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Not sure what you mean. He claimed two years ago U.S. had dumped twice as much CO2 as China. The graph I posted shows the CO2 from fossil in 2018. China's was almost double the U.S. Right to Left claimed the reverse.

There has to be some form of justice in the world for crimes against humanity, just as there were war crime trials for the Naziis. Likewise there has to be trade sanctions for countries guilty of crimes against humanity. We will have to look elsewhere to trade.

Right to Left, This shows China's CO2 emissions are 28% of the global emissions, while the U.S. is 15%. But the total fossil fuel emissions is still about a miniscule amount of the CO2 in the atmosphere.

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"There is a 'very credible case' that China is committing genocide against Muslim Uighurs, UK legal experts conclude Group of UK lawyers made the conclusion after reviewing 'sufficient evidence' They also deemed China's treatment of Uighur people crimes against humanity An opinion letter held President Xi personally responsible for China's conduct It is estimated that more than one million ethnic Muslims have been rounded up The Biden administration also labelled China's policies in Xinjiang as genocide" - thedailymail.co.uk

It doesn't really matter who opened relations with China first. The problem as I've stated was Pierre Trudeau and following governments in Canada as well as other western countries cozied up to Communist China ever since. It is dealing with a diabiolical system which from the start murdered millions of their own people and always have denied their people human rights. What is the west think they're doing dealing with China? Obviously money and international trade always was all that mattered.

I doubt Trudeau was especially acting for Kissinger and Nixon. There was no love between Pierre Trudeau and Nixon. The book "The Truth about Trudeau" (Pierre Trudeau) has a lot of information about how Pierre Trudeau had a great interest in the USSR, China, and Communist Cuba, especially Fidel Castro. Trudeau traveled to China and was very interested in their country and system. He also traveled to Cuba and became close friends with Castro. Trudeau shunned our American allies and reduced the number of NATO troops in Europe. Trudeau was a kind of radical who seemed to operate outside the realm of western democracy. 1970 was also the middle of the Viet Nam war when America was fighting against the growth of Communism in Viet Nam.

Is the CCP not trying to eliminate a whole group, the Muslims?

The Communist system is already an enemy of America and western democracies. Pierre Trudeau cozied up with the CCP and Chairman Mao in 1970 and established diplomatic relations. The Uyghurs and people of Hong Kong don't need Xi to lose their rights and the Uyghurs being exterminated is happening now even with close trade ties. It is the Communist system which opposes human rights and is our adversary and was not recognized as such by Pierre Trudeau, and all politicians in Canada ever since. You can't sit down and deal with the Devil without expecting to lose in the end or you can't expect a fair outcome by trading and dealing with them. Liberals have thought all along that by dealing with them, the CCP would somehow change and become like the west. This was part of the deception westerners and liberals swallowed. There is a price to pay and it is now at the Cold War stage as China extends it's influence and control over western nations. The problem began in 1949 when China was taken over by Communist-Leninist and western liberals could not see the sinister implications for the future. This actually goes back to the 1800s when certain missionaries from Canada traveled to China and began their work there. Later in the 20th century some of them established some ties with leaders of the two main political movements and even their top leaders. A few of these missionaries were badly misguided and became friends with the Communist revolutionary leaders and actually morally supported them. This relationship seems to have continued after the revolution in 1949 and there was some connection with Canada's department of foreign affairs. This led to Canada trying to establish relations between Canada and the CCP. This finally happened when Canada became one of the first nations to establish diplomatic relations with the CCP in 1970 under the liberal leader Pierre Trudeau, who had a fascination with Communist dictatorships.

