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The hilarious and shameless Trump gaslighting continues as convicted criminal Trump NOW absurdly claims he never said “lock her up” Now he’s soft on crime now that he’s been convicted of one Trump Denies Ever Saying ‘Lock Her Up.’ He Did… Several Times “Hillary Clinton — I didn’t say, ‘Lock her up,’ but the people would all say, ‘Lock her up, lock her up.’ OK. Then we won, and I said pretty openly, I’d say, ‘Alright, come on, just relax. Let’s go. We gotta make our country great.'” That is, of course, a lie. Trump not only beamed and nodded from the podium as his rally crowds chanted, “Lock her up,” he also said it himself, multiple times. He said it on Oct. 14, 2016, at a rally in Greensboro, N.C. As the crowd chanted the line, Trump said, “For what she’s done, they should lock her up.” In fact, he said it numerous times on the 2016 campaign trail, and he carried the line forward during his presidency. He even said it of Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in October 2020. When the crowd chanted, “Lock her up!” about Whitmer, Trump responded with, “Lock them all up.” And that same month, he told a crowd of the Bidens, “You should lock them up. Lock up the Bidens, lock up Hillary.” When a crowd chanted, “Lock her up!” about Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford, the professor who accused Supreme Court Justice Bret Kavanaugh of assaulting her when both were teens, Trump gave the crowd enthusiastic nods and a thumbs-up. As recently as last August, Trump hinted he might attempt to lock up his opponents. In an interview with Glenn Beck, the host asked, “Do you regret not ‘locking her up.’ And if you’re president again, will you lock people up?” “The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us,” Trump responded. Even with his conviction, it is unlikely that Trump himself will be “locked up” for any period of time. He will almost certainly appeal, and a prison sentence is unlikely for someone convicted of falsifying business records. But even though he faces a vanishingly small chance of time behind bars, Trump is all of a sudden painting himself as soft on crime. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-denies-ever-saying-lock-151844115.html

Not to mention that despite the lie from the now-banned conservative troll who created this thread, D’Souza is not “highly respected” but rather a convicted felon who pleaded guilty to election fraud. It’s funny how all these right wing lies and fake news stories getting debunked time and again never gives these right wing dupes pause before they fall for the next one. I have a friend who is like this: somehow he’s not a MAGA supporter but he is a populist who is always falling for fake news and hoax claims on facebook from random strangers like the well-known “ farmer giving away free horses due to (x current event in the news)” , even some from satire websites that are clearly meant for humour and say so right in the web page. No matter how often they’re debunked and he admits to being fooled it doesn’t stop him from falling for the next one Its a psychological phenomenon.

OMG this dumbass argument again. Your ignorance knows no limits. Here’s the TL;DR version for your ignorant ass: The NAZI party name predates Hitler, Hitler is not the party founder (who Hitler later had murdered after he took over the party), “National Socialism” is not the same thing as socialism, and names are meaningless, North Korea’s official name is “The Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea” do think that proves NK is a democratic republic? The Nazis jailed and murdered socialists by the thousands and publicly raged about socialism the way republicans rage about illegal immigrants. LMAO you are such a whacked out internet Konspiracy Kook Krackpot it’s hilarious Oh the lighting was red 😱. Only an id1iot like you could be conned into believing that every red light you see is also a swastika Honk honk! And The floor was not a square it was the same shape as the Othala Rune (see pic below) Even if it was pure coincidence, which is likely , if you’re going to scream nazi just because of red stage lights (did the Nazis even use red stage lights or did it just look spooky to you??) then it’s ridiculous that you would ignore the MULTIPLE Republican examples I mentioned most of which you couldn’t even acknowledge in your post Republicans have been saying that for decades and that’s exactly what they did. Remember all of the made up secret rules the Republican senators cited to first block appointments under Oba and then fast track them under Trump? “Oh secret rule nobody’s ever heard of: President Obama can’t appoint anyone to the USSC during his final year so we’re blocking his nomination …oh wait we forgot to mention there’s a secret exception to the secret rule that nobody’s ever heard of: so President Trump CAN appoint someone to the USSC during his final year..Expedited Approved!”

