BeaverFever
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So it was a disorganized amd uncoordinated insurrection….so what? Trump supporters aren’t exactly the organzed type anyway. More like impulsive idiots who have no idea ehat theyll be saying or doing a few days from now amd barely remember what they said or did a few days ago. It’s entirely likely that Trump organized and instigated the insurrection entirely by accident, he’s such a selfish idiot who can’t foresee m the obvious consequences of his vile self-serving lies and rhetoric. I wonder if any Trump terrorists will he conducting attacks tomorrow to commemorate their failed coup attempt I guess we’ll need to keep an ear out in case the daily mass shootings that Americans are so accustomed to see an increase above the usual average. Or maybe someone will follow in the footsteps of previous extreme right wing terrorists and bomb the federal building in Oklahoma City?
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You are clearly uneducated. We vaccinated people understand far better than you and other anti-vax dummies that the vaccine has limitations and isn’t a magic shield. Bit we also understand it lowers the chance of infection, transmission and the likelihood of severe symptoms. But to comprehend that type of perspective you would have to not be another dummy dropout with child-like mental reasoning. Your idiotic rant aside, your own Dear Leader Trump promotes vaccines, is triple vaccinated, and wants full credit for developing and rolling out vaccines. What do you say to that?
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Ah when you pull out the “king of wrong” line its a tell that you know you’ve been busted. You know the old tactic of’when you’re caught lying the first words out of your mouth should be to call your accuser a liar and when you’re caught stealing the first words should be to call your accuser a thief’. Still not seeing any link “proving” anyone vowed to never take a vaccine developed by Trump. And trusting science to the scientists instead of your favourite politician is just plain common sense to anyone who’s not a brainwashed mindless worshipper of a wannabe failed dictator.
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A right wing blog repeating the same ridiculous bullshit lies is not proof of anything. Show me the line in the constitution that says the VP has the sole power to unilaterally decree what is and isn’t constitutional according to his own personal whims and private beliefs totally outside of the courts or any other formal process? Nowhere. Because that’s not how democracies work and anyone with even a basic understanding of the difference between democracy and autocracy would kind of know that instinctively. I meant there’s this whole complex court system and a Supreme Court set up to rule on constitutional issues amd they dismissed all of Trumps ridiculous election lies as obviously baseless…. yet you believe that the US constitution allows the VP, who isn’t even required to have any legal knowledge whatsoever, has the power of one-man rule by decree on the constitutionality of election results according to his personal whims and superstitions? Especially when the VP himself is on the ballot? Ridiculous. It all just seems so….convenient
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That claim is completely false and you’re a gullible sucker for believing it You guys have thousands of these accusations all of them absolutely unproven and discredited. The election ended over a year ago and still not one shred of evidence for Trumps clearly false BIG LIE has emerged despite the Right claiming back then that they had all the evidence and it is overwhelming Its funny every time a Republican wins in court you say “THE SYSTEM HAS PROVEN US RIGHT WE HAVE BEEN VINDICATED” and every time you lose in court you say THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST US ITS A VAST CONSPIRACY” This kind of mindset of yours proves your a radical extremist because unlike most rational people once you choose to believe there’s absolutely NO form of evidence or information that could convince you to modify your view. You will always invent some sloppy half-baked nonsensical conspiracy theory to explain why the inconvenient facts are fake and your beliefs are wrong The reason I chide you so much about being am uneducated high school dropout is because this type of rigid thinking about the world and conspiracy mindset is a hallmark of dropouts who look for ways to still feel smarter thanks everyone else To change their opinion on something, even in response to new information, in their mind means admitting they were wrong. And admitting they were wrong in their mind makes them feel like they’re stupid. And dropouts are usually people who are particularly insecure about this because for much of their lives or during their formative years at least they felt stupid or were made to feel stupid by others, probably a reason that they dropped out to begin with Anyways this is just a long way of saying that you’re repeating unproven or discredited lies and inventing conspiracy theories to explain why they’re really true even though by all objective assessment they are completely false Being wrong isn’t what makes you and yours seem stupid here. Even very smart and wise people are often wrong or make mistakes, and they admit it and learn from it. But the way you guys now just go straight to the absurd doubling down on obviously false info in the hopes that the world won’t see you as wrong as long as you refuse to accept reality…..that’s what makes you folks seem so stupid
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Complete and total lie, Full stop. From another idiotic anti-vax and election BIG LIE conspiracy nut who can’t tell reality from his own uneducated fantasy world this whole post is just so rich. If only you had stayed in school instead of getting your information from Facebook memes created by Russian troll farms and other uneducated dummies.
