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Fatherly, you ain't, Micheal. Objective, you ain't. Planning your escape like you always do, you are.

Your silence is support for these slaughters. Of course you know what to do. You would do what any just, sane individual would do, demand that those who perpetuate these crimes are held to account. But you don't do it. If you are cognizant of these things, why would you be so silent? There is plenty of evidence, in fact, it is overwhelming but the propaganda, some which you have just advanced, is overwhelming. Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Guatmala, Chile, Angola, Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia, ... , all likely within your lifetime, or your ken.

Rue doesn't make points, and you know that, Michael. It is simply a morass of babble. I have given you numbered specific points on many occasions and all you do is flee.

If you can't recognize what a hypocrite you are being, then there is no hope for objectivity from you. If you think it was such a grand idea/ideal, then why do you sit silent and allow it to be so thoroughly abused? If it is so grand, why do you sit stone cold silent about the hundreds of millions/billions that have not had this ideal brought to them. In fact the opposite. Tens of millions slaughtered, Micheal, hundreds of millions having had their lives destroyed and their wealth stolen, and you dance about showing off your rousseau.

You sink lower with every voluble, confused posting, Rue. You are a complete study in obfuscation. I doubt if even you know what you are trying to say.

And you never say anything about that yet you like to pass yourself off as a moral individual.

It is all three; incoherent, illogical and nonsensical to describe something for which there is no evidence. When all the evidence points to a complete frame job. The FBI says no OBL, yet you have still heard all the US government liars advancing that nonsense, when they all promised proof/evidence, and none was ever given. But the lying USA, the lying western nations, don't even want to go near the "retaliation" idea, yet they seem to think they were justified in their retaliation, which was just US war crimes and terrorism, which, you must note, was, AGAIN, a huge mess of US/western lies, STILL REPEATED everywhere. This is all the ultimate in incoherent, illogical and nonsensical behavior.

The Americans were the illegal invaders, the war criminals, the terrorists, trying to harm the people of Afghanistan, just as they had been doing since the 1970s, using them as pawns, quite content with the deaths of millions of them to advance US evil.

You don't criticize because criticism of Israel has been made into a smear campaign and you don't have the cojones to do so.

You have to be blind, no reply necessary, for I know you are and if you haven't ever seen this, there are plenty of your cohorts who could remind you that the US does all these things, as a matter of course, in their terrorist actions/their war crimes against the peoples of the world. The following is but one tiny example of the same things the US has done all over the world to innocent people. ... Systematically, the Contras have been assassinating religious workers, teachers, health workers, elected officials, government administrators. Remember the "Assassination Manual" that surfaced in 1984? It caused such a stir that President Reagan had to address it himself in the presidential debates with Walter Mondale. They use terror to traumatize society so that it cannot function. I don't mean to abuse you with verbal violence, but you have to understand what your Government and its agents are doing. They go into villages. They haul out families. With the children forced to watch, they castrate the father. They peel the skin off his face. They put a grenade in his mouth, and pull the pin. With the children forced to watch, they gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts off. And sometimes, for variety, they make the parents watch while they do these things to the children. This is nobody's propaganda ! There have been over a hundred thousand American "Witnesses for Peace" who've gone down there, and they have filmed and photographed and witnessed these atrocities immediately after they've happened, and documented thirteen thousand people killed this way -- mostly women and children. These are the activites done by the Contras. The Contras are the people President Reagan called "freedom fighters." He said: "They are the moral equivalent of our founding fathers." http://www.serendipity.li/cia/stock1.html

Nice little diversion, Michael. The founding fathers, in and of itself a brilliant piece of propaganda, were greedy terrorists who saw a way to gather unto themselves all the vast wealth the UK was taking. They were nothing more than terrorists, using fancy language that they knew was necessary to validate their crimes. They were purveyors of genocide, they were deeply amoral human beings, self admitted so. Since that initial crime the US has been on a Nazi like rampage, murdering and stealing, committing crimes that have no place for a country of such, supposedly, high ideals. In point of fact, it is precisely folks like you who debase these noble ideals by providing unqualified support to those who have been debasing the ideals since the beginning. They are like Mafia, pretending they are beneficent.

