BeaverFever

LMAO the numbers are the same everywhere loser. You don’t know shit in real time or delayed time So can you link me to where Trump promised he would destroy the stock market and economy for half his presidency before it got better because I can only find clips of him saying the markets and economy would take off ON DAY ONE and where he said the economic success Americas experienced in 2024 under BIDEN was because markets knew he was going to win the election and the Trump economy had already started. As usual you’re a shameless cult follower who changes his story every 5 minutes to defend DEAR LEADER even in the face of the obvious of t Don’t worry neither does @Delugebecause it never happened

So that was you saying YOU disagree with him? Is that how MAGAs have to tone down their language to avoid being targeted by MAGA cancel culture? And given the gargantuan size of this policy - we’re the destruction of the American and global economy and THE centrepiece of his entire presidency- how can anyone who agrees that this is massive incompetence say they still support him? We’re not talking about something trivial like tampons in the men’s room here or an issue where recognized experts and schools of thought are divided on both sides, we’re talking about something of the highest importance and relevance to lives across the country and around the world where practically EVERYONE agrees these policies aren’t just wrong but reflect an unprecedented level of ignorance and incompetence lacking an even basic level of knowledge and understanding

And in fact contrary to your fake news Biden decreased them, which is among many of the facts mentioned in the real news LMAO you are learning that’s not true in real time

Because those tariffs were REMOVED after USMCA and the US steel and aluminum jobs came at the expense of US industries that buy steel and aluminum. US still imports large amounts of steel and aluminum especially from Canada which still supplies most of your high grade aluminum which Americans can’t produce efficiently due to your high cost energy market. Not against every single product from every single country in the whole world

Well that is the bright side a train wreck. I will remind you this is the opposite of what Trump said would happen and the opposite of why people voted for him. He promised stock markets would go up “on day 1”amd has never said stocks going down was a good thing You understand that when markets crash, companies go out of business, people lose their jobs and their savings? Not everyone can afford to ride it out or buy the dip especially if they are at or near retirement

Expert from Trump’s own alama mater, Wharton School of business: “this is the biggest policy mistake in 95 years” @Deluge. @gatomontes99 @Nationalist

Once again: your refusal to comment on the actual topic of this thread other than cheap insults is your silent confirmation that I’m correct.

LMAO oh right. Now I remember Trump promising that if you elect him and the stock market will crash like never before. NOT You people will say anything. Pathetic. Because you don’t have any coherent point.

So now you don’t care if the economy is destroyed because you think your personal assets are safe? And I hate to break it to ya, you’re never getting your crypto out of that Russian bank.

I don’t know any system that works better than supply management. The US system Americans pay for dairy twice: once at the grocery store and again through taxpayer funded subsidies. Americans pay for dairy even if they hate it, and are deathly allergic to it, through their taxes. And yet US dairy farmers still struggle and are financially worse off than Canadian counterparts while still producing milk they know they can’t sell and end up dumping. Eggs is the same story and all you need to do is look at the bird flu egg disaster that’s been unfolding for months now in the US but hardly affecting Canada to see the superiority of our system.

Dude as I already explained to you: USA HAS A TOTAL BAN on Canadian Dairy above its limit. America doesn’t want or need Canadian dairy. Canada doesn’t want or need US dairy, both countries overproduce and have to dump excess milk. And yet we still buy more of your dairy then you buy from us so quit your bichin you have no moral leg to stand on. You’re only telling one side of the story because you’re being dishonest

MARKETS LOST $1.7 TRILLION TODAY ALONE YOU DUMBASS And that’s on top of the $5 trillion its lost in recent weeks because of this nonsense Biggest one day drop since the COVID shock in March 2920

USA is still going to suffer from the tariffs it applied to the rest of the world as well the tariffs it continues to illegally apply to steel and aluminum which are USMCA compliant, and to other sectors that Trump said he would announce in the future. Stock markets continue to free fall, sucker.

