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Hey now, don't besmirch Ozzy by using him on that simpleton. Hahaha

I don't think I would really consider myself an educated voter when it comes to the USA and am not saying that this is impossible (yes I did say improbable) I just don't think this line of argument is effective and the best way to prevent what the op predicts is to motivate the reasonable people to vote and I don't think this is the way to do it

To continue with your analogy, I think it's more like someone tried to stab you with one of those knifes that the blade folds into the handle and you hand them a straw. Again he had the full weight of the US gov't behind him, well accept for the staff members that came out and continue to against him and most of those were sycophants. He has none of that this time. Educated voters already know this, and the undecided (which I can't understand) voters are much more likely to respond to a positive vision of the future and not just orange man bad

You commenting on other people's morals. That's funny. Have you switched to hallucinogenics instead of the booze?

I agree? I think, but with some pretty big caveats. First, this kind of rhetoric is prevalent on both sides. In this case it's a politico article, which I know, you know, doesn't compare to Trump calling Harris things like Marxist Second, Trump is maybe the least qualified person to run for office in my life time and regardless of his hyperbole wasn't very effective in implementing policies he ran on. Third, I don't think project 2025 should be dismissed that easily. I don't think trump was involved in or even understands the inner workings of government (or tariffs, health care, taxes, the constitution, etc, etc etc.) but It was written by many former Trump staffers, through the heritage foundation, who we know were very influential particularly in the selection of supreme Court justices. (Another thing he doesn't understand)

It's a little much (well a lot much) because it's just speculation. Yes they tried, but to quote a great "man" There is no try, just do or do not (I wrote above the why I don't think it will happen) This line of attack is to me, not something that will move the electoral needle, therefore not effective. I think the focus should be on actual problems and not what may potentially happen, and when we're talking about a man that has just recently fracked like a duck , and talked about a dead golfers penis size on stage, that seems not only more pertinent but more effective. His supporters are more easily swayed by their homophobia than by their respect for democracy.

They did attempt it last time, but it failed. Last time, they had the white house , the Senate and the full power of government. They brought dozens of court cases that were mostly dismissed due to standing or merit, often by trump appointed judges. They will most likely attempt it again, but I doubt Harris will approve false electors. So yes, possible but not probable

Oh and I can see the values you were raised with. None of my foster parents raised me to be someone that thinks they should be lauded for not driving drunk. What other pearls of wisdom did you get from your nuclear family?

Even as a foster kid, money says I'm most likely superior to you in every way, financially, professionally, personally, emotionally etc, etc, etc... But yes I will continue to harass you because I'm also someone that believes trash people like you shouldn't get away with being such a despicable, immoral sacks of canine feces.

Who are you kidding scumbag, you have no idea what respect means Go cry into a bottle

Maybe you didn't see my original post. I was saying that had read that the Prince by Machiavelli was intended as political satire and not political science and I found that to be an interesting perspective. He stated he had read the book and it was NOT satire and I was asking how he could know the authors intentions of a 1000 year old book written in a language he doesn't speak. His response "some books are stories", "other books are a way of thinking". Neither in anyway address my point. P.S, I don't hate the Bible, there are many positive messages throughout, I just don't believe that it's the inerrant word of the tri Omni, creator of the universe.

So , just to make sure I understand. You're saying that your interpretation of an almost 1000 year old book, written in a language you don't speak, in a political climate different than anything even close to your experiences, IS the only correct interpretation ?

Guess I was wrong, still drunk eh?

Someone's off the sauce today

In that case I only owe you 1.5 hahaha That's a much more eloquent way to say what I was trying to express in my original post. In my defense, my mom (I recently moved back to Ontario to be able to help her out, and even though I only spent a few years with her, I still call her mom) had a really good day, so I went out and grabbed a couple good bottles of Cabernet Sauvignon ( it's what she likes, I don't drink much and almost never wine) so I may be slightly intoxicated at the moment and like I've said I'm not at my best in writing things even on my best day Though today was a great day, I haven't seen Linda like this since she had the foster home

I'm certainly no fan of Trump but this is a little much. I think you'd be better served to focus on the møronic things he actually says and does instead of speculating on potential future maybes, that though possible, aren't really probable.

This time it was a case of being misspoken and not mistaken I was trying to say that if the statement was true, libel doesn't apply But, I'm giving you another credit for not calling me kiddo once. Hahahaha

I respect your opinion but I think we'll have to agree to disagree

You are beyond dishonest, I wasn't even speaking with you when you made up a post saying it came from me, then all gloves were off, and I treated you the way you deserve because of your complete lack of moral fiber. I would also object to anyone being called a drunk. You should just try to rise above it, there's strength in that. Normally I would never do such a thing,and you a right when you say to riise above but when people are that despicable they don't deserve to be treated respectfully.

For defemation he would have to prove Trudeau lied knowingly and that he suffered because of it. If he can prove that the case has merit, but that could be difficult.

You have a deal, but I do reserve the right to take away your point for such things as a bad joke. Hahaha

I'm not asking you to explain what happened, just how you came to the conclusion it was something supernatural. Because, even though I believe, that you believe it was supernatural, I think you'll agree that your mental state does nothing for me. Without verifiable evidence I can't even include the supernatural as a candidate explanation. Therefore it can't be included in my world view. That's the claim, any actual evidence?

As I thought, you pathetic, impotent, little drunk

Is this really all you have? At least you went from making up posts attributed to me, to just inventing aspects of my life. Both because you know you can't actually respond honestly to my real opinion. Still sad but at least it's progress. I wonder if you'd be any more of a nimrod sober, but I doubt it.

Just sad You did better when you had to make what I say up. Maybe put down the bottle, at least for now