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Definition of eternal damnation: State of being in hell forever Eternal damnation refers to the state of being in hell forever, often described as a form of perpetual punishment for unrepentant sinners after death. In a biblical context, it signifies the final judgment of those who remain separated from God, culminating in unending suffering. This concept is frequently mentioned in religious texts, emphasizing the consequences of rejecting divine mercy and holiness. Cambridge University Press & Assessment+3 "16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. {reproved: or, discovered} 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. " John 3:16-21 KJV LTBS TV Broadcasting | Let the Bible Speak
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Companies that build pipelines don't attempt to start a project when the government has laws in place that prevent them from being approved. That is the still the situation. So far Carney has done nothing to kill bill C69, the no more pipeline law. He has done nothing to kill the ban on pipelines on the B.C. north coast. So he has really done nothing yet to show he is in favour of building pipelines and selling our oil to foreign countries. He has a globalist history of being part of the U.N. climate change fighters and on the World Economic Forum and a Vatican committee, all globalist powers. His history so far in his life would seem to strongly include globalist anti-energy beliefs. He has the same old Trudeau people in his government with the same old ideology. I don't see him changing things much. Canada could become an energy superpower but probably not under the Liberals.
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Where's the respect for individual human rights? There is none or not much.
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Premier Ford said recently that the Federal government needs to give migrants or refugees work papers much sooner. Apparently it takes a year or more and in the meantime, taxpayers are supporting them. That adds up to a lot of money. But we know Liberals don't care about taxpayer money. That's why we are going deeper into debt. If they gave them work permits, a lot of them could find jobs and support themselves.
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It's the CNN version of how it works. That's gospel for some. You folks are lying. That's not what I said. I made it clear that a deportation process must be according to international law and conventions that protect the human rights of people. Not just arresting, incarerating in inhumane conditions, and deporting people to meet some kind of quota ordered by the Trump admin. Obviously you don't believe in a fair and just process that respects human rights. We will have to agree to disagree.
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You didn't read the article. I am reposting it below. I didn't say Jesus was a Philistine. I said he is a Jew. The areas such as the West Bank and Gaza are made up of many different ethnic groups. Some may be descendants of Philistines, Canaanites, and ancient Hebrews the article says. Nobody believes Jesus was a Philistine and I never said that. It is a proven fact he is a Jew. Canaanites, Philistines, and ancient Hebrews The ancestors of Gaza Palestinians can be traced back to various groups throughout history, including the Canaanites, Philistines, and ancient Hebrews. Genetic studies indicate that modern Palestinians share a common ancestry with other Levantine populations, suggesting a deep historical connection to the region. Some Palestinian families, particularly in the Hebron and Nablus regions, claim Jewish and Samaritan ancestry, while others trace their lineage to Ishmael, indicating a diverse heritage shaped by migrations and intermarriages over centuries. Wikipedia"
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Maybe but are you qualified to say who is a refugee and who can't stay? If a country signed onto the U.N. convention and protocols on refugees, they are bound to follow that process. Ordinary Joe Blows on the street like you and me are not the ones who make those determinations of who is a refugee under the convention. If you want to be able to make those kind of decisions, you better become qualified and get on the government bodies that make those decisions.
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Doesn't matter where they came from. Only a proper refugee screening process can determine who meets the criteria of a refugee according to the U.N. protocols on refugees. So what gives you the right to say anyone from Mexico can't be a refugee? You should know there are areas in Mexico that are controlled by the Mexican cartels and are dangerous places to live. There could be many people who are in danger and fleeing from gangs.