"11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. 12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret." Ephesian 5:11, 12 KJB The Bible warns of evil associations but apparently most politicians didn't get the message. America, Canada, and the rest of the west ignored this Biblical principle and went into Communist China with eyes wide open and established relations, massive trade, education exchanges, immigration, investment, knowledge transfer, and permitted infiltration of all facets of western society. Now the mask is off and the west is seeing the real face of Communism and doesn't like it. The alliance of evil between the Communist countries is increasing it's dominance over the west and the west is floundering in panic and doesn't know which way to turn. We are in a Cold War friends and it is time to wake up out of the slumber. It is time to turn to God and his infallible word, be converted, and pray because that is the west's only hope at this point because this is a deadly serious situation which could get far worse. "12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12 KJB

Appeasement never worked with Hitler and the Nazis and it won't work with Communist China and Russia. America and the west are in a new Cold War with the Alliance of Evil but many have not realized it yet. They play hardball. Trying to placate them won't work and may just encourage them to be more aggressive. The west, and Canada especially, is in an extremely difficult position but got itself into it by it's own choice. There are no easy solutions. We are in for a struggle for the long haul and it may not end well.

The book Axis of Evil by retired LT. General Robert Maginnis describes in his book Alliance of Evil how the People's Republic of China and the Russian Federation are in alliance and represent the biggest challenge to America and it's western allies that the world has ever faced. Maginnes spent much of his life serving America in high military operations and pentagon military intelligence and has a vast knowledge of world affairs and the threats America and the west face. He took a bullet through his shoulder and managed to survive it. Took part in operations in the Panama with the removal of dictator Noriega, operations in the failed operation in Somalia, and various other operations. He worked in intelligence for top brass as well. He says America and the west are locked in a new cold war with Russia and China. Their aggressive behavior is evident in many ways throughout the west as they have infiltrated all aspects of society and collected vast amounts of information technology, including militarily, and embedded agents and influence throughout our political systems and every facet of society. Their goal is dominance. We can complain and protest as much as we wish, but this is not going to change the situation. They have global ambitions that we may not be able to stop.

Yep, and the Liberals and most politicians and a lot of business people in Canada have had a lot of dealing with China over the years, but it is now coming home to haunt them.

What about the one or two million Uighurs who are suffering rape, forced sterilization, forced abortion, abuse, and possibly death in concentration camps. They are trying to destroy a whole population. Does the world stay silent and do nothing? There are other minority religious groups that have suffered endless persecution, prison, etc. as well yet Canada went ahead and did all kinds of business with China for decades.

I tried to explain that climate change, God and the Bible are all inter-related. God is in control of events. Man cannot control such things as climate change. The fact that Daniel prophesied the coming of Christ in Daniel 9:25 KJB and this was fulfilled centuries later could not be rigged because Daniel lived about 600 years before Christ. Daniel prophesied "25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks." Daniel 9:25 KJB Now, Bible scholars say one week of years refers to 7 years. So if you multiply 7 weeks plus 62 weeks, that is, 69 X 7 = 453 years. From the time Jerusalem was restored and rebuilt was exactly 453 years to the time of Christ's birth. There is no way this is a scam. It is just a plain fact that happened exactly as foretold in the Hebrew Bible five centuries earlier. This proves the authority of the Bible and the fact God inspired men to write it. It is undeniable. Check the prophecy in Isaiah chapter 53. This also is a prophecy about Christ and described what happened to Christ. The prophet Isaiah lived during the time of several kings of Israel mentioned in Isaiah 1:1, believed to be around 740 B.C. or more than 700 years before Christ came. So what does this have to do with climate change or global warming. Plenty. What I showed you proves that Bible is true and God is in control. God mentions nothing about man-made climate change. Climate has always occurred, is a natural change, and is under God's control. No need to run around claiming the sky is falling. There is no climate emergency that we can do anything about.

You missed the fact that the Bible was written over a period of 1,600 years and the prophecies (predictions) were written by the prophets who lived long before the prophecy was fulfilled. The Bible is not one book. It is a collection of many books written by many different prophets and apostles. The Old Testament was completed about 2,400 years ago. So the book with the prophecy about the Messiah was written centuries before Christ came. It's fulfillment is described in the gospels written in the first century A.D. That prophecy was fulfilled hundreds of years after it was given in the book of Daniel. If something is prophesied centuries before it happened by one prophet and then centuries later recorded that it happened, it is clear that it is a fulfilled prophecy. There is no gimmick and no way it was anything but a future event fortold by a writer inspired by God.