In fact the Clinton email nothingburger was more like Biden’s little box of unreturned documents and less like Trump’s deliberate criminal actions (and the Trump family also used their personal emails for White House business BTW) After a years-long FBI investigation, it was determined that Clinton's server did not contain any information or emails that were clearly marked classified.[1] News reports by NBC and CNN indicated that the emails discussed "innocuous" matters that were already public knowledge. In July, FBI director James Comey announced that the FBI investigation had concluded that Clinton had been "extremely careless" but recommended that no charges be filed because Clinton did not act with criminal intent, the historical standard for pursuing prosecution.[7] On June 14, 2018, the Department of Justice's Office of the Inspector General released its report on the FBI's and DOJ's handling of Clinton's investigation, finding no evidence of political bias and lending support for the decision to not prosecute Clinton.[14] A three-year State Department investigation concluded in September 2019 that 38 individuals were "culpable" in 91 instances of sending classified information that reached Clinton's email account, though it found "no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information".[15] Yet a September 2022 "Fact Checker" analysis by The Washington Post, which followed a tweet by Clinton claiming, "I had zero emails that were classified", also quotes the same 2019 State Department report as having noted, "None of the emails at issue in this review were marked as classified."[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy Westcan is the mor0n who compared Biden to nazis simply because he once spoke in front of red stage lights and his government has a military. I just showed him how Republicans have the support of ACTUAL Nazis, some of whom they retweet or hire to work for them and slip Nazi symbols into Republican communications.

Conservative distributor of 2,000 mules cancels movie and book, apologizes for spreading lies: ‘2000 Mules’ Duped Millions of Fools KLAUS MARRE 06/01/24 A right-wing media company has stopped distributing '2000 Mules,' a so-called documentary that spread lies about the 2020 election. The Salem Media Group, a conservative media company, this week made official what every expert already knew: The film, 2,000 Mules, a supposed documentary from right-wing nutj0b Dinesh D’Souza that incorrectly led supporters of Donald Trump to believe that Democrats engaged in “ballot stuffing” in 2020, was a work of fiction. The company announced Friday that it has removed the film from its platforms and will no longer distribute it or the accompanying book. Among other falsehoods, 2,000 Mules included surveillance video that showed a Georgia man, Mark Andrews, placing ballots in a drop box near Atlanta. The accompanying commentary left viewers with no doubt that Andrews had committed a crime. And there were plenty of viewers. Eager for any “evidence” that the election was “stolen” from Trump, MAGA supporters flocked to see the film, which consequently made Salem’s former publishing division Regnery Publishing millions of dollars. It didn’t hurt that the former president called 2,000 Mules the “greatest and most impactful documentary of our time,” and slammed Fox News for not broadcasting it. You know that a piece of right-wing propaganda must be truly outrageous when Rupert Murdoch’s propaganda channel refuses to air it. In this case, Fox News made a wise decision because Andrews sued D’Souza, the Salem Media Group, and two individuals associated with the right-wing group “True the Vote” for defamation. The case is still pending. Perhaps in response to that lawsuit, the company has now announced its decision to pull the film and apologized to Andrews. “In publishing the film and the book, we relied on representations made to us by Dinesh D’Souza and True the Vote, Inc. (“TTV”) that the individuals depicted in the videos provided to us by TTV, including Mr. Andrews, illegally deposited ballots,” the company stated. “We have learned that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has cleared Mr. Andrews of illegal voting activity in connection with the event depicted in 2000 Mules.” Salem Media Group added that “it was never our intent that the publication of the 2000 Mules film and book would harm Mr. Andrews. We apologize for the hurt the inclusion of Mr. Andrews’ image in the movie, book, and promotional materials have caused Mr. Andrews and his family.” https://whowhatwhy.org/elections/2000-mules-duped-millions-of-fools/

Not to mention Biden only had a small number of documents while Trump had entire rooms full of boxes.

And it did. He was found guilty on all counts by a jury.