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FACT: of the approx 700 or so Jan 6 traitors who have been charged over the past year, only around 50 or so of the have been sentenced, FACT: less than half of those 50 or who have been convicted were sentenced to prison FACT: prison time for those who plead guilty to non-violent offences were capped at a max of 6 months if there was any prison time at all. FACT: The harshest sentence handled down so far, which included assaulting and injuring police, was a little over 5 years but most of the few who were sent to prison had sentences between a few months and 3.5 years. Ashli Babbit was not a hero or a martyr and the only tragedy of her death was her tragic stupidity in falling for obviously false Trumps election lies. Believing him literally cost her her life. The Jan 6 traitors behind bars are not peaceful protesters or political prisoners they are violent insurrectionists trying to end nearly 2 and a half centuries of American democracy.
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Omg you’re just repeating year-old discredited claims that were laughed out of the Krakken krakkpot lawsuit hearings. There are legitimate out-of -state voters such as military and college students and various other people temporarily elsewhere such as temporary work assignment who mail their ballots back to their home state.
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For the hundreth time stop trying to compare Trumps election lies and coup attempt with then usual objections politicians for BOTH parties have occasionally raised over the years. They’re not even close amd anyone looking at the facts honestly can see the difference. As I said before there’s a difference between: 1) an athlete who criticizes and disagrees with a referees call but accepts that’s how the game goes sometimes and concedes defeat and 2) an athlete who baselessly and without any evidence accuses the referee, the league officials and half the members of his own team of being corrupt and secretly participating in vast and far-reaching conspiracy with all the world’s most hated villains to rig the entire sport against him and them incites a group of his die-hard fans to riot, simply because he didn’t win the game. You can’t pretend they’re even remotely the same. I bet it never occurred to any of you that Al Gore was the VP at the time of the Bush victory and never claimed to have secret VP powers that would allow him to unilaterally declare himself the election winner. He did his job and ratified the election of Dubya even though the Dems greatly disagreed with the Republican majority Supreme Court decision that ruled Dubyas brother Jeb was entitled to legally rig the recount in his brothers favour. Gore rightly took his case through the due process channels and was successful enough to go all the way to the Supreme Court and lost his on a split decision that was split right down party lines that is still controversial today. It’s since been estancia that if the entire state of Florida had been recounted instead of just the districts hand-picked by Jebs staff, Gore would have been president. And yet when the Supreme Court ruled for the Bushes, Gore conceded and them ratified the results. There’s no qay you can compare that to Trumps coup attempt.
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AHAHAHAH. “Cite the statute that makes it illegal” You crack me up Thats not how constitutions work, stupid Once again we find something you would have learned If you hadn’t dropped out of high school Powers of office and the means of election are prescribed. You don’t just get to make up random shit on the spot and say “well it doesn’t specifically say I can’t do it”. How fucking stupid does a person have to be to believe the US constitution with all its complicated checks and balances allows the vice president, at his sole personal discretion, to simply set aside the results of an election ratified by the states and simply declare himself the winner ?? “WELL AH RECKON IT DON’T SAY HE CANT HYUK HYUK” Jordans claims were not “well thought out” and they have no basis in any law, which is why it was ignored. All the House did was cut out the irrelevant and vague reference that supposedly gave his scam legitimacy but doesn’t.
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Putin Dummying Another Dem President
BeaverFever replied to WestCanMan's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Judging by your comments on another thread, apparently all Biden needs to do is send a tweet saying “stay peaceful” and you’ll be in awe of his bold and decisive action, right? ? -
Ann coulter is toxic crackpot and her words have been poisonous garbage for decades. The Republicans didn’t simply “question the results of the election” they tried to overturn the results with baseless lies and frivolous lawsuits where they had no evidence and they knew it. They didn’t simply explore “every legal option” They blatantly tried to pressure officials from Mike Pence all the way down to state election officials to abuse the power of their office and award him votes under false or pretences. Part of that pressure involved sending an angry mob to the Capitol to try and scare congressmen into not ratifying the election. I’m sure Trump and his staff didn’t expect the mob would actually breach the building but of course he and his goons are stupid and short-sighted enough to have not expected the completely predictable outcome
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Funny how you draw a clear distinction between peaceful trup protesters and Capitol rioters but you’re totally incapable of distinguishing between peaceful BLM protesters and rioters. And now your new idiocy is to try and pretend Trumps tweeting that ENCOURAGED the rioters is taking bold action. If Trump had tweet harshest condemnations of the violence the world had ever seen it would still not count as taking action BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING TWEET FOR CHRISTS SAKE. Especially considering that own people were imploring him to make a live public appeal. Encouraging the rioters with his lies then adding the words “stay peaceful” doesn’t count as doing anything but promoting this treasonous act.
