WestCanMan

Deaths are what we're trying to avoid.

You finally admitted that you need my help to understanding things, thats a start. Just read my posts and learn instead of denying.

Comparable? We have 2,000 more deaths. Almost twice as many - 4,500 vs 2,500. Close enough?

OMG you'll go to any lengths to deny cognitive dissonance from entering your head lol. Just for you Boges "Trudeau did everything perfectly or everyone in Canada would have died right on Feb 1". Now rest your little head.

So they started social distancing when we did, and you think that makes them a bad comp for Canada? 'Splain?

Don't take my word for it. Think about it. Weight the merits of different arguments instead of just blindly assuming that the CBC is right despite the fact that they have never questioned a single thing that Trudeau did re: covid. They're questioning Trump, as if thats even any of their business.

A stitch in time saves nine.

Explain California, with a larger pop than Canada, 10X our pop density, and less covid deaths, despite the fact that the Dems were PROMOTING mass gatherings there as late as Feb 24th? If you can't then you're just admitting that you're an idiot.

In Tokyo, where they implemented a travel ban against Hubeii and gave their citizens masks, there are less than 200 deaths. Tokyo is just a city but the population of Canada resides within their metropolitan area. Trudeau could have been like Japan:

The thing is, stats can be completely misleading if used properly, and CBC used the covid stats for Canada and the US properly in order to give you your opinion. They convinced you that the covid stats for a place like NYC should be similar to the combined covid stats for Yellowknife, Whitehorse, Fort Mac, Sudbury, Timmins, Churchhill, Flin Flon, Fort Assiniboine, Truro, Charlottetown, Biggar, Moosamin, Spuzzum, Grand Forks, Thunder Bay, Petawawa, Moncton, Leduc, Gravenhurst, Swift Current, Lethbridge, Vermillion, Vernon, and Labrador. You'll have to take my word for it, that's not the case.

So Trudeau actually took zero actions by your own estimation, made the wrong recommendations, and he considered people to be experts who were clearly useless. There were other world leaders around him making better decisions. Don't you think he could pick up a phone and call Abe from China [he's actually from Japan, but I don't want to have to explain that to Justin], or Trump, and say "Hey why are you guys doing things that the WHO is recommending against?" instead of calling them racists? If he chose the counsel of morons it still comes back on Trudeau. Dr Tam's failings are Trudeau's failings now. 4,000 Canadians are dead because of it. You're a total idiot if you believe that doing nothing and propagating the worst advice possible, and then giving money to the people who gave you the bad advice was smart dialamah. Timeline of events: 1) The WHO gives out the recipe for spreading a pandemic to the world 2) Trudeau and his "experts" copy and paste it for Canadians 3) other world leaders, who are getting far better advice from their own experts, disregard the WHO's blatantly foolish advice and successfully fight covid 4) Trudeau calls the world leaders who banned Covid-carriers racist 5) Trudeau calls them racist again, because once is never enough 6) after 45 days of calling other world leaders racist on more than one occasion, Trudeau takes his first steps to fight covid 7) Trump cuts off the WHO for giving the world the recipe for spreading the pandemic instead of fighting it. Says that the WHO needs to be investigated 8) Trudeau sticks up for the WHO, gives them millions of dollars for the bad advice that killed 4,000 Canadians. 9) dialamah says that Trudeau did better than Trump 10) WCM correctly identifies Trudeau and dialamah as idiots for the 1,000th time. Book it.

Trump banned travellers "who had been to China within the past 14 days". Not travellers coming in from China. International travellers use passports, the US gov't knows whether or not they've been to China. You've said about 1,000 idiotic things in a row here. I admire your AOC-like ability to disregard the feeling of shame.

The Japanese government gave their citizens masks instead of telling them not to wear masks, and they banned travel from Hubeii Province right away instead of just name-calling against countries who banned travellers from the covid hotspot. https://japantoday.com/category/national/Japan-bars-entry-of-foreign-travelers-from-China's-Hubei-Province I'm putting more stock in the actions that the Japanese took than in their cultural predilections. Japan kicked our asses in the fight against covid because their government treated it like a fight right from day 1. Trudeau killed 4,000 Canadians by not using common sense and following basic scientific/medical knowledge.

For the umpteenth time, there was a ban, you're an idiot. If you compare Canada to Japan, Trudeau killed 4,000 people. We should be at less than 200. If you compare him to Trump, Trudeau killed 1,000 people. We should have less deaths than California.

A "cultural thing" lol. Sounds like they're just smarter than us. I gotta get busy here but I'll watch that in a bit.