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" Is Jewish genealogy passed down through the mother? Yes, Jewish genealogy is traditionally passed down through the mother. According to Jewish law (halacha), a child is considered Jewish if they are born to a Jewish mother. This principle is rooted in the belief that the identity of the mother is always certain, unlike the father's lineage, which can be uncertain. The matrilineal descent has been a fundamental principle of Jewish identity since the Jewish people came into existence. JewishBoston+5 unquote
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Here is an interesting article from a Jewish website on the name Palestine: " By James Sinkinson Arabs living in what Jews call the Land of Israel, including Judea and Samaria, call themselves “Palestinians” after “Palestine,” the non-Jewish term for the region. They did not do so until quite recently, but nonetheless, many Arabs in the region and their sympathizers have co-opted the words “Palestine” and “Palestinian” to give their national movement a sense of longevity, credibility and ownership. The word “Palestine” is not Arab or Middle Eastern in origin. It dates back 1,900 years and is derived from a people who were not native to the region — the Philistines, a people from the Aegean Sea who were closely related to the ancient Greeks. They lived on the coast of what is now the Gaza Strip and Israel, but had disappeared by the 6th century BCE. The name associated with them, however, did not die out. The Romans, in a fit of spite, reapplied the term “Palestine” to the Land of Israel centuries later, after they defeated a Judean uprising in 135 CE. In effect, the Romans sought to erase the association between the Land of Israel and the Jewish people. The “Palestine” moniker continued to be used long after the Roman Empire fell. When Muslim armies conquered the region in 629 CE, they Arabized the name to “Filastin.” This term cannot be found in the Quran, while the name “Israel” is mentioned several times. The regional name “Palestine” endured. During the Middle Ages, it became common in early modern English and was employed by the Crusaders. But for nearly 2,000 years, it never referred to a country or a group of people. In short, for most of recorded history, there were never any “Palestinians.” After World War I, the modern contours of “Palestine” were established. The British Mandate for Palestine originally consisted of present-day Israel, Gaza, Judea and Samaria, and Jordan. During the British Mandate period, the term “Palestinian” usually referred to Jews living in the Mandate, as well as their institutions. Before Israel was founded, several prominent Jewish and Zionist organizations used the name “Palestine.” These included the Palestine Post newspaper and the Palestine Symphony Orchestra, which are now the Jerusalem Post and the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra. At the time, many Arabs in British Mandatory Palestine considered themselves part of Greater Syria rather than “Palestinians.” In 1937, a local Arab leader told the Palestine Royal Commission, “There is no such country [as Palestine]. Palestine is a term the Zionists invented! Our country for centuries was part of Syria.” Arab historian Philip Hitti echoed this sentiment shortly before Israel declared independence, saying, “There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.” The watershed moment for the “Palestinian” national movement came after the 1967 Six-Day War, when Israel won control of Judea and Samaria from Jordan. The words of author Walid Shoebat of Bethlehem sum up the profound shift in local Arabs’ identity: “On June 4, 1967, I was a Jordanian, and overnight I became a Palestinian.” Since 1967, a whole national mythology has been created around the terms “Palestine” and “Palestinian.” For example, the Palestinian Arabs have claimed to be descendants of the Canaanites who preceded the ancient Israelites and Philistines in the Holy Land. In 2018, Palestinian Authority chief Mahmoud Abbas told the United Nations’ Security Council, “We are the descendants of the Canaanites that lived in the land 5,000 years ago and continued to live there to this day.” But most Palestinians trace their origins to prominent tribes in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Egypt. Yasser Arafat was born in Egypt. Even the Kanaan family in Nablus (Shechem) traces its ancestry to Syria. In any case, the Canaanites had disappeared more than 1,600 years before the Arabs first arrived in the Holy Land. Preposterously, Palestinians have even asserted that Jesus was a Palestinian. In a 2013 Christmas message, Abbas called Jesus a “Palestinian messenger.” In 2019, Palestinian-American activist Linda Sarsour posted on Twitter, “Jesus was a Palestinian of Nazareth.” We beg the pardon of Mr. Abbas and his fellow fantasists, but Jesus was a Jew from Judea, which was named Judea because it was and still is the homeland of the Jewish people. While Arabs in the region are free to call themselves whatever they want, they are not free to hijack the 3,000-year history of the Holy Land for themselves. In the end, the name “Palestine” represents the Jews’ original dispossession of their homeland 1,900 years ago. unquote Here’s how the Palestinians got their name | The Jewish Star | www.thejewishstar.com
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Not sure why you say that. I don't call Israel Palestine. The Arabs claim the area is Palestine. It is a disputed area. ".... Bible shows that Jesus is a Jew. Jesus was born to a Jewish mother, Mary, and raised in a Jewish home, which confirms His Jewish identity. He is listed in the genealogies as the son of David and Abraham, tracing His lineage through the Jewish people. Jesus identified Himself as a Jew, stating, "You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews" (John 4:22). His teachings and actions aligned with Jewish customs and traditions, further establishing His Jewish heritage. Thus, the Bible consistently portrays Jesus as a Jew, affirming His Jewish identity and role in Jewish history. 4 Sources" " Matthew 1 King James Version 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; 3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; 4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; 6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; 7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; 8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; 10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; 11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: 12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; 14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; 15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. 18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. 20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. 24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.