I am against incompetent and dishonest people crashing the global economy which is happening as we speak turn on the news to any channel and look at markets crashing. If the cost to make something goes up, the price goes up. If a new tax is added onto something you pay more. How donyou mot get that? Nobody is a hypocrite except Trump I explained this already. Under USMCA US and Canada BOTH AGREED to only allow a limited amount of each other’s dairy. Ok? Mutual agreement. Both agreed. Trump agreed. He called USMCA “the greatest deal ever” Now he is comparing about Canada while USA is even worse and he doesn’t want you to know about it. Canada isn’t complaining about USA because it’s a mutual agreement and Canadians can live with it. USA says any Canadian dairy above their import limit is BANNED. Illegal. Verboten. Import it and you are a US lawbreaker. Meanwhile Canada says any US dairy above their limit is not banned but the Canadian importer just has to pay a tariff. Its not 200% it’s a sliding scale that starts at something low like 5% and goes up that high depending on how much the limit is exceeded by. I also mentioned that US subsidizes the shit out of US dairy so American farmers massively outproduce market demand and want to dump their subsidized surplus on foreign markets. And as I already said Canada imports more US dairy than US imports Canadian dairy. We take your shitty, hormone and pharmaceutical-filled, subsidized crap and use it mostly for industrial purposes But Trump doesn’t tell you any of those facts, does he? Colombia. Ooh. A banana republic. Some victory Trump has had his ass handed to him by Canada. Remember the phoney fentanyl tarriffs were supposed to goninto efect Feb 1 on our entire economy then we hit back and he pushed it to Feb 4 then March 4 then april 2 as we continued to fight back and win over the American public including most republicans. Now the phoney fentanyl tariffs are gone completely and yesterday he walked back a little of the threatened auto tariffs and gave one of the lowest tariffs of any country (except Russia) Even UK which has been kissing his ass got worse tariffs assigned. And we still announced new counter-tariffs on him today for the shit he has left. The border measures were already announced under Biden, we simply repeated them and made some cosmetic changes to try amd appease Trump, which failed. Only after we responded with counter-tariffs and Trump and Vance called Trudeau yelling and swearing in a failed attempt to get him to surrender did they back off their tariff threats. We punched the bully in the nose and he backed off. It just goes to show they left no stone unturned in naming countries to tariff, to the point they are naming uninhabited rocks that aren’t even countries…..except Russia and Belarus Belarus isn’t party to that war and Ukraine is included on the tariff list so your theory that it’s for a peace deal appears to be wrong. By the way Trumps propaganda falsely said that uninhabited island “charges USA” a 10% tariff

Lol keep dreaming. Relocation costs billions of dollars and takes more years than Trump will be in office. By the time companies complete the decision making process to move a factory Trump will be out of office. Plus his erratic actions have proven his word is meaningless he could sign a deal with you one day and welcome you with open arms then completely violate it the next and stab you in the back And USMCA is not intact. Trump still in violation on auto, steel, aluminum and he said there would be more violations to come in other sectors like pharma and lumber

The devil will be in the details. Their homes need to be quality builds that stand the test of time and don’t get shabby and rundown after a few years. I also notice they mention mass production of prefab and modular homes. They and their municipal/provincial partners need to be careful not to create ghettos and slums by placing too many in the same place. They should make a variety at different price points and place them in an appropriate mix with existing homes and other new builds. .

On what basis can you say that given the economic devastation Teump has brought? By all accounts the economy he inherited from Biden was “firing on all cylinders” and “moving in the right direction” if still recovering from pandemic and post-pandemic turbulence. Moreover Trump’s economic destruction is entirely self-inflicted due to policies that are his alone are counter to all sage advice amd expertise even from fellow Republicans and some fellow MAGAs. By contrast Biden’s economic challenges were caused by unprecedented external global events that were neither of his making, fully under his control, or with historical precedent. Whether a different policy set would have achieved better results is pure armchair quarterback speculation and not supported by any definitive evidence. The fact that countries around the world all experienced highly similar outcomes suggests otherwise.

You’re fooled by fake news once again!

