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OK, we are getting close to the same page... well same chapter anyway My total point, which has become a real debate is, I am not religious and certainly not what some have called me and religion has, in itself been a problem and may still be (Middle East right now).

OK "originally and its significance to you is debatable" and that is what I am doing, debating it. Every part of society has a rule book. Every country, business, school, place of worship (your choice). Some have only 10, others have volumes of books with rules. All are equally as important to the persons or persons that they are directed to. All faiths have despicable parts in their history.

Cause and effect but you did not address the question "What is "living in sin"? " Is the priest sticking it to little boys a sin? And the church covering it up a sin? Whrt if I only go on good friday, easter sunday and christmas?? Will I get enough knowledge?? LOL

What I understand is that through the Christianization of the Roman Empire that slavery was not lessened. The domination of the church upon the people made them slaves to the church and its doctrine. I have travelled extensively over Europe and especially Italy. In the smallest mountain villages are incredible churches, took 100 and more years to build and the people gave everything except essentials to the church, In major cities the main churches took as much as 600 years to build (Duomo in Milan). The people were slaves to the church. The church is embarrassingly rich....all from believers. (the Vatican museum can only hold 10% of it's riches) Every king, queen, knight, serf and soldier lived and died within the embrace of the Catholic faith. The inquisition is a perfect example of vile religious domination. The inquisition tortured and killed people that did not abide by the churches demands. Actually, the Renaissance was a fervent period of European cultural, artistic, political and economic “rebirth” following the Middle Ages, not for the church at all. I will agree the bible was an important book because the church dominated every aspect of life. Although I will not agree it was the most important in "literary perspective". (The Divine Comedy, Canterbury Takes, Ribaiyat) I, in no way, am attempting to erase history. What you do need to understand is that in those historical times, the church was the dictator and slave master even more than the kings, queens and, dictators . It ran everything, every aspect of everyones life. Again, I do not need to be converted.

What is "living in sin"? Boinking a hooker? Smoking a joint? Or not going to church on sundays? Or just going to church on good friday and easter sunday and being a hypocrite?

Seriously?? I am being accused of fascism because I do not see things your way??? Seems to me you define fascism. I take nothing for granted. I am very much a capitalist. You get what you earn. Who is taking anything away from anyone? I do not have a religion and do not care about it. I take nothing from you and why are you concerned about my thought and opinions on religion? Are you trying to convert me? Like the guys at the door with the watchtower pamphlet?? Who is a "soul-less individual"? Are all non christians "soul less"? Pretty unchiristian of you LOL

Oh stop LOL You are aware that until mid to end 1800's (and even later in the case of Spain and Italy) Europe was a world of fiefdoms, kings, queens and dictators? Are you aware that the church was the eminent dictator of most of Europe? Every king, queen, knight, serf and soldier lived and died within the embrace of the Catholic faith. The inquisition is a perfect example of vile religious domination.

Yes and??? If they do not follow the bible does that threaten your life?? The answer is a big NO.

Are you implying that not following the bible is akin to doing something that threatens your life?

OK, your opinion, not mine.Is that OK? Mesopotamians ? What do they have to do with the bibke? "Mesopotamian religion was polytheistic, with followers worshipping several main gods and thousands of minor gods. The three main gods were Ea (Sumerian: Enki), the god of wisdom and magic, Anu (Sumerian: An), the sky god, and Enlil (Ellil), the god of earth, storms and agriculture and the controller of fates" I care not who leads or continues this discussion. I am not religious. If the bible has merit, so does the Koran, Vedas, Tripitakas or Torah. Which one is more important than the other? Considering christianity is only 30% of the worlds religion, why do you think the bible is THE book we should follow? Politics, religion and food, the most debated subjects and we all have opinions on each. What is working and what is not working is also an opinion and we all have different take on them. We are allowed and being shit upon or criticized or demeaned for those opinions seems unchristian to me LOL Once again, I am not religious, I care not about the bible and do not think it is the "rule" book for us all.

Have no clue what you are trying to convey. You just seem anti everything LOL

1. Why? I a not religious so, the bible is insignificant for me. 2. The bible lays no foundation to anything except to some christians. And then the christians do not follow it anyway. I promote nothing and your accusations just prove my point that christians do not follow their own religion LOL Why is it so important to you that I see your "christian" way?? I told you in the beginning I am not religious. Are you trying to convert me? Wars in history are basically religious with a few exceptions of enveloping land. Is your "book" against war or promote war in defence of christianity?

Edited to answer your edits: 1.Yes. As I said, "Considering only 30% of the world is christian, the bible is just another book on the rack LOL " so the book is really insignificant. It does not, in any way "lays the foundations for stable, productive society. " except for perhaps christians and they don't seem to abide by it anyway. 2. Correct, not important at all. Religion is not even a little bit important to me. 3. Yes.

Considering only 30% of the world is christian, the bible is just another book on the rack LOL

Not a fan of either man but I disagree with you. Trudeau has been in power too long, thinks he is king. PP is just saying what people want to hear, he can say anything because he is under no obligation to keep his promises.. This is a phenomenon that happens to all PM's after 2 terms. PP will be different, for the first term anyway, after that, we can only imagine.

You do have to get over my posting of your selfie. I can see it has affected every one of your posts. It bothers you far too much that we all know what you look like now LOL. "It appears that you are expressing your disapproval and disappointment towards the content and behavior you perceive from the AI. Your concern about the AI's reputation and how others might view it seems genuine. However, it is essential to remember that AI, like any technology, reflects the intentions and values of its creators and users. It is crucial to focus on promoting positive and constructive discussions, fostering understanding, and encouraging growth in all aspects of our interactions."

Michael, "oil and gas extraction (16 per cent), utilities (7 per cent), primary metal manufacturing (6 per cent) and petroleum and coal products manufacturing (five per cent)." are our worst polluters and considering we export most of that, we do not pay, the buyers/importers pay.

The UN gave the Jews Israel...lock, stock and barrel. The land and everything on it.

No testament

Calm down puppy, calm down. You will be OK when your meds take affect. Get over me posting your selfie....that has run it's course. Seems still agitates you though LOL

Poor baby. You cannot understand you tripped over your tongue. We all see it though. Trudeau sent out his Easter message to Christians, you missed it, as you do with so many things LOL Calm down, calm down. You will be OK LOL

Still confused but when the meds take effect, it will become clear. LOL You shouldn't stay off them for so long, it really messes you up LOL

Awwww, off your meds again I see LOL Just used your words....and they bit you in your butt LOL I meant....I said....I wanted to say....calm down puppy, take a pill and mellow out LOL

Imagine the world, all 195 countries at last count, announcing and signing a global climate treaties and none of the countries meet their announced targets??? Including Canada...the supposed very wealthy country. We should be embarrassed not penalizing our citizens more and more. Oh wait, that is what is happening now. To me, these accords are all pie in the sky.

It's OK...take a pill for your problem. Check with Mayo Clinic, they have something for your condition I am sure LOL Oh and your insults are getting so repetitive and lame too LOL