Yzermandius19

He'd rather bridge for three than sign for six, and then when the three year bridge is up, sign a two year bridge to take him to UFA. Any big name RFA who can't pull off a Matthews, would be foolish not to bridge. Rantanen should take a bridge deal, if he gives us UFA years, that would be dope, but that would doing the Avs a favor at his own expense. If Rantanen wants to pull a MacKinnon, that would just be too good to be true, he ain't that dumb. MacKinnon was coming off two down years from his rookie season, Rantanen just had back to back career years where put up over a point per game, it would insane for him to follow MacKinnon's lead and sign away some UFA years coming off an ELC.

He'll probably cave a little on term, but when that contract is up, he'll play hard ball on the term of the next deal, he ain't willing to sign away UFA years, and if he bridges, he'll be even less likely to budge next time around than this time around, which has him turning down McDavid money due to the term. Which is actually a smart move, because he'll make a lot more $12.5 million a year when he gets to UFA, so take a tiny hit now to get paid more in UFA, instead of signing away UFA years to get paid a little more.

Tavares and Nylander are the problem, if you move on from Marner, you'll see you're right back in Harold Ballardville, sooner or later.

Just fleece Dave Poile and get that defense back, keep Marner. Stop the homer lowballing of players who deserved to get paid, because you want him to take hometown discount that he ain't going to take, and move the bums who make paying that player a problem.

Hell once Nashville figure out that Duchene ain't a 1C, trade them Tavares or Nylander and get some defense back. With Tavares they'd finally have their 1C but for a short window, and with Nylander they'll probably fool themselves into think he's a 1C too. If you want that defense, I know a sucker GM loaded with them who is prone to trading them for some magic beans. Exploit that shit.

He ain't a problem child for wanting to get paid what he's worth, that's horsesh*t Marner hater talk.

I'm sure some teams desperate for a center will think Nylander is their 1C of their future, probably Nashville, if Poille is still the GM. He's determined to keep getting burned, like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.

Nylander ain't ever going to play center, if he does, I'd be surprised, he certainly won't be one on the Leafs if you cling to Tavares. Nylander is just an overpaid winger from where I am standing, though his contract won't look so bad in a few years. Matthews should have gotten more, but took the shorter term deal to get to UFA sooner, $11.6 for a winger is pricey, but some wingers are worth overpaying, Marner is one of them. Overpaying Nylander is a far more egregious offence than overpaying Marner, that I can tell you.

Trade Tavares, he's old and not getting any younger, don't keep him and ditch the young star, that's what Harold Ballard would do. Don't go back to Harold Ballardville Toronto, that never ends well.

Marner is worth $5 million more than Nylander, that's why you shouldn't have overpaid him. He's worth more than Tavares, and you're paying him $11 million, that's why shouldn't have overpaid him. Siding with Nylander over Marner is stupid. Siding with Tavares over Marner is also really stupid. What is wrong with you? If you didn't want to pay the big bucks for Marner, shouldn't have paid the big bucks for Tavares and Nylander, punishing Marner for that, is disrespectful, straight up.

If the Leafs are overrated and Marner won't put them over the top, then time to move Tavares and Nylander, because they won't put them over the top either. Pay Marner, the Tavares window is closing fast, best get a good return on him while you still can, and maximize the future chances of winning a cup, instead of being in win now mode when they are unlikely to win. Running Marner out of town and clinging to Tavares is the stupidest move possible in this situation. It's the Same Old Leafs to cling to aging stars and running the young stars out of town. Caving to Tavares and moving on from Marner, that's as Same Old as it gets dude, that's full blown Harold Ballarditis.

If Marner sits a year, then The Shanaplan is a fraud, Same Old Leafs. Marner won't be the one to blame, Shanahan and Dubas will be.

That's only the right strategy if Marner caves before the start of the season, if doing that will cause him to sit for a year, it's a gross miscalculation, a team killing miscalculation. That's a high stakes game of chicken the Leafs are willing to play, when they weren't willing to play in a much lower stakes Nylander situation.

If you can make them cave so easily, then why did they cave to less important players instead of sticking it to them? Surely it's easier to stick it to Nylander and make him cave than sticking it to Marner and making him cave, yet they almost let Willy sit for a year. Sticking it to Marner and not Tavares or Nylander is just horrible mismanagement, the Leafs need to learn to pick their fights better than this, and they are actually getting worse at picking them, by overreacting to picking their fights poorly in the first two instances and punishing the wrong guy for it. Making Marner sit is the Leafs panicking.