That’s what matters And also Trump doesn’t tell you about the trade restrictions US has on countries. For example as much as he whines about Canada’s tariffs on US dairy he doesn’t tell you that US restricts Canadian dairy with an outright BAN AND it subsidizes the living shit out of its dairy industry AND Canada buys more US dairy than US buys Canadian dairy AND no tariffs are assessed on the dairy that is traded. Examples like that abound everywhere Also in other cases US has targeted tariffs for comparative advantage. For example US agrees to accept another country’s wheat tariff free and in exchange that country agrees to accept American tractors tariff free. They would do this for economic efficiency: US economy only produces as much wheat as is economically efficient and then imports the remainder required to meet demand. Why would US investors want to over-invest in wheat production if other sectors are more lucrative? They’ll only invest as much in the sector as their portfolio risk/return strategy deems appropriate. Meanwhile other countries have cheap labour to produce agricultural products but can’t efficiently mass produce tractors to meet their demand. But the two countries don’t want tractors and wheat going back and forth in both directions because that will undercut each country’s comparative advantage, they want tractors to only go one way, wheat to only go the other way. Hence USA provides tariff-free tractors while imposing a tariff on the other country’s tractors while the other country provides tariff-free wheat while imposing a tariff on US wheat and both countries are happy with this arrangement…..Until a dumbass like Trump comes along misrepresenting things and screaming “they won’t take our wheat!!, we’re tariffing their entire economy!!”” As I already said TWICE IN THE SAME POST BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WOULD IGNORE IT: USA has zero trade with Iran, Syria, and uninhabited Antarctic island but still managed to list tariffs on those place. It can’t be a coincidence that they forgot about Russia

Well at least you admit that Trump is massively taxing Americans - the largest single tax increase since ww2. We are not opposed to taxes or electric cars but we are opposed to rich dumbasses who don’t know what they’re doing and destroy the global economy and democracy. That’s Trump and Elon. Secondly his tariffs are across the board tariffs including on items where there isn’t any US producer possible for example natural resources that the US doesn’t have and everyday items like coffee and pepper that don’t grow in the USA. Prices will spiral out of context and Americans will have inflation and/or stagnation , the dreaded stagflation. The political goal has not worked beautifully. Where has it worked? Canada is resisting. EU is resisting. China is resisting Trump had to drop his false fentanyl BS tariffs completely.

LOL it’s been clear simce the day you showed uo youre NOT an educated person. As usual you don’t know what you’re talking about. 1) A basic fact that even a high schooler would understand is Tariffs are paid by the IMPORTING country Thats the point of tariffs, to make foreign goods more expensive Therefore Trumps tariffs will be paid by Americans who purchase those goods 2) The tariffs he claims other countries charge (that are actually paid for by their own citizens not Americans) are false numbers. The weighted tariffs charged by EU and Japan for example are around 1% not the ridiculous numbers he cited 3) Trump’s list of tarriffes countries includes tiny islands with no exports, an uninhabited volcanic island off Antartica that belongs to Australia and enemy countries that USA doesn’t do any trade with like Syria and Iran….clearly soe dumbass just googled a list of places and was too stupid or too lazzy to check it. But guess who conveniently is not listed at all? Russia and Belarus. The only countries in the world not listed Wow what a coincidence!! As I just mentioned Syria and Iran are listed “The most economically illiterate speech I have ever heard” says expert

Nothings happened? Your disgusting sack of shit of a president has tanked the markets, and so far has wiped out $5 trillion in value from American savings and investments over the past several week with this id1otic tariff scheme that he’s dreamed up in his own head and with his erratic antics that even acolytes in his own administration don’t support. He’s starting trade wars with countries around the world friend and foe alike based on easily disproven lies, half-truths, disinformation and his own nonsensical gibberish logic that evn a teenager would shake their head at LMAO You are so deep in your fake news bubble you are beyond hope.

Because you know his tariffs are indefensible and based on easily disproven lies and a shocking lack of even high school level knowledge and understanding of economics.

Hilariously but predictably you are not able to utter a single intelligent sentence on the topic and like I mentioned in my original post you’re not capable of making even an attempt to defend this ridiculous disaster of a policy. So you do your normal thing: insult, troll, try to change the subject to something completely unrelated. You’re suggesting Republicans won’t notice this either? 🤣 Got nothing to say on this topic?

Name one other democracy who deports law abiding residents in the country legally for free speech “contrary to the nation’s values”. In fact name one other US President who has done that. And who gets to decree what the country’s values are anyways? This just YET ANOTHER example that all the Republican talk about free speech and ending cancel culture is just total BS. Republicans are some of the worst cancellers out there.