Well I had Nationalist in mind specifically since he is particularly obsessed with sadistic revenge fantasies Republican are some of the worst cancellers out there: Disney, Bud Light, Blackrock, Liz Cheney, every Republican who spoke against Trump, even DeSantis the Floridian canceller-in-chief got canceled when he tried to run against Trump. And with Republican laws targeting on abortion rights, LGBTQ, private businesses who allegedly have “woke” policies, Republicans are just as bad if not worse when it comes to interfering in other peoples private affairs and ways of life Republicans have been called Deplorable? Aww muffin! Republicans have made it their brand to call everyone else pedophiles, communists and terrorist supporters and then invent a bunch of batshit conspiracies and lies to go along with that name calling. The new populist far right has made premeditated displays of grotesque vulgarity its brand: screaming obscenities and the N word at politicians and public employees, even while holding their small children, chasing politicians and their families down the street when the see them in public, pelting them with gravel, spray painting their offices with words like “c-nt”. Often these extremists even film themselves doing so and then post it on social media to show off their vulgarity. People talk about left wing “virtue signalling” when lefties put on a big show to try and show off how progressive they are. The new right does the same thing except to show off how vulgar and depraved they are. The righties say they like the displays of vulgarity because it shows how genuine and authentic they are, and that they don’t care who they offend and they will never apologize for it because only cowards and wimps apologize. But of course that only applies to them Call them something as innocuous as “deplorable” and the shameless hypocrites complain they’ve been victimized in the most heinous and unspeakable way possible and demand an apology The Republicans’ manufactured victim narrative is no different than that of every other authoritarian movement in history. You can tell their motives are sinister because they claim this alleged victimization entitles them to victimize others in return, which is not what real victims do. Nobody says “I was raped therefore I should be allowed to rape someone else” or “I was robbed therefore I should be allowed to rob someone else”. Real opponents of dictatorship don’t say “just wait until I become dictator and get my revenge,” they say “just wait until we create a democracy and end dictatorship forever” but of course that’s not what Trump and his supporters are saying at all. What’s funny is that few people really doubt that Trump paid Stormy the hush money and then falsified business records to cover it up, they simply don’t care if he did or not and think he should be above the law based on his political stance. Typical authoritarian thuggery.

Because his accusations against her were made up and he had no evidence. Unlike Trump’s criminal case where the crime was real and proven in a court of law. Neither the prosecutor nor the judge nor the jury are under Biden’s control.

What do you mean NOW? People have been calling the Right fascist since fascism was invented. Only before trump it was just exaggerated hyperbole, like when people call mor0ns like you retarded even though we know you don’t have Down Syndrome. Since Trump MAGAs have become ACTUAL fascists. That’s just your made up Reichstag Fire bullshit that you are using to justify your planned fascist abuses . Fascists always have a long list of outrageous lies that that they claim justify their brutality and thuggery. After your violent thugs attacked it! And now they’re filling the internet with calls for more violence in service of their Fuhrer Hilarious. Are you so clueless in your bubble that missed all the times Republicans slipped ACTUAL Nazi symbols into their programming? And of course Trumps own fascist rhetoric? Trump’s social media account shares a campaign video with a headline about a ‘unified Reich’ The 30-second video appeared Monday on Trump’s account at a time when the presumptive Republican nominee for president, while seeking to portray President Joe Biden as soft on antisemitism, has himself repeatedly faced criticism for using language and rhetoric associated with Nazi Germany. https://apnews.com/article/trump-election-2024-rhetoric-germany-antisemitism-31002afb91b642c0314223d19e51f427 DeSantis aide fired after sharing video featuring symbol used by Nazis Nate Hochman ‘no longer with the campaign’ after posting video using internet memes popular on the far right The video ended with two files of soldiers marching towards a Florida flag, the centre of which turned into a revolving red and yellow disc. The disc resembled a sonnenrad or sunwheel, which the Anti-Defamation League defines as an “ancient European symbol appropriated by the Nazis in their attempt to invent an idealised ‘Aryan/Norse’ heritage” and which has “countless variations [including] the swastika”. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/26/desantis-campaign-video-nazi-symbol-fired-aide CPAC Stage Compared To Nazi Symbol On Social Media By Saturday afternoon there had been nearly 100,000 tweets that compared the CPAC stage to the ODAL Rune, which was used by a unit of the insidious Waffen SS, the initially named the SS-Volunteer Division Prinz Eugen (SS-Freiwilligen-Division "Prinz Eugen") – later the 7th Volunteer Mountain Division. That unit was formed in 1941 and took part exclusively in action against the communist-led Yugoslavian partisans during the Second World War. Trump’s latest flirtation with Nazi symbolism draws criticism Trump has been rebuked for calling his political opponents “vermin” and for saying on multiple occasions that immigrants entering the U.S. illegally are “poisoning the blood” of the country. When pressed on the latter phrases’ connections to Hitler and Nazi Germany, Trump said he never read “Mein Kampf,” Hitler’s manifesto. Dating back further, Trump was widely criticized in 2022 for dining with Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes at Mar-a-Lago. And he triggered outrage in 2017 when he said there was blame on “both sides” and that there were “very fine people on both sides” at a Charlottesville, Va., white supremacist rally that turned violent, leading to the murder of a counterprotester in a hate crime. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4677700-trumps-latest-flirtation-with-nazi-symbolism-draws-criticism/mlite/?nxs-test=mlite Neo-Nazis Explain Why They Like Trump