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LMAO wow 6 posts aimed at me I really got you triggered! I get it this is a tough time of year for you, all alone during the holidays and such but chill out man. Don’t let the political views of complete a stranger on the internet get under your skin like that. It’s not healthy. Your whole idiotic argument is that because many BLM rioters remain unidentified and eluded justice, authorities should purposely not go after any easily identifiable Capitol rioters in order to be “even “ Or some idiotic argument like that Maybe if the Trump-tarrds hadn’t been so stupid as to tale selfies of themselves and their fellow insurrectionists and brag all over social media, they would have escaped justice too Many of the BLM rioters who were caught receved harsh penalties so far we haven’t seen to many harsh penalties from the Capitol coup attempt Lastly. Trump played a direct role in organizing the rally and then inciting the mob to riot and tweeting encouraging sentiments as the riot was unfolding. Obama neither organized nor spoke at any BLM riots nor egged them on…..simply being a black man who dares to admit systemic racism is real doesn’t make him responsible And Obama condemned the violence he didn’t just tweet “stay peaceful” while egging them on like Trump did As for your line-line takedown you seem to be desperate to just find whatever disagreement you can and you’ve totally forgotten the whole point of discussing BLM vs Capitol riot: The Republican lie is their claim that BLM rioters were given light punishments while Capitol rioters were given harsh punishments. Instead you’re responding to the article justifying all the examples of harsh BLM sentences and light Capitol sentences. Maybe they are justified bit it’s still disproves the Republican lie. And then your rebuttals to other parts of that story really just boils down to “I don’t like what I’m reading so I’m just going to say it’s a lie” Meanwhile you lie that Dems “cheered” the BLM riots, and that the AP didn’t cover it. You’re so desperate. Try not to get too triggered over my posts. Stay safe over the holidays and please call a crisis line if you start to feel too lonely or distressed
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As already stated send out a couple of tweets doesn’t count as taking action or doing something. Responding by Tweeting is pretty much the definition of doing nothing and if you weren’t such a gullible brainwashed little worshiper of that idiotic failed ex-president you wouldn’t be trying to claim otherwise. He also tweeted messages And his weak tweets didn’t even condemn the rioting, in fact he egged them on by repeating his lies and his accusations against pence. Its also a lie that Obama never tweeted anything during the BLM riots Just like you lied about the supposed George Floyd bodycam footage that completely exonerated the now-convicted murdeer cop. But this is a red herring argument because we’ve already established that simply tweeting about something is not a response
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Not false at all. 1:10 pm to 4:17 pm when he released a recording condemning the violence is 187 minutes. The tweets he sent in between with vague references to “staying peaceful” without actually acknowledging much less condemning the violence and security breach don’t count as “taking action”. Especially since many of those tweets fanned the flames and validated the rioters sense of outrage by repeating his election lies and denouncements of mike pence, even after he was informed that the Capitol was breached and Pence had been placed in protection and removed from the chamber Even his final recording video told the rioters “e love you, you’re very special” and neither acknowledged nor condemned the violence. Simply saying “go home now” doesn’t count either.
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You’re just totally making up the part about it being “a little corner”. How many of them would it take to lynch an elderly man anyway? How many murderous extremists in your ranks is a non-significant number? Even if 75% of the rioters were non-violent protesters and 25% were terrorists bent on murder, does that make it ok in Fiddle excuse land? The anti-Trump protests weren’t trying to storm the Capitol, overthow the government or overturn the results of the election They were just protests in the street False equivalence, once again
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Authorities Harder On George Floyd Protesters Than Jan. 6 Rioters: Report Republicans claim the Justice Department is treating alleged insurrectionists harshly because of their political views, but court records tell a different story. 08/30/2021 05:17pm EDT An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protestssparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison. The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/insurrectionists-have-easier-george-floyd-protesters_n_612d47a4e4b01d0862f3ffa9 Utah BLM protesters could get life in prison for splashing paint Some Black Lives Matter protesters in Salt Lake City could face up to life in prison if they are convicted of splashing red paint and smashing windows during a protest. The potential punishment stands out among demonstrators arrested around the country and critics say it does not fit the alleged crime. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/utah-black-lives-matter-protesters-life-prison-paint AP tally: Arrests at widespread US protests hit 10,000 PHOENIX (AP) — More than 10,000 people have been arrested in protests decrying racism and police brutality in the wake of George Floyd’s death, according to an Associated Press tally of known arrests across the U.S. The count has grown by the hundreds each day as protesters spilled into the streets and encountered a heavy police presence and curfews that give law enforcement stepped-up arrest powers. https://apnews.com/article/american-protests-us-news-arrests-minnesota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7
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No lies my post is 100% correct, not that you would know. Police don’t shoot people to prevent property damage. That said , at least 9 BLM protesters were killed in 2020, one of them was shot by a cop and the rest by right wing counter-protesters like Rittenhouse. Meanwhile the right’s new Martyr, St Babbit tried to breach the Senate Chamber door where the Senators were still being evacuated The Capitol Poiilce had no more room to fall back and would-be victims to protect Babbit ignored warnings and guns pointed at her Republican Representative Markwayne Mullin, a witness to Babbit's attempted breach, said that the Capitol Police "didn't have a choice" but to shoot, and that this action "saved people's lives"
