weasel, lacking any honor whatsoever. Holy crap. You've finally caught on. People who commit sedition, I.E. people in that mob, many of whom committed sedition and some of whom have been charged and convicted of sedition. Brilliant. No you can stop parading your ignorance for us.

You are still a shameless liar. Yes, the mob sought explicitly to overturn an election and overthrow our government. That's not even a controversial statement. Chansley is on record, you thick fark, as are others. Do you think they were there to deliver girl scout cookies? Jeebus. Nick Quested, a documentary filmmaker, captured the mood that morning. Jacob Chansley (a.k.a. the QAnon Shaman) proclaimed “this is our 1776,” vowing “Joe Biden is never getting in.” 7 An unnamed woman from Georgia, who said she hosted a podcast dedicated to a new so-called Patriot Party, also proclaimed January 6th to be the new 1776. She added an ominous warning. “I’m not allowed to say what’s going to happen today because everyone’s just going to have to watch. Something’s gonna happen, one way or the other.” 8 Oh, I'm fully aware. Without a shred of evidence, you concocted a stupid conspiracy theory about the FBI "using" retirees to release a statement on the Hunter Biden laptop. And if that weren't dumb enough, you are simply lying about the signatories. Not a single one of them is retired from the FBI. Signed by, Jim Clapper Former Director of National Intelligence Former Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Former Director of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency Former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Mike Hayden Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director, National Security Agency Former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Leon PaneSa Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Secretary of Defense John Brennan Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former White House Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Advisor Former Director, Terrorism Threat Integration Center Former Analyst and Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Thomas Finger Former Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Analysis Former Assistant Secretary for Intelligence and Research, Department of State Former Chair, National Intelligence Council Rick LedgeS Former Deputy Director, National Security Agency John McLaughlin Former Acting Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director, Slavic and Eurasian Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Michael Morell Former Acting Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Mike Vickers Former Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Former Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Doug Wise Former Deputy Director, Defense Intelligence Agency Former Senior CIA Operations Officer Nick Rasmussen Former Director, National Counterterrorism Center Russ Travers Former Acting Director, National Counterterrorism Center Former Deputy Director, National Counterterrorism Center Former Analyst of the Soviet Union and Russia, Defense Intelligence Agency Andy Liepman Former Deputy Director, National Counterterrorism Center Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency John Moseman Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Congressional Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency Former Minority Staff Director, Senate Select CommiSee on Intelligence Larry Pfeiffer Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director, White House Situation Room Jeremy Bash Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief of Staff, Department of Defense Former Chief Counsel, House Permanent Select CommiSee on Intelligence Rodney Snyder Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Intelligence Programs, National Security Council Chief of Station, Central Intelligence Agency Glenn Gerstell Former General Counsel, National Security Agency David B. Buckley Former Inspector General, Central Intelligence Agency Former Democratic Staff Director, House Permanent Select CommiSee on Intelligence Former Counterespionage Case Officer, United States Air Force Nada Bakos Former Analyst and Targeting Officer, Central Intelligence Agency PaSy Brandmaier Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Associate Director for Military Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director of Congressional Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency James B. Bruce Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Senior Intelligence Officer, National Intelligence Council Considerable work related to Russia David Cariens Former Intelligence Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency 50+ Years Working in the Intelligence Community Janice Cariens Former Operational Support Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Paul Kolbe Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief, Central Eurasia Division, Central Intelligence Agency Peter Corsell Former Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency BreS Davis Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director of the Special Activities Center for Expeditionary Operations, CIA Roger Zane George Former National Intelligence Officer Steven L. Hall Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief of Russian Operations, Central Intelligence Agency Kent Harrington Former National Intelligence Officer for East Asia, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Public Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief of Station, Central Intelligence Agency Former Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency Don Hepburn Former Senior National Security Executive Timothy D. Kilbourn Former Dean, Sherman Kent School of Intelligence Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer to President George W. Bush, Central Intelligence Agency Ron Marks Former Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Twice former staff of the Republican Majority Leader Jonna Hiestand Mendez Technical Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Emile Nakhleh Former Director of the Political Islam Strategic Analysis Program, Central Intelligence Agency Former Senior Intelligence Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency Gerald A. O’Shea Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Served four tours as Chief of Station, Central Intelligence Agency David Priess Former Analyst and Manager, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer, Central Intelligence Agency Pam Purcilly Former Deputy Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of the Office of Russian and European Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer to President George W. Bush, Central Intelligence Agency Marc Polymeropoulos Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Acting Chief of Operations for Europe and Eurasia, Central Intelligence Agency Chris Savos Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Officer Nick Shapiro Former Deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor to the Director, Central Intelligence Agency John Sipher Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Chief of Russian Operations, Central Intelligence Agency Stephen Slick Former Senior Director for Intelligence Programs, National Security Council Former Senior Operations Office, Central Intelligence Agency Cynthia Strand Former Deputy Assistant Director for Global Issues, Central Intelligence Agency Greg Tarbell Former Deputy Executive Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Analyst of the Soviet Union and Russia, Central Intelligence Agency David Terry Former Chairman of the National Intelligence Collection Board Former Chief of the PDB, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer to Vice President Dick Cheney, Central Intelligence Agency Greg Treverton Former Chair, National Intelligence Council John Tullius Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency David A. Vanell Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Winston Wiley Former Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief, Counterterrorism Center, Central Intelligence Agency Kristin Wood Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer, Central Intelligence Agency If he was convicted? Jeebus, it's not a hypothetical. He was convicted. And excellent work rebutting a point that no one tried to make. Also true, the Oath Keeper convictions also don't mean that Ben Affleck is guilty of sedition. Or Heidi Klum. Any other individuals we should list? Seditious is an adjective, jackass, not an adverb. It necessarily describes the mob and the people in the mob, but not necessarily the act of rioting. You are the only one who has used the word "seditiously." Many in the mob were indeed seditious and are on record encouraging actions like storming the capitol. And indeed, some have been convicted of sedition already. And again, there's an argument to be made that the very act of storming the capitol was itself a call and encouragement for others to overthrow this government, ala the Boston Tea Party.

Many, many posts later and you are still just asking the exact same stupid questions, as if no one has ever replied to you. Consider starting a blog if you just want to broadcast. Your behavior is like flying a banner to let everyone know that engaging with you is pointless--literally pointless. This kind of trolling is a quick way to get on people's ignore list.