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I didn't think this discussion was about provincial curriculum but rather social and discipline and bad attitudes and on and on and on.

No. I may not. Whine away...while investigations may falter, work goes on.

Yada, yada, yada.....and the local school boards do what they want to appease the population in their area.

Not at all, I said it quite succinctly, "Please, please, please, do not "explain" things to me. Your explanations are useless. "

Education is a wholly Provincial jurisdiction. The educational problem is a localized one. One city/town has different issues than the other. To even localize it more, the school boards manipulate it to please their constituents. To even confuse it more, it is the parents of the local area that dictate to the boards what they want. And lastly, schools themselves have a certain amount to leeway to interpret all the BS. So, it ain''t gonna be changed to whatever you think it should be

Big deal. They had an interim commissioner and staff to carry on any work. It is not like they closed the entire office and fired everyone.

I am glad to see your points are what I argued with you about a while ago. It is pure supply and demand and, the supply will not be there if builders cannot make a profit. Another point is that builders want profit but the developers want one too and most importantly, the landlord in the case of rentals units, the person that owns the building, needs to make a profit, not just on the units but to include all the operating costs of that unit and building. While all levels of government certainly account for a portion of the cost building, todays high cost of land, labour and materials is equally to blame.

Please, please, please, do not "explain" things to me. Your explanations are useless. All my life. If you think the doctor shortage is new, clearly you have not lived in Canada. When people I know released from the military 20 years ago, there were no doctors. Took them several years to get a doctor. I got one because my daughter was in nursing school and working in a clinic and heard a doctor was setting up and I got in... Also, you are whining about "family" doctors. Those graduating doctors can go to work where ever and in whatever sector they want. No matter how many graduate or come from elsewhere they can work in any specialty. Putting more through university does in no way guarantee your family will get a doctor. Those folks want to specialize, that is where the money is and they don't have to put up with whiners and complainers like you.

Yes quite. Government bail outs of business is a normal activity.

Duhh, the funding (only 4 million) is delayed. Not even started yet. It was in the article you linked LOL Duhh, they say so but they haven't LOL Yup, run it, poorly by the way, once they get into the health care system, not the educational system . Give it up birdy, they ain't done nuthin yet...and the NDP does nuthin but promise. GFYO. (not in the good way) I do not have the tolerance to deal with stupid and you exceed my limits. Go argue with some other bible thumper...you can both stroke yourselves.

70 point strategy by BC's NDP?? Now that is a laugh. When do the seats become available? Oh, no timeline? LOL You are aware that residency is not university but in hospitals? This post is a continuation of your previous BS post. Lots of blah blah blah and notihng of substance....typical NDP BS.

Providing "start up" funding is hardly government control of medical schools LOL And as you see, they delayed the funding so...no start to it. Being without family doctors is not a BC only issue. Nice try though LOL

Now you are getting it.

This topic is not about my character.\I repeat, You are an !diot. Government has nothing to do with universities pumping out doctors, nurses and other medical staff. It is solely the amount of capacity the university has. Health care begins when they graduate. Government does not have the power to make more medical schools. Medical schools are far more than just seats in classes. That seems to be far to much for you to absorb and decipher. Foreign associations?? WTF are you on abut now LOL Enough dealing with your !diocy, get back on topic or go back to worshipping your book.

You are an !diot. The health care system and university medical schools (of which there are only 16 and have only been 16 for many decades) are very very separate. Every year all medical schools are full of applicants, and upon graduation, 4 years or more later, there are less than 1/2 that started. The government has no control over how many pass the requirements or courses. So, your solution is to force the government to lessen the requirements and standards and allow more to graduate?? By the way, the government does not set the standards or exams....that is the national and provincial medical associations made up of doctors and nurses.

Licensing paper is reality. Like all professional licences, they are as real as it gets. fortunately, you do not need a licence to be stupid...you prove that in all your posts. Errr, wrong. There is no such thing as qualification during study and internship. that only means you attended. All professions have licensing and qualification exams to ensure that you did not just attend your studies but remember and can apply what you have learned. Even in elementary and high schools you have to pass exams to move forward. You are seriously ignorant of standards and requirements.