Retribution against anyone who is not part of their cult and especially against all of the identity groups they despise (immigrants, gays, liberals, etc. etc., their list of Hated Ones is long). They revel in sadistic fantasies where they rejoice in the pain and suffering they hope to inflict on others. Celebrating debased cruelty is a key feature of fascism and the far right.

That’s what the fascist thugs of history have always said when they try to seize power

Many gas stations and convenience stores literally sell crack pipes at the counter and they hose businesses as a whole have an abysmal track record of selling cigarettes to kids and therefore has no business being gatekeepers for alcohol. I also don’t want to see every neighbourhood corner store turn into an hangout for every local hobo and street urchin who has managed to scrape up a couple of toonies for a tallboy of Colt 45. The Canadian experience tells us that atomization of the liquor market leads to higher prices and less selection. Nonetheless I’m all for competition and convenience from large corporate retailers who can operate at scale and who can implement the appropriate controls, and whose staff have no incentive to sell to underage or intoxicated people. The Beer Store I could care less about. Thanks to corporate mergers its become the private retail outlet of the Big 3 global brewers who basically use their government-mandated near-monopoly to shut out everyone else. Its demise is long overdue.

Im all for the booze at grocery store and big box stores but I don’t trust convenience stores to sell responsibly. My past experience as a teenage smoker and an under-21 drinker in the US tells me convenience stores can never be trusted with alcohol sales. Of course the real agenda is being driven by the private interests who want to eventually take over the LCBO, which I hope never happens. Go to Quebec or Alberta or any place in the US where you can buy booze on every street corner, and you usually find that the selection is terrible, usually just the same collection of mediocre high-margin mass market products like Coors Light, Budweiser etc. Thats great if you’re a teenager or an undiscerning consumer but those who want quality end up having to go just as far out of their way to find superior quality. In Alberta when they privatized the liquor market prices went way up because its now dominated by smaller retailers who can’t achieve the same efficiencies of scale and people still complain about lack of selection , there are more retail locations but most offer similar limited selection. In Quebec I also observed far less selection of liquor in the provincially owned SAQ, which doesn’t even sell beer, presumably because such a big chunk of the alcohol market is privatized so they also lose scale. For beer, cider and coolers I was stuck popping in and out of every “depanneur” corner store I passed , usually disappointed at the lack of appealing options. Long live the LCBO.