I'm going to blame Dubas for siding with Tavares and Nylander over Marner, and you should too. Making Marner the scapegoat is asinine, you're being silly. I'd be pissed if I was Marner too, they cave to Tavares and Nylander but won't cave to me? This team has fucked up priorities, this is a sinking ship given the choices they are making, best get out while I still can. Of course Marner is more likely to cave than I would, so maybe it will pay off, but if it doesn't, this will be the move the blows up the entire team, and proves it's the Same Old Leafs after all. Nothing has changed and the Shanaplan is a fraud if they throw Marner under the bus.

Taking a step back in the Tavares window is a terrible option, which is yet another reason why it was a bad idea to go down the Tavares road in the first place. They also have to pay more for both Matthews and Marner by signing him too. Stop taking this out on Mitchy, Tavares and Nylander are the problem. If you wanted to pay Marner less, you shouldn't have caved to them, but now that you made those mistakes, y'all want to go out and make a third one by treating Marner like they should have treated Nylander? How is making a third mistake going to make up for already making two? It's not.

If Marner won't cave, then he's not going to come back when you make him sit, as soon as UFA rolls around, he's gone. You'll have shortened the long term contention window of team, to cling to the short Tavares window with diminished chances for one year because you played hardball with Marner, which is strategically retarded. It's pure childish short sightedness to side with Tavares and Nylander over Marner. Sitting Marner a whole year and keeping them long term, is really dumb, for real.

Betting on older Tavares and shittier Nylander is not preferable to betting on Marner, if it's one or the other. Sitting Marner and riding Tavares makes the Tavares signing even worse. Mortgaging your future on a short window instead of moving it and maximizing the chances when the window opens for real, is foolishly short sighted. You are letting media spin about Marner being difficult instead of trying to get paid what he's worth turn you against a far more important part of the franchise going forward, and siding with an aging star who could very well be on the downslide by the time window opens for real. Marner > Tavares and Nylander Siding against Mitchy, is asinine.

Blow up the team if you have to. Make room for Marner, it's more important than spending the money on anyone other than Matthews. Everyone else other than Matthews is more expendable than Marner, even Andersen, because goalies good enough to get hot and win the cup are far less rare than super wingers like Marner. I'd hold onto Andersen though, just move Tavares and Nylander, that frees up plenty of cap space right there. All that said, if Marner is going to cave, then obviously don't cave to him and exploit that, but if he won't cave, then the Leafs damn well better cave, because the Leafs need Marner more than Marner needs the Leafs.

Trade Tavares and Nylander, cave to Marner, better strategy than letting him sit. If you ain't close, and the window won't truly open until the better D from within are coming, then cash in on Tavares coming off a career year, and wait until Nylander gets on a nice streak and move his ass too.

Who wants to overpay Tavares and Nylander and run Marner out of town? Crazy people, that's who. Don't be that stupid Dubas, don't listen to these morons.

Marner > Tavares Marner > Nylander Siding with Tavares or Nylander over Marner is legit crazy town. Displaced anger is a helluva drug. Just because y'all overpaid Nylander and Tavares is the dumbest reason to run Marner out of town, Leafs fans and media so toxic, y'all are out to ruin the team.

Matthews could be generational, but could merely be Franchise. Marner is just a franchise guy, but franchise guys shouldn't be treated with scorched earth because y'all overpaid Nylander. That's so dumb, just trade Nylander, enough of this Marner can fuck off instead nonsense, stop taking the Nylander stuff out on Marner with this displaced anger shit. Also if the Leafs aren't close, then going and getting Tavares was a big mistake, because Marner is a lot less replaceable than Tavares and he's getting old. Caving to Tavares and running Marner out of town for playing hardball, also dumb. Trade Tavares and Nylander if you aren't close, wait until you can sell them at a high point, and bring back Marner.

Caving into Marner is not panicking, it's being prudent.

You can say the same thing about Matthews, yet you overpaid him, treating Marner like he's closer to Nylander than Matthews is dumb. Not caving to Marner is a mistake, unless he'll cave to the Leafs, and is just fronting for a better deal. Having him sit for a year is Le'Veon Bell 2.0, don't be the Steelers. The Steelers were better able to replace Le'Veon's production than the Leafs will be able to replace Marner's.