Stephen Hawking was a die-hard atheist. He is the last person on earth to listen to. You don't have to give any church any money to investigate and find out where the Bible came from. All you have to do is Google authority of the Bible or Is the Bible authority and start reading some of the articles. You can find that out without spending a cent just by reading about it on the internet. There is lots of evidence in the Bible itself. One is fulfilled prophecy. A prediction about a future event could only be done on a consistent basis if it came from God. The Bible does that. There are many fulfilled prophecies. Google Bible prophecies fulfilled and you will find them. Here is one: "Daniel 9:25 – “So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks of years and sixty-two weeks of years” In this prophecy, Daniel is claiming that there will be 69 weeks of years between the issuing of a decree to rebuild Jerusalem and the appearance of the Messiah. Now keep in mind that this bold prediction came 538 years before Christ was born. Now let’s investigate a little history, OK? In 464 BC, Artaxerxes, a Persian king, ascended to the throne. His twentieth year as king would be 464 BC. Nehemiah, the Jewish cupbearer to King Artaxerxes, was deeply concerned with the reports about the ruined condition of Jerusalem which came about as the result of their being defeated (Nehemiah 1:1-4) and as a result, he petitioned the king: >Nehemiah 2:5,6 – “Send me to Judah, to the city of my fathers’ tombs, that I may rebuild it. So it pleased the king to send me”. Scripture then provides us with the exact date of this decree to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem. According to the scriptures the decree is issued “in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king” (Nehemiah 2:1). The Jewish calendar month was Nisan, and since no day is given, it is reasonable to assume that the date would be understood as the first, the Jewish New Year’s Day. And, in the Julian calendar we presently use, the corresponding date would be March 5, 444 B.C. This was the day on which the decree was issued to restore and rebuild Jerusalem." - List Of Bible Prophecies Fulfilled | Believers Portal

The Big Bang theory is just that a theory. It is faulty for a number of reasons. An explosion does not create order. It creates chaos. The big bang theory does not even attempt to explain where it all came from and how order was created out of chaos. The universe is an orderly creation. The sub atomic particles, energy, molecules and laws of physics all work together. This demonstrates an infinitely high intelligence, or God who created it all. All these particles and laws that govern them could not have come about by a cosmic accident. Science does not begin to address that because there is no explanation apart from God. If you looked into why the Bible is authoritative, you might find out why. But until you do that, we're really beating a dead horse.

The thing is that God created the earth with apparent age at the time he created it. The Bible says he created trees and all creatures. Then he created man. So at the time everything was created, they had to have an age built in. So the rocks and earth would have had an age which may appear old, but actually was created that way in an instant. So that crater you mentioned would likely have been created with the appearance it was 1.849 billion years old. You underestimate the power of God. When he created things, they would have to have an appearance of an age. The alternative is where did everything come from? There is no explanation apart from a Creator.

All Canadians do not think the same way. There are many varied opinions. I think God and the Bible is central. God created everything and made science what it is. He gave man knowledge. What you do with it or don't is up to you and anyone else. We don't live in a Communist system where only one line of thinking is permitted. Isn't that what democracy and freedom of speech is all about.