Starting on Aug. 1 of this year, licensed grocery stores that currently sell beer, cider and wine will be able to sell ready-to-drink cocktails and sell large-pack sizes like 30 packs. After Sept. 5, eligible convenience stores will be able to sell beer, cider, wine and ready-to-drink cocktails, and after Oct. 31, all grocery stores and big box stores could sell those products, including large-pack sizes. Over time, the changes will add up to 8,500 new places where people in Ontario could buy alcohol, the government said. …An agreement the former Liberal government signed with The Beer Store in 2015, which gave the company exclusive rights to sell 12- and 24-packs of beer as the province expanded sales of beer and wine to grocery stores, was set to expire at the end of 2025. As part of this new, earlier rollout of Ford's plan to expand alcohol sales, an "early implementation agreement" signed with The Beer Store involves the province paying the company up to $225 million to support the transition, including to help it keep stores open and workers employed. https://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/ontario-speeds-up-alcohol-expansion-province-will-pay-the-beer-store-up-to-225m/article_9ee46085-80d5-5857-96ec-24e68005dc51.amp.html

As if firing “the Head of the Bank,” who has much more important things to deal with, over such a trivial and unimportant issue would be an intelligent move . That would be a major disruption to one of the major institutions that stabilizes the economy over something inconsequential and stupid. Thats like telling an airline pilot mid-flight that if he doesn’t ensure your airline food is warmed up in 5 minutes he’d better grab a parachute and bail out. 90% of Canadians couldn’t give a rats ass about royal portraits or images especially the ones hanging in buildings they will never visit, much less the timeline for when they’re updated. Most wouldn’t spend a a dime of taxpayer money on it.

🙄 it’s being moved, not “erased”, “smeared” or “banished”. Typical Warmington and the sun That would make more sense. Neither the conflict nor the soldier were a part of St.Catharines history. Kind of strange that such a large statue to this one private andwas the town’s central monument, directly in front of city hall. And as he was born in Toronto and moved to Winnipeg years before the war, he was neither a native of St Catharines nor a resident of it when he died. He wasn’t killed during a conspicuous act of bravery or pivotal battle either. The statue wasn’t originally erected there anyways, it was moved there in 1936

Because the stuff you’re trying to explain is nonsense Yeah, that’s literally the OPPOSITE of a micromanager. It shows he’s out of touch and doesn’t know or care about what is going on in his Minister’s Departments OMG. Those once-per election Mandate Letters are something every government in every party does, you know that right? It just a letter that spells out a t a high level what their priorities are. The only thing different about JT is that unlike others he made his letters public…again part of the theatre. Besides only a fool would think JT giving someone one letter upon hire and then barely ever speaking to or inquiring about their work again and being “incurious” “proves” he’s in charge. Lol no it is literally the definition of someone who is not in charge.He’s the boss in name only. Gerald Butts resigned 5 years ago. He may still be a big mover and shaker in the party somehow through private relationships, I don’t know. Competent people make mistakes and bad policies all the time. How many rockets did NASA crash and burn before figuring out how to achieve space flight? A lot. How many successful business and political leaders had ideas that failed before and after achieving success? Most of them. I didn’t say the Liberal brain trust’s policies were good ones or successful ones, all policies are compromises between different internal and external groups and competing interests and many policies that fail are sound on paper but impractical in the real world. It’s quite clear this stuff doesn’t come from someone as vapid and disinterested as JT himself. There is a whole ecosystem of progressive policymakers thought leaders etc in politics, academia and elsewhere in society, all influencing and accessing different levels of government in different ways: as lobbyists, advisors, as government employees, and as people who otherwise influence these groups through books, speeches, advocacy etc. I know as a conservative you NEED to believe that the liberal-du-jour is the antichrist and the conservative-du-jour is the messiah himself, every election it's the same, it’s never been different and it never will be. Messianic hero worship of the current Dear Leader is an inherent feature of conservatism, and accordingly demonization of the hated rival is also. But this time, Trudeau is not the evil mastermind you make him out to be, he’s the vapid spokesmodel.