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I think many of them, whether you call them Arabs or Palestinians, are descendants of ancient tribes that lived in the middle east. " Canaanites, Philistines, and ancient Hebrews The ancestors of Gaza Palestinians can be traced back to various groups throughout history, including the Canaanites, Philistines, and ancient Hebrews. Genetic studies indicate that modern Palestinians share a common ancestry with other Levantine populations, suggesting a deep historical connection to the region. Some Palestinian families, particularly in the Hebron and Nablus regions, claim Jewish and Samaritan ancestry, while others trace their lineage to Ishmael, indicating a diverse heritage shaped by migrations and intermarriages over centuries. Wikipedia" "Prior to the mid-20th century, the term Palestinian was used as regional term, much like referring to residents of parts of the United States as “Southerners.” This usage dates back to several centuries before Christ. The word Palestinian has its roots in a Hebrew word meaning “Philistine.” Until Israel was re-established as a nation in 1948, Palestine was the term for the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. The word Palestinian was applied to anyone living in that area. As one of the longest continually inhabited places on earth, this region has changed political ownership numerous times and has been a nexus of migration for many different cultures. The modern-day “Palestinians” represent a mixture of local inhabitants and many other groups of Muslims brought from Bosnia, the Balkans, and the Caucasus by the Turks in the 16th to 19th centuries; and from the Sudan, Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon by the British in the 20th century. The term Palestinian did not take on its current popular meaning until the mid-20th century. In common use today, the term Palestinian is primarily applied to non-Jewish, Arabic-speaking residents of this region. This usage is highly controversial, however, since for most of human history a “Palestinian” was simply a person born or living in that land. When used in reference only to non-Jews, it implies an historical claim to the territory in opposition to Israel. In reality, the concept of Palestine as a nation-state in opposition to Israel or as a racial group predating the presence of Jewish inhabitants is historically false. Recent genetic studies have confirmed that the ancestries of Jewish and Arabic inhabitants of Palestine are extremely similar. Geneticists have concluded that the people living in these regions share a common ancestry, through people groups continually living in the Palestine territory. This directly contradicts the claim that certain inhabitants, particularly Jewish inhabitants of Israel, have no ancestral claim to the land. At the same time, there is no evidence suggesting that modern Palestinians are direct descendants of either the Canaanites or the Philistines of the Old Testament. Many Arabs are descendants of Ishmael; but, since the land of Canaan was promised to the sons of Jacob, Arabs have no biblical claim to the land of Palestine. Regardless of definitions and precise lineage, Palestinians, like all human beings, are ultimately descended from the same original mother and father (Genesis 3:20). Human beings have often forgotten this when constructing cultural, geographic, and political lines. Much of the angst over who should or should not be called a Palestinian, or whether it matters where such a group came from, is based on divisions that forget our common heritage." From whom are the modern Palestinians descended? | GotQuestions.org
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I have always believed in climate change. That is different than believing man is the cause of it. Climate change has always occurred. Man has never been the cause of it. Now many are saying man is contributing to it by doing things that release CO2 into the atmosphere, but there is no real proof of it. It is something that cannot be proven because of the size of the planet and it cannot be replicated in a laboratory.
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blackbird replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
That's an abuse of the forum. If you only want posters with your opinion, create your own forum with your own rules. -
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blackbird replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Nobody should be creating threads titled with a poster's name. That is an abuse of the politics discussion forum. This is an obvious attempt to smear one individual. It is a deplorable use of the forum. -
How do you know? Did you count them?