I don't know and don't care because I'm not the one who's trying to prove something. That is dishonest. You have been providing support for a conspiracy theory that has nothing supporting it. You see the jokes that pass as USGOCT supporters' evidence. That's all there is yet still you cling to the silly notion that YOU need to see millions of scientists/... supporting the science that shows, unequivocally, that the USGOCT is a completely false one. The science that describes that the USGOCT is false is uncontested science. What don't you understand about that? http://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/ae.html That would be because I operate on a basis of reality. You don't. How did US government ONLY nanothermite get in WTC dust? How did metals with melting points way higher than the fuel that was available under the USGOCT get melted and vaporized? How did three buildings fall in a manner that broke the laws of physics? Are you incapable of looking at the evidence and, at a minimum, offering an informed opinion? Are you afraid to do so? If that is the case, that certainly says awful things about out society, things that it seems you would despise.

Good on ya, Michael. Let's make anti-Muslim tropes as socially abhorrent as being anti-Semitic. They are equal forms of virulent racism.

Dog doo!. Your anti-Muslim can be traced directly to specific US policies/lies/illegal invasions/false flag events/... . Never from you supporters of evil has there been a condemnation of the myriad war crimes and terrorism of the US/UK. Don't Nicaraguan women's breasts matter when they are slashed off? Isn't their skin as important as that of some distant people's that you don't care the least about except to use it as rank propaganda in your current campaign against the US boogeyman du jour.

All you commented on was that there are anti-Semitic tropes out there. There is much much much more anti-Muslim sentiment on MLW than there is anti-Semitic sentiment. It just doesn't have the socially redeeming value/bonus points that commenting on anti-Semitic comments does, right?

And that is what GostHack has been accused of doing by Rue. When he has never done any such thing to my knowledge. Why allow this manner of calling a person a racist?

If you were subjected to the constant false barrages of a Rue, you would not ignore it. Why do you tolerate people being labeled anti-Semite but you won't allow people to be called 'racist'. Isn't anti-Semitism racist?

Rue: Your mantra that Israel is an apartheid nation is by inherent nature an attack on Jews for being Israeli. Because you defend the right for Muslim states to be Muslim and impose discriminatory Muslim sharia law on non Muslims states and support terrorist groups who want to violently impose sharia law on non Muslims and destroy Israel you are challenged. That's a dandy piece of propaganda, Rue, right out of that racist right wing website, the Rebel. You label the state of Israel apartheid because, it is Jewish. You don't hold Muslim states to the same standard. That's crap. The world constantly chastizes and penalizes these states but never Israel or the US for their myriad crimes.

It is your responsibility as a moderator to moderate, not take sides. Do you agree that there is rampant anti-Muslimism out there? I haven't seen you write of the myriad Muslim tropes, the myriad tropes denigrating all the countries that the US/UK/... have illegally invaded.

Then address those particular "posters", don't add your own silly trope to give Rue phony ammunition to be used to stifle discussion.

It's SMEAR, Rue, not 'smeer'. The above is more Rue BS. Rue engages in these personal attacks using the trope/propaganda that is used in an attempt to stifle discussion on pertinent issues. Go away with your phony "smeers", Rue. And talk about tropes, Michael. Rue is king at these nutty tropes.

So where is the evidence that supports the USGOCT, eyeball? We're on page 26 and there has never been any evidence provided for that wackiest, nuttiest ever US government conspiracy theory.

Good question, Mr Roberts. "What kind of a dumbshit moron does a person have to be to believe that the United States government and its media whores know better than the laws of physics?" Paul Craig Roberts

More nails in the coffin of the USGOCT. The Science of 9/11 - University of Tennessee presentation

You're much too much a coward for that, capricorn. As is Omni and all the rest of the science deniers.