I dunno, it can’t be as you say and also as per the OP: Trudeau has no apparent interest in the banalities of government, including the management of his cabinet orcaucus. Ministers — senior ministers — report that they rarely talk about their portfolios with their boss. In the 2018 book, Un selfie avec Justin Trudeau, Jocelyn Coulon, a former adviser to Stéphane Dion, said the relationship between prime minister and his then foreign affairs minister was “glacial” and the only private meeting the two men had was when Dion was fired. “The prime minister is a man incurious about the affairs of the world,” Coulon remarked. Competemt people an be pulling his strings while still making policy decisions that haven’t worked out and maybe never would work out, and things may not he great but claims that Canada “is failing so badly” are also exaggerated. We have our share of problems at them moment but these problems are also being faced by peer countries across the west, some of which were decades in the making by multiple levels of government and multiple governing parties. Everyone agrees it’s time to change governments and Poillievre will eventually have his share or problems and bad policies too.

One key difference is that Trudeau is simply a spokesmodel for a political establishment. I’d be surprised if he personally influenced much of the policy from his government He is an actor, hired to play a role by the Liberal inner circle. Trump on the other had is no puppet. He is a mad king who rules by decree. The people surrounding him are an ever-evolving mob of sycophants and grifters trying to profit from kissing his ring. Trump’s policies if you can even call them that are an incoherent mashup of half-baked conspiracies, tired hackneyed tropes, and rewards to those who have sufficiently bribed/flattered his ego like Saudis and Conrad Black and Blagojevich

You can’t even compare the two. Trump never formally conceded. He continues to push his stolen election lies to this day and is already setting the stage for 2024 election lies in case he loses. In hoth 2016 and 2020 he said out loud he would only accept the election results if he won. He launched a number of schools to steal the 2020 election amd Jan 6 wasn’t peaceful. Clinton and Gore both officially conceded and didn’t push conspiracies and lies and try to steal the election. Hillary’s one-time offhand remark on a talk show THE VIEW doesn’t compare with Trump’s constant lies about the 2020 election that ha brainwashed millions of his mindless followers. Gore also never called Bush an illegitimate president. .No, you don’t understand the recount issue. Both sides disagreed on exactly which districts and polling stations should be recounted with Jeb Bush and republicans only wanting to recount districts that would likely be favourable to Bush and Gore wanting those favourable to Dems. In the end the Court ruled that Jeb as governor can count any way he pleases. What a STATE-WIDE review revealed afterwards was that Gore likely would NOT have won if the districts he requested had been recounted HOWEVER if the entire state had been recounted (which he didn’t request) he would have won.

It’s hilarious that’s your response in the post IMMEDIATELY AFTER you made a bunch of unproven claims about Biden where he’s not been investigated OR charged. Your pathetic double standard of reciting any unproven internet.rumour about democrats as a proven fact while demanding nobody talk about republicans who admit to their actions and are under active criminal investigations is astounding. Made up nonsense based on a shameless partisan editorial trying to make something out of nothing. The most senior and powerful Republicans during the Clinton administration years, House speaker Dennis Hastert, is an admitted lifelong pedophile. During his time other republican congressmen were caught trying to groom young boys I was obviously being facetious dumbass.

Meanwhile back in the real world, whenever ACTUAL political party members ACTUALLY get busted as groomers and pedophiles, they’re almost always Republicans. Here’s the latest: A police investigation into Republican operative Ali Alexander is still ongoing, a spokesperson for the Johnstown Police Department in Colorado confirmed to the Daily Dot on Wednesday, and has now extended to Texas. The Daily Dot reported in April of last year that a case had been opened into allegations that Alexander used promises of advancement in the conservative movement to try and groom underage boys. Alexander is also accused of offering jobs to the boys, who were in the orbit of Nick Fuentes’ fascist America First movement, in exchange for send him sexual images and videos. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/ali-alexander-grooming-case-active/

Classic whataboutery. You can’t argue with what is being said here so you change the subject to completely unrelated politicized rumours of what someone else allegedly did Do Republicans acknowledge grandchildren produced by cocaine and hookers?

140 injuries which included a heart attack, broken ribs, burns, concussions, lacerations, one lost the tip of his finger another was in critical condition.