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You better study the U.N. refugee protocols of 1951 and 1967. A refugee remains a refugee after they arrive in a country regardless how they get in. You are not qualified either to say who is one or who is not.
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Refugees are not criminals.
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Who ever said that they should? Do you have an example to cite? if you do a little search, there are lots of news articles on the internet showing how the admin is arresting, imprisoning, and deporting thousands of people regardless of why or where they came from. Some of those articles were posted on the US Federal politics threads. All this is common knowledge. " Asylum & the Rights of Refugees OVERVIEW States have been granting protection to individuals and groups fleeing persecution for centuries; however, the modern refugee regime is largely the product of the second half of the twentieth century. Like international human rights law, modern refugee law has its origins in the aftermath of World War II as well as the refugee crises of the interwar years that preceded it. Article 14(1) of the (UDHR), which was adopted in 1948, guarantees the right to seek and enjoy asylum in other countries. Subsequent regional human rights instruments have elaborated on this right, guaranteeing the “right to seek and be granted asylum in a foreign territory, in accordance with the legislation of the state and international conventions.” , art. 22(7); , art. 12(3)." Asylum & the Rights of Refugees - Center for Global Law and Justice | Resource Hub
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The fact the whole operation of arresting and deporting undocumented migrants without the due process and no consideration that they may be refugees is against the U.N. protocols which the U.S. signed onto in 1967. None of that is respected.
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I know but there are some things they are correct about. Not everything is black and white. You can't treat the third world humanity like dirt just because you live in a rich, powerful country and can do whatever you want.
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My postings had nothing to do with freedom convoy protesters. Deporting undocumented migrants broadly without a proper due process in accordance with the U.N. refugee protocols is contrary to international law. I won't get into a long drawn out debate on this thread because it has been done under the U.S. politics thread and I spent enough time on it there. Will just quote one OP I posted from the U.S. federal politics thread. quote From what I have read on search engines most of these people are not criminals. I don't think people who cross the border without proper documentation, if they are refugees or fleeing from a bad situation, can be classified as criminals. quote What Does The Bible Say About Immigrants And Refugees Showing Compassion and Kindness In our faith journey, we find great teachings about showing compassion and kindness, especially towards immigrants and refugees. As followers of Christ, we are called to love others and to actively express that love through our actions. The Bible consistently encourages us to care for those who may be struggling, reminding us that compassion opens our hearts and enriches our communities. While we navigate our relationships, we must remember that everyone deserves dignity, support, and a sense of welcome among us. Exodus 22:21 “Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.” – Exodus 22:21 This verse encourages us to treat foreigners with respect, reminding us of our past. We are called to extend kindness since we, too, may have faced struggles. Deuteronomy 10:18-19 “He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.” – Deuteronomy 10:18-19 In these verses, God commands us to love and care for immigrants, echoing the importance of empathy. Our own experiences can inform our ability to help those in need. Leviticus 19:34 “The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.” – Leviticus 19:34 This verse emphasizes equality and love. We are reminded to treat immigrants like family, which inspires inclusivity and acceptance in our communities. Psalms 146:9 “The LORD watches over the foreigner and sustains the fatherless and the widow, but he frustrates the ways of the wicked.” – Psalms 146:9 God’s watchful eye is on those in need, including immigrants. This promise reassures us that we must also stand with and support those who are vulnerable and seeking refuge. Matthew 25:35 “For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in.” – Matthew 25:35 unquote What Does The Bible Say About Immigrants And Refugees (31 Verses Explained) - Christianity Path Seems pretty clear how refugees are to be treated.
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blackbird replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
I don't think Trump has much love for Canada. It is obvious you are not Canadian. We are not going to become the 51st state. We didn't rip off the U.S. for hundreds of billions of dollars and we are not a major source of fentanyl as he claims. A trade deficit is not ripping anybody off and only about 1% of the fentanyl came from Canada. We had a good trading relationship for many years before Trump started his trade war against the rest of the world. Now some of the MAGA gang are complaining about forest fire smoke from Canada. What next? Where do all the illegal guns in Canada come from? One guess.
