Hudson Jones

Where have I called Israel a cancer? I may have called Zionism a cancer that needs to be removed because it is a disgusting and racist ideology and is something which needs to be condemned and removed.

Rue has a habit of trying to pass what he thinks in his head as facts. He has a habit of inventing things. Here is a re-cap of some of the things he's been wrong about in this thread: - Benny Morris, a professor of history who has written numerous books on the history of the region is in fact a historian. - Israel does NOT pay back the $3 billion + money it receives from the U.S. (especially not with interest) - 50+ racist Israeli laws DO exist and there IS proof of this - Despite Rue's invention of what I have said and believe, I have NEVER expressed my desire for Israel to be exterminated because that's not what I want. Despite its questionable creation, I support the State of Israel within the legal borders as according to international law. Rue is not right in the head.

Look how well things turned out for Bradley Manning. I bet Bradley Manning was sitting in solitary confinementand thinking, "boy! I'm so glad I thought I was going to be protected by the rules and policies of this beautiful, democratic nation."

I've read 3 of your posts in this thread and in each one, you have repeated mistakes and misinformation: #1 - Your ridiculous comments about Benny Morris not being a historian #2 - Your other ridiculous statement that Israel pays back the welfare money it receives every year with interest #3 - Your comment below: I have posted the link a few times, but it looks like you're too busy trying to express your bewildered and incoherent thoughts that you fail to actually read. Here are some of the laws. The rest can be found in the link I have already provided. Title Theme Enacted Civil Wrongs Law - Amendment No. 8 (Liability of the State) 1967 Occupied Territories 2012 Criminal Procedure Law - Interrogating Suspects - Amendment No. 6 Criminal Law and Procedures 2012 Income Tax Ordinance - Amendment No. 191 1967 Occupied Territories 2012 Israeli Prisons Ordinance Amendment No. 43 - Prisoner-Attorney Meet... Criminal Law and Procedures 2012 Israeli Prisons Ordinance - Amendment No. 40 (Meetings with Lawyers) Criminal Law and Procedures 2011 "Anti-Boycott Law" - Prevention of Damage to the State of Israel th... Civil and Political Rights 2011 Foreign Property Ownership - Israel Lands Law (Amendment No. 3) Land and Planning Rights 2011 "Admissions Committees Law" - Cooperative Societies Ordinance - Ame... Land and Planning Rights 2011 Citizenship Law - Amendment No. 10 Citizenship 2011 "Nakba Law" - Amendment No. 40 to the Budgets Foundations Law Civil and Political Rights 2011 I hope you take this time to learn a little about Israel's 50+ racist and discriminatory laws.

I'm not here to change your mind. I'm only here to fight for justice and debunk the misinformation and call out those who fail to back up any of their claims and dismiss facts because it does not coincide with the imaginary world they want to create. What Hamas does in the Gaza has nothing to do the 50+ racist laws Israel has against a group of people. However insignificant compared to Israel's violations, what Hamas does is condemned by me, you and the West. Israel's human rights violations, however, are not condemned and are even encouraged by our governments and the Zionists. Again, the facts show that Israel, a supposed democracy, has 50+ racist laws against the Palestinians.

Majority of the people in the West, including our governments condemn Hamas' violations - which totally dwarf against Israel's violations of human rights. The big problem here is that some, including our governments do not condemn and in fact, encourage Israel's many violations of human rights, including their actions against a group of their own citizens. And, I like to quote myself: Then you have the hardcore Zionists such as you, who, despite the clear facts on the ground (Like Israel's 50+ racist policies), still try to deny, twist and take attention from the obvious injustices that Israel practices.

So you failed again to give any examples of Canada or United States' racist policies. Our governments and pretty much the majority of people do not support Hamas or any of their policies that violate human rights. Of course, neither do I, as I have stated many times before. On the contrary, our governments still support Israel, despite their many racist policies both inside Israel and in the occupied territories against the Palestinians. Policies that would never be accepted in Canada against another group of people. Some people here in the West, more so in the United States, also support Israel, despite their policies. The reason for their support is usually because of the superficial understanding of the situation which is due to government officials who have been bought out by lobby groups and also due to the lazy, sometimes self-censoring mainstream media. Then you have the hardcore Zionists such as you, who, despite the clear facts on the ground (Like Israel's 50+ racist policies), still try to deny, twist and take attention from the obvious injustices that Israel practices.

Talk to me when you have specific examples, otherwise it's just more BC2004 hot air.

You're getting pretty desperate with your comments. It sounds like the frustration of someone who is not able to explain away a racist state and their reason for advocating a racist state. You and BC2004 have tried to draw a parallel between Israel's many racist policies to policies in Canada and U.S., but you have failed miserably. This explains your frustration. I guess now it's time for you to tell us more about racist Canadian policies from 100 years ago or racist policies of Arab countries to try to excuse Israel's racist policies! "But Israel is "just like" Canada was...... 100 years ago! But Israel is "just like" Arab states who may have racist policies! Yeah!"

I'm an advocate of truth and justice. What are you an advocate of?

What is about the Indian Act is racist and how does it relate to and compare to any of the more than 50 racist laws in Israel? Be more specific.

