BeaverFever

Obstruction of justice is a crime. And I’m pretty sure all that self-dealing directing taxpayer money to his businesses is criminal

What a joke. So much Opposite-of-reality going on in the above quote, I don’t know where to begin or what more I could add to my previous post. To repeat- Obama inherited TWO ongoing wars in the ME that had been going on for years, both started by the previous Bush administration, and dead US troops coming home in body bags daily. The trajectory of Iraq was definitely straight to hell. Remember in 2003 the republicans told us there would be minimal casualties and the troops would be home in a few months. But here is Obama inheriting the war with no end in sight and thousands of casualties SIX YEARS LATER Like the economy, Obama inherited a disaster that started under the previous administration and Trump inherited years of progress made under Obama’s.

Another crackpot right wing conspiracy theory that doesn’t even make sene. But don’t take our word for it. Here is the official DOD report on the deaths of the SEALS, which found that the deadly helicopter attack was not a pre-planned revenge attack targeting those servicemembers. https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB370/docs/Document 12.pdf

It's always fun to hear somebody from the far left explain to conservatives what they believe It’s always fun to hear somebody from the far right claim what conservatives have said in the past. But then we listen to what conservatives actually said: Here is an article from 2000 in the conservative NY Daily News https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/bush-set-fight-electoral-college-loss-article-1.881690 And here you s a 2013 Fox News article on the Republican opposition to the electoral college https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-want-to-change-laws-on-electoral-college-votes-after-presidential-losses.amp

As I said Interesting take for a populist party, especially one that’s built on upholding the supremacy of the European/Christian majority and outrage over minority groups’ demands for equal recognition (see: “war on Christmas”, “Ten Commandments” and other similar controversies). Supremacy of the majority is a ling-established pillar of conservatism and this is the only case I can find where the right is clinging to the principle of “equality of minorities” oh and by the way New York and California combined still don’t account for more than half the country A non-answer. It’s your photo and if it’s not a Biden organized rally it’s irrelevant to the discussion. Full stop

So just to be clear, you’re claiming the photo is Biden-organized campaign rally?

Ironic that a supposedly populist “party of the people” now suddenly and conveniently believes that majority public opinion is irrelevant and all that matters are the “rules are rules” points scoring by selectively appointed electoral college elites I highly doubt that Republicans would believe this if the situation was reversed and the Dems had the College while Republicans had the popular vote. But to paraphrase Rumsfeld when he was fraudulently selling the Iraq invasion to the American people “you go to war with the arguments you have, not the arguments you want “.

No, that’s a Black Lives Matter protest. Not necessarily Biden supporters or even people who vote and not at all the same as a Trump rally planned and organized by the Trump campaign.

There wasn’t any storm. The weather was pleasant that day. Just a storm of stupidity. They had too many boats in too small of a lake, which were too close together and travelling in the same direction, their collective wake caused the waves. Something any competent sailor should have known.

You mean the fake scandal based on questionable evidence that nobody believes? Look, you think crowd size for an event organized by a political candidate during a disease pandemic somehow is more representative of election results than polls and advance voting turnout. It is not.

That’s not a Biden rally now is it?

Because unlike Trumpsters, Biden and his supporters understand there’s a disease pandemic

So impressive ? My fave was the tragedy at Dumbkirk where the Trump supporters accidentally swamped and sunk each other because despite owning boats they don’t actually know anything about boating Perfect metaphor for Trumps disastrous regime

Being the forum noob, I was trying to be polite ?

Yeah but the people and companies who were getting rich off the old stuff don’t simply roll over and accept their obsolescence. They hire lobbyists and PR specialists, plant propaganda in the media, spread conspiracy theories, scream about “big government” and try to make it about their liberties being taken away. And the workers who make the old stuff and stand to lose livelihoods also impede change by electing regressive leaders.

What exactly are “the many socialist and communist programs” you’re referring to and what evidence do you have that these programs are being used primarily by “third world immigrants” or that these programs cost “hundreds of billions of dollars”? These claims sound suspicious.

Hi all! Long-time lurker, First-time poster. At least one fiddle-playing canine here will recognize me and my handle from another forum. Not really sure about dividing my time between two sites but finally lost the urge to bite my tongue. With all due respect to the quoted poster above, I’ve never heard anything more ridiculous than the above quoted comments. I have to echo to the question by another forum member of how old are you. Obama did not “inherit a relatively normal Middle East”. That’s like saying Churchill inherited a ‘relatively normal Europe.’ Or that Nixon inherited a “relatively normal Vietnam”. Obama took office in 2009 and inherited a war in Iraq started by Bush that was in its sixth (6th) year. A war that Bush and the Republicans started in 2003 and sold to the American people with a promise that US troops would be greeted as liberators, home in a matter of months if not weeks, and would involve minimal casualties. A war where Republicans fabricated evidence of Iraq possessing WMDs and cooperating with AlQaeda. A war where Republicans screamed that Democrats and anyone else who dared to question their lies and challenge their invasion were traitors. That Republican war in Iraq was started by Bush/Cheney under false pretences and justified with intentionally fabricated/manipulated evidence. And it lead to the death and disability of thousands of US troops and over a million Iraqi citizens. It also lead to the creation of Al Qaeda in Iraq, the precursor to ISIS, whose founder and spiritual leader was released from custody under Bush/Cheney Plus Obama inherited another war in Afghanistan (justified IMO) which Bush started in 2001 but failed to conclude decisively It is also absolutely ridiculous to claim that US was peaceful or not racially divided prior to Obama. Anyone old enough to remember the years before Obama would instinctively understand everything I just described. These days, the portion of society most actively “devoted to genocide and the enslavement of religious minorities” seem to be the right wing extremists and white supremacists locking up kids in cages, shooting up mosques, mailing bombs, plotting to kidnap governors and the like. And when Trump loses I’m fairly certain there will be more So the question to the quoted poster of ‘How old are you” seems especially relevant