Americana Antifa

Nah, you just find me scary because I remind you that your beliefs are all wrong. I make it harder for you to lie to yourself.

By who? Nazis? Well like I said, I don't think you're actually a secret fascist like Tim Pool. I think you're just the living incarnation of the "enlightened centrist" meme. See, this is part of being an "enlightened centrist." I've told you before that I don't encourage anyone to break laws. Like most anti-fascists, I think we should use violence to defend ourselves, which is legal. And I think we should use sit-ins to block right-wing rallies, which is also legal. But because you want to believe that "both sides" are full of extremists, you have to pretend that the Left is as needlessly violent as the Right.

What if I wear a mask and go BOO! Juicy, but that wasn't the accusation. Y'all said AOC calls anyone who disagree with her bad people. Not that she critiques Democrats who disagree with her. Critiquing people you disagree with is fine, I'm not against that. But surprisingly not too concerned about the far-right. Which is especially suspicious since left-wing extremism is barely a thing, whereas right-wing extremism is so common that it has its own political party. And that was the original point of this topic. Tim Pool claims to be a liberal who dislikes the Right and the Left, but he only criticizes leftists and liberals, while constantly running defense for fascists. The attempted deflection was that AOC only criticizes Republicans, but then the goalposts were moved to her demonizing anyone who disagrees with her, which is obviously another lie. If you think about it, fascism and anti-fascism are the same things. ? So she was criticizing him for a specific issue which she believed was racially motivated. That not the same as demonizing anyone who disagrees with her. And of course, this also proves she doesn't only criticize Republicans. TRUE! Though I would say social democracy is an alright version of capitalism.

So the Republicans are authoritarian, we apparently can agree on that. Would you also agree that hysterical hatred against LGBT people is reactionary? The NY Post is far-right and prints fake news. Give me some examples of left-wing media doing a story about a culture war non-issue the way right-wing media does literally every day.

Yes, but I'm not saying they should be forced to do that. I said at least twice before in this thread, I think people should be allowed to self-segregate however they want. However, just because I think something should be legal, doesn't mean I agree with people doing that thing. I think it should be legal to ban blonde people from your country club, even though I would disagree with that.

I know, right? Why am I comparing people who call for genocide to the nazis? I know, he only called for the eradication of "transgenderism." And it's not like right-wing media, like the Daily Wire which he works at, has caused a massive spike in violence against trans people.

How exactly are you defining communism then? The way it's always been defined is as a stateless and classless society where everyone shares the means of production. You can make the argument that Marx was the first one to lay out plans for bringing about communism on a global scale, but he didn't invent the concept of communism as I just defined it.

I'm asking you an honest question. Asking if you're an incel is irresponsible?

You deflected from my question about you being an incel like most fascists.

No, I already explained to you the difference between sex and gender several times. You kept deflecting like a coward. So are you an incel? I notice that a lot of fascists are.

This is all just angry deflecting from that fact that you're too much of a puss to accept that gender and sex are two different concepts. Serious question, are you an incel?

You're being bad faith because you're a coward again. The AfD is known for being anti-immigration and anti-muslim. That's what their politicians and propaganists spend most of their public time talking about. And the other issues they do pretend to care about are all fear-based too. Stop reminding me that you're a puss, I get it already. Give me examples of Pelosi calling someone a bad person for not agreeing with her. And enough with the crying. I know you're big mad, but you can whine on your own time.

You don't care about debating. You just want to humiliate yourself as much as possible. Is this like a kink for you?

That's nice, but it's beside the point. The point is that Marx and Engels didn't invent communism or socialism. They're both ancient ideas. That's some hardcore projection.

https://www.mic.com/articles/114066/statistics-show-exactly-how-many-times-trans-people-have-attacked-you-in-bathrooms INB4 the stats were compiled by marxist Jews. So I know you're being bad faith because you're a fascist, but this actually is a fair point. Should trans women be allowed in women's sports? Well, most sports leagues only allow trans women on a case by case basis. If a trans woman has been on hormones long enough, then she no longer has an advantage over men in most sports. This is why a trans woman has never won gold in the Olympics. The myth of the man who poses as a trans woman and dominates women's sports is another lie.

Bullshit. The only person you mentioned was AOC, but you didn't give any examples. I asked for examples of AOC saying someone is a bad person for not agreeing with her. I said you were probably just going to deflect. Then, instead of giving me some examples, you wrote a paragraph of deflection. Fantastic. This is almost beautiful in how perfect it is.

Source?

I know, right? It's like when the nazis tried to eradicate jewishness in Germany. Or the Ottomans tried to get rid of all that pesky armenianess.