So, you are saying that the MCCQE Part I is a summative examination that assesses the critical medical knowledge and clinical decision-making ability of a candidate at a level expected of a medical student who is completing his or her medical degree in Canada and all doctors practising in Canada must take and pass is not sufficient validation and verification? What do you have that is a better standard?? You may think you are a smart ass but the gas that passes still stinks.

Are you trying to say things should not have changed in the past 35 years??? What is this "massive social experiment" you are referencing? Once again, I suggest you get sober and then post again LOL

Whaaat? Sober up and try posting again. LOL No, government cannot solve graduation rates at universities...... unless they lower the standards. So, are you saying that if they pass the licences exams they should still not be able to practice in Canada because they come form a country you don't like? Control?? The Licentiate of the Medical Council of Canada (LMCC) is a part of the Canadian Standard for independent practice, the set of requirements such as passing the MCCQE1 exam for an award of a full unrestricted license to practice in Canada. The Medical Council of Canada (MCC) grants the LMCC to doctors. All doctors in Canada must pass. What paper?? Most importantly is that neither the government or you can force a graduating (or practising) medical doctor or nurse to work anywhere. They choose, not you.

BS, all classes are full. Have been since my daughter started over 10 years ago. Thing is, less than half graduate. they quit. Cannot snap your finger and make more classes and teachers and equipment for teaching, let alone dumping interns into the hospitals. No amount of funding will have any impact without straining the existing medical workers system now. Also, if they dump a truckload of money now, no impact for at least 10+ years.Years to build schools, buy equipment, 4 to 10 years of study and then, the graduates will choose where they want to work, not where you want them . Government did not freeze anything, infrastructure and demand is the restriction. There are only 17 medical schools in Canada and 6 of them in Ontario. Been that way for decades. Smell the reality.

Smell the classrooms and professors girl...it is a fact. You cannot snap your fingers and have dozens more classes and you cannot ensure they all pass. As for bringing them in...there are tests that licence doctors and nurses. Every province has them (and they are all different that is why Canadian medical people have troublemoving between provinces.)

What the hell is that?? "illiberal progressive ideology"? And in particular parents demands.

Well, looking at that realistically, all university medical schools have been pumping out as many as they could. Every new class has been full (not saying that they all graduated). Again, realistically, saying just to add more makes no sense either. There are only so many professors or doctors or nurses willing to teach. You can't just make more medical classrooms. they are very technical and complicated. They are not Grade 14 or 15 lecture halls. From a university point of view, it is much easier (and profitable) to get students through a leisure studies or music or liberal arts degree and less cost than medical. Even engineering requires less technical equipment than medical. Then, as you bring it up, there is the internship. For every medical student or intern, you need to have supervisory medical staff and that robs the hospitals of active service staff. Nurses, 4 years, doctors 8 + years to be able to work. I am not sure of the enrolment to graduating percentage but my daughters graduating nurses class was 50% of the ones she started with. I am pretty sure there are lots of doctors that do not graduate too. As for dentists, yes, there are many, so many. In my area there are as many dentist as offices as cannabis shops lol. No explanation.

So, it is the teachers?? Or is it the parents that don't want their precious kid disciplined for poor behaviour? Or is it the school boards that want to be non offensive to everyone?

While I agree the education system in Canada is a mess, I am not going to blame immigration or immigrants for the situation. Perhaps there is problems with students but more often than not, it is entitlements that students think they deserve. for that I blame parents, teachers and teachers unions, Teachers (many but not all) and teachers unions are not in it for teaching but for their own gains, in salary, benefits and pensions. I think students (and the parents of them) expect a lot more from school than they deserve. Students have been told and taught that they are special when in fact, they are all the same. It is parents expectation that their kid being different and treated special that causes issues.