You're not at the level of a 12 yr old dialamah, you're below that. You don't question anything yourself, you don't do critical thinking, you just watch MSM as if they're your best bud and they tots got yer 6. Here's a fact: Justin Trudeau didn't implement a single anti-covid action until March 16th. He missed the boat on the travel ban, his gov't just copied and pasted the WHO's recommendation to not wear masks, which was 100% wrong. Other countries who did both those things early have almost no deaths. We have over 4,000. Why haven't you questioned that? Whay hasn't the CBC questioned that? What do you think that Trudeau did better than Trump? This should be easy for you because you're so adamant it's obviously correct. So reply with a convincing answer, using actual facts, or just face the fact that you're a total idiot.

No one has, that's why I posted that. They just post stats about how many people died in a city with 1/3 of Canada's population, as if that compares with spuzzum BC, and they post opinions. Can you show me the thread where you were critical of Trudeau's handling of covid? I'd love to see it. Can you find me an article or a segment on air from CBC or CTV contemplating whether Trudeau did enough to protect us from the virus? While he did nothing for two and a half months? No, you can't. But they mention Trump's criticisms of the WHO like Trump was wrong about them. Find something from CTV or CBC that's critical of Trudeau dialamah, you pathetic liar. He cut travel from China, and China does billions in business with the US every year. He did that when the WHO was still advising against it. That's pretty serious. He had the task force, with actual useful people on it, set up while Trudeau was still out of the country. Trudeau never even bothered to get anyone useful working on covid. He let the same dummies continue do nothing while he hid in his basement. And this late in the game, with this much evidence in, Trudeau is still acting like the WHO just nailed it. He even gave them money when Trump rightfully cut them off. Trudeau didn't just lack foresight, his hindsight is astonishingly bad as well. He's completely useless on his very best day. OMG you talk about my adoration of Trump, while you blindly refer to the fact that "Trudeau must have done some good things to fight covid" lol. That's just plain stupid. This was on Yahoo News today, it's CBC's most recent garbage about why Canada's per capita deaths are 1/2 of what America's are: Yeah there's no need to qualify or quantify that, just belch it out and the idiots will gobble it out and spew it far and wide. You've been sucked in dialamah. You never had a chance.

You won't be surprised to find out that I like DoFo better than True-dodo lol.

I showed how much worse Canada did than other locations who only enacted the travel ban back in January and we did significantly worse. Aus and Caifornia Everyone knows that most asian countries completely blew us out of the water re: covid. I shouldn't have to explain that to you. Tokyo and the surrounding metropolitan areas have Canada's population, 38M, and only 155 covid deaths. Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber did nothing until mid-March. If they at least enacted some positive policies that would be one thing, but they did NOTHING. Doing nothing to stop a pandemic is really bad eyeball. You're acting like we did ok here and that's just idiotic when we're on page 47 of this thread, and you've posted on almost every page. We have 30x as many covid deaths in our country as Tokyo has, and their population density is probably 30,000x what our country's is. You're so far out in left field that you have to cross the foul line to get back in the game.

And that has been identified as a huge concern. If you want to talk about stupidity regarding North-American manufacturing, look no further than our own Green Party. E May is convinced that Canada's road to economic growth will come via manufacturing green energy solutions lol. I bet that she even tweets about it with her made-in-China phone.

I think that buying "made in America" vs "made in China" is going to balance that out. The globalist supply chain is going to be hard hit by the reality of how dangerous America's dependence on China really is. The US can't even supply their own penicillin now without China right now. If the US-China trade war heats up, which it undoubtedly will, it could get nasty, and dangerous. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/u-s-officials-worried-about-chinese-control-american-drug-supply-n1052376 Just like they popped up this Honeywell mask factory, the US will be getting heavily into a lot of other strategic manufacturing as well over the coming months.

On CNN they love to point out that Trump said that opening back up would undoubtedly cost some lives, without mentioning that he also said that keeping the country closed-down would cost even more lives.

Biden is an amateur basement-squatter, he just reminded us how crazy people get when they're cooped-up. Trudeau was an underground authoritarian for over a month. He was like Hitler running the show from his bunker in Berlin.

The US federal government did far better than the Canadian gov't did. Like I said, we are naturally social-distanced to a great extent by our geography. In the US there were extremely bad decisions made at the state and local levels which will eventually have to be sorted out. It seems as though old-age care facilities were being forced to take in covid patients in NY state. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-spreads-new-york-nursing-home-forced-take-recovering-patients-n1191811 (The same types of things happened in Mtl.) If that's true, and if there were already covid-only hospitals set up at the time that had room for more patients, there will be hell to pay. It's always tough to say what's what with covid though, because some people have it for a long time before they get symptoms, or they never get them at all. There could have been covid carriers in all those care homes for a long time which nobody even suspected. Would you care to cite some rural US stats? I'm not going to go looking for them to suit you.

So fitting that that weasel was having an affair with an FBI lawyer. That pretty much sums up the integrity of that bag of snakes right there.