I've already explained the difference between sex and gender several times. At this point, you understand, you just don't want to accept it. You can admit that you just dislike trans people, you don't need to be such a coward about it. Yeah, they're just talking about "eradicating transgenderism" at every level of society. Of course, this would include banning gender affirming care, which was cause more people with gender dysphoria to commit suicide, which is what you want. This is also being called for while hate crimes against trans people are on the rise due to right-wing media constantly lying about trans people grooming children. Even if that was true, that's not how genocides work. A genocide usually involves a tiny minority of the population actually doing the violence while the vast majority of people let it happen, either because they agree with the genocide, or because it's an authoritarian country so stopping the government is next to impossible. Even if the average right-leaning person would never kill a trans person, every single person who votes for anti-trans policy is responsible for what happens. I can excuse people who voted for Trump in 2016. But since then, Trump and the entire GOP has been so open with their fascism and transphobia, there is no longer an excuse. So look, I know you don't care about trans people, but what do you think is going to happen in a society where it's illegal for people to use a public bathroom of the gender they identify with unless they look like that gender? So many cis people are going to get accused of being trans in right-wing areas, especially with right-wing media becoming more and more transphobic.

Believe me, I wish this wasn't an issue anymore. But because Republicans don't have any popular economic policies, they need to deflect by obsessing over trans people. I wish that the fascist scum Republicans would let people pee in peace.

Would you agree that the Republicans trying to steal the election was authoritarian in that it was against democracy? Does it really? I can list plenty of culture war non-issues that the Right tried to make people care about. Fox News did stories about how Lego went "woke," about how Dr. Seuss and Mr. Potato Head have been "cancelled," about how the green M&M isn't sexy enough for Tucker Carlson anymore, and on and on and on. Can you find any equivalence in left-wing media?

But you understand that isn't her saying someone is a bad person for not agreeing with her, right? She's saying on these specific issues, they're enabling racism. Not that they're bad people for not supporting her no matter what she says or does. This is a common move people use when they can't defend their takes. When the Squad said Trump was being racist for telling them to go back to "their countries," the right-wing media claimed that the Squad calls people racist for not agreeing with them. That's obviously a bad faith deflection, as they couldn't defend Trump's racism in that situation without appearing racist themselves.

We just had Michael Knowles at CPAC saying that "transgenderism" must be "eradicated" and none of the other right-wing pundits or politicians are condemning him. What Knowles said would be bad at any time, but he specifically said it in a time where there has been a massive spike in violence against LGBT because of right-wing media, as well as Republicans making anti-trans laws all across the country. So what are trans people supposed to do in public spaces? Are they just not supposed to use public bathrooms because they look like their gender, but their biological sex isn't the same as most people in that gender? Is a person who looks like Kim Petras just not supposed to use the bathroom because she's not genetically a female? And again, the cities that let people use the bathrooms they want have not seen an increase in harm. This is a non-issue that fascists have made into an issue. First of all, words are decided by the community. Words and even grammar change all the time. The idea that words have objective meanings is wrong. Words are generally used in ways that have the most utility. And when it comes to pronouns, it just gives us the most utility to use pronouns in a way that fits with the identity that people identify as. We can't go by genetics, because we can't give everyone we meet a DNA test. We can't go by privates, because we can't make everyone we meet get naked. We can't go by looks, because plenty of cis people would also get accused of not being their gender. There is literally no reason to not just use language the way trans people want, other than bigotry. If you can think of a better explanation, I'm all ears. Secondly, I agree that people shouldn't be arrested for insulting people. However, when in a public space, I agree that you shouldn't be allowed to insult people based on protected classes. And this is already how it works in most western countries. You can refer to people with racial slurs in America, that's legal. But in a public setting, that can be considered harassment. Jordan Peterson, being dumb as shit, got famous for misinterpreting a bill. All it said was that trans identity is now a protected class, just like age, race, sex, ethnicity, and so on. You can not legally discriminate against someone for being trans, gay, male, female, cis, black, white, or any other protected class. Nobody is saying that should happen. We're saying gender and sex are different. A doctor would treat Kim Petras as a woman whose biological sex is male. Gender affirming therapy is more than just surgery or meds. It can also be something as simple as dressing in a way that fits your gender identity. Not everyone who transitions gets surgery, some people just socially transition. See, this is what right-wing media has done. They want us to equate gender affirming therapy with the most extreme measures. This would be like equating all body modification with amputation of the arms and legs.

Now you're just being bad faith because you know you're wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany "Alternative for Germany (German: Alternative für Deutschland, AfD; German pronunciation: [aːʔɛfˈdeː] (listen)) is a right-wing populist[2] political party in Germany.[3] AfD is known for its Euroskepticism,[4] it also opposes immigration to Germany.[5] The AfD's ideology is positioned on the radical right, a subset of the far-right, within the family of European political parties.[6]" The AfD markets itself as being all about keeping out immigrants, specifically Muslims. Source? You only named AOC, but have yet to provide evidence.

But there's no evidence of that. Like I said, the studies on letting people use the bathrooms they want hasn't caused a rise in violence or any other harm. I see this as being the same as a voter ID law. It's a law that would cause use problems to solve a problem that doesn't actually exist.