Would any of the 50 racist laws in Israel be allowed in Canada? No. Were you or BC2004 and the rest of the die-hard Zionists able to find racist laws in Canada and U.S. that would respond to your claim that Israel is the same as U.S. and Canada? No. Looks like another lost battle. I guess it's time for you to start comparing Israel to countries from 100 years ago and/or try to change the subject in order to take attention away from the fact that Israel is a racist country and you're an advocate of this racist country.

Even in the Palestinian territories, which Canada does not support, you will not see over 50 racist laws against a particular ethnic group. The image that you and many Zionists want to create is that Israel is a true democracy, when in reality it is a racist state, with racist policies, not only against the Palestinians they are occupying, but also the Palestinian Israeli citizens. You will not find any other country which is considered a democracy to have so many blatant, racist and discriminatory laws against one particular ethnic group. It's time to be honest about Israel and how it is a racist state which practices democracy within 80% of the population while there are over 50 laws created that discriminate against 20% of the population of Israel, who are Palestinian Israelis.

Israel is receiving over $3 billion in welfare money every year.

Uhm. So that's BC2004 and AW who haven't been able to find any racist laws in Canada and U.S. despite their attempt to draw a parallel to Israel's racist and discriminatory policies. Anyone else? And let me bring back the facts below, so we can get back on track: Discriminatory Laws in Israel There are more than 50 Israeli laws that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of Israel in all areas of life, including their rights to political participation, access to land, education, state budget resources, and criminal procedures. Some of the laws also violate the rights of Palestinians living in the 1967 OPT and Palestinian refugees. Link

Here is another chance for you to name one of these racist laws that we have in U.S. and Canada. BC2004 failed and you will too in providing any examples. It's time for you to show a little integrity and admit that Canada or U.S. would not allow any of the racist laws that Israel has against the one particular group.

Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the main players supporting the opposition in Syria with their massive piggy banks. Egypt was not really a player, but only part of the Sunni unity voice against the Shiite Syrian leader. The Egyptian military is part of the old system, who had a crucial role in keeping Mubarak in power for so long, and it saw an opportunity to jump in to gain more power. As someone mentioned earlier, Morsi had been working hard to get rid of the old system. In that process, he made moves which were contrary to what many of the people actually wanted. I'm sure the Egyptian military will do their best to put in "their guy", but one thing is certain; The Egyptian people are no push-overs.

"A military coup in Egypt yesterday resulted in the removal and imprisonment of the elected president, Mohamed Morsi, a closure of media outlets sympathetic to him, the house arrest of his advisors, and the suspension of the constitution. The military that overthrew Morsi is the main recipient of the $1.3 billion yearly US aid package to Egypt. You could say that the US 'owns' the Egyptian military that just overthrew its democratically-elected leader. " http://tinyurl.com/qgmb7cz Ron Paul is once again correct.

None of the 50+ racist laws in Israel would be accepted in Canada or U.S. This makes Israel a racist state and Canada and U.S. unlike Israel.

You can keep saying Canada is like Israel when it comes to racist laws and you were challenged to prove this by showing these racist laws. However you failed, because there aren't any.

Interesting info: Bolivia and Peru are experiencing major shortage of quinoa, since becoming so popular in the West. The price of quinoa has gone up seven times since 2000. This means what once used to be part of the everyday diet of many Bolivians and Peruvians, is now too expensive to get. Instead, they are being shipped to us. Food distribution is of course a problem, as is food waste, but the biggest problem we will be facing on our planet will be food and water shortage. That is of course if we continue moving forward the way we are.

You are desperately holding onto a ridiculous and asinine argument. You need to comprehend that Canada's treatment of the natives in the past (over 100 years ago) would not be accepted in a real democratic country today, just like they are not accepted in Canada and U.S. today. This is why none of the racist laws in Israel would ever be accepted in Canada or U.S. today. Israel is a racist country and they have the laws and actions to prove it.

Racism is racism. If you want, we can discuss treatment of Palestinians and Jews in the occupied territories in another thread. Let's focus on the treatment of Palestinian Israelis in Israel, since this is what this thread is about. Have you had a chance to look over the over 50 racist laws against the Palestinian Israelis in Israel? Racist laws that would never be accepted in a real democratic state like Canada and U.S., but unfortunately, our governments are too weak to be truthful about due to the powerful Zionist Israeli lobby. BC2004 gave it a shot and tried to say that Canada is exactly like Israel, but he fell flat on his face when he tried to show a law that would come anywhere close to any of the over racist 50 Israeli laws.

It seems difficult for you to comprehend that I'm not talking about Palestinians that are not living and are not citizens of Israel. I'm talking about Palestinian Israelis, who are citizens of Israel, who are discriminated against in Israel. As mentioned, there are over 50 racist laws, targeting Palestinian citizens of Israel. Why do you put such a battle against the simple fact that there are over 50 racist and discriminating laws against Palestinians? Are you denying that these laws exist against a particular group of Israeli citizens?

lol! Really? All that digging and you found this? "Use of a term" as compared to this: Discriminatory Laws in Israel There are more than 50 Israeli laws that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of Israel in all areas of life, including their rights to political participation, access to land, education, state budget resources, and criminal procedures. Some of the laws also violate the rights of Palestinians living in the 1967 OPT and Palestinian refugees. Link Canada is exactly like Israel! You have done it again!