No, I don't think so. You need to study the Bible. Genesis says God created the earth. It doesn't give the date but it is believed the earth (and universe) was created 12 to 15 thousand years ago. You probably don't believe that or the Bible, So you need to study the reasons why the Bible is authoritative and what many scientists believe about creation. If you study that you will be in a better position to make an informed decision about the issue. There are many articles on the internet and some are at creation.com website. Man is believed to have been created six to ten thousand years ago. The point is God created man and gave him dominion over all creatures a relatively short time ago. So that means God is in control. Atheist scientists who believe in the millions or billions of years theory think creation is some kind of cosmic accident and that there is no Creator in control. That is fiction. Creation could not have happened by accident. Do you really think that God, who knows the future and everything that is going to happen, would not be in control of the climate? I can tell you almost all climate alarmists and doom sayers do not believe the Bible and think man can control the climate. That is the reason they look at the figures around CO2 and the atmosphere and come to the climate alarmism conclusion. There is no proof man causes global warming. It is purely speculation. Speculation is not proof. They have a tendency to automatically blame man for everything that is happening in the weather or climate. It is ludicrous. There are a lot of things prophesied that will happen in the future, but the Bible says nothing about CO2 or global warming as a result. There are major calamities coming on the world but I don't think it has anything to do with burning fossil fuels. Many of the climate alarmists are worshiping mother earth, a false god. They would sacrifice mankind to save the planet in their mind. You can read the article on anthropogenic global warming at: A biblical and scientific approach to climate change - creation.com Part of the article says: "Correlation does not mean causation: That the temperature has been increasing along with the level of CO2 does not mean that one caused the other. For example, between June and December of 2008 both the temperature in Calgary AB Canada and the Toronto Stock Exchange Index decreased dramatically. However, one did not cause the other. Thus, the observation that the atmospheric temperature and CO2 concentration are both increasing does not mean that one is causing the other—either one may, indeed, be causing the other, or both could be being caused by something else, or they could be completely unrelated. Science is often captured by a ‘ruling paradigm’: A paradigm is a framework used by default for the interpretation of data. It is just assumed to be true. Sometimes this is done explicitly when scientists do not have a better idea and so they just run with the best idea they have, anticipating that they could be wrong. At other times, the ruling paradigm is subliminal or is being hidden by certain players in the game. In the latter cases, data that are inconsistent with the paradigm are treated as errors by the researcher or dismissed because the researcher is judged not to have appropriate credentials, unacceptable political leanings, any sort of religious beliefs, or funding sources deemed inappropriate. Or, if none of these applies, the errors are accommodated within the ruling paradigm by introducing ancillary hypotheses. The Ptolemaic geostationary model of the solar system is a well-known (false) paradigm that ruled the interpretation of astronomical observations for about 1,500 years. The big bang and biological evolution are two modern ruling paradigms in cosmology and biology/paleontology respectively. Thus, it should not surprise us that climate science has been captured by the ruling paradigm that anthropogenic CO2 will cause catastrophic climate change. Nothing else is considered. Peer-review does not ensure truth: Peer review, especially when coupled with publication in ‘prestigious’ scientific journals, has come to be taken as the ‘gold standard’ of science. And the contents of scientific papers are often treated as beyond question. There are numerous examples of failure in the peer review process. A prominent incident prompted one academic to write a scathing critique of peer review that was published in The Guardian:23 “At its worst, it [peer review] is merely window dressing that gives the unwarranted appearance of authority, a cursory process which confers no real value, enforces orthodoxy, and overlooks both obvious analytical problems and outright fraud entirely.” The Climategate emails (see later) showed that this problem afflicts climate science."

Take a look at this graph. Shows man contributes very little CO2.

The total CO2 is still only 0.04% of atmospheric gases, and of that man's contribution is insignificant. Almost all of the 0.04% is natural CO2, not from man-made fossil fuels. You haven't addressed that. This is all just a U.N. political scheme to bring in U.N. control of the populations.

If if the total man contributes has gone up from 6GT, it is still miniscule compared with the total CO2 in the atmosphere and the total is still only 0.04% of the total atmosphere. Water vapour is the cause. Far more water vapour in the atmosphere. So it is logical to believe CO2 is not the cause of global warming.

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.04% of the atmosphere. "The atmosphere contains 720 billion tons of CO2 and humans contribute only 6 GT additional load on this balance" Figure out from that how much of the CO2 in the atmosphere is produced by humans. "That means humans contribute 0.0083 % of the CO2. What is 0.0083 of 0.04? It is so small it is almost immeasurable. The amount of water vapour varies from a trace up to 4% of the atmosphere. Water vapour is what causes global warming. CO2 contributes very little to global warming. Man's contribution is so infinitely small that it is impossible to prove man causes global warming. The infinitesimally small amount man contributes would point to man not contributing to global warming. It would appear man contributes 0.00032 % of the CO2 in the atmosphere which is nearly nothing.