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Did you even bother to just google: "Case Infected Rate"? I guess not. Dude, what I wrote was so easy that you should have been able to figure it out yourself, but the fact that you can't understand it yet is bizarre. 1) When people are super sick, they go see a Dr. That's especially true if they're sick enough that they're going to die. Those people become "cases" in the "Case Infected Rate". 2) When people just get a little bit sick, or they get infected but remain asymptomatic, they generally don't go to see a Dr. Those people don't get included in the "Case Infected Rate" because medical professionals don't know that they were sick, but they had covid too. Those 2 things should be really easy for you to understand, right? Have you never gone to work when you were sick? Have you never been sick enough to take a day off work, but not sick enough to go to the Dr? Did you ever go to the Dr to see if you had the flu when you had no symptoms? Probably not. FYI, everyone who falls into one of those categories is excluded from case infected rate, but obviously they'd be included in a calculation to see whether or not you'd survive if you contracted the virus. Did you ever get so sick that you thought you might die, but didn't go see a Dr? I doubt it. This isn't something that you have to understand, but it will save you from public humiliation if you just ignore the topic.
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and then... Leftist logic is laughable. Sooooooo.... no vaccine mandate, and no forcing people to take vaccines, but unvaccinated people can't be around other people........ That's some really idiotic shit there Argus. If unvaxxed people can't be in society anymore, how is that any different from, say, forcing people to get the vaccine? ? If you got the vaccine, and you're so confident that the vaccine works, then why don't you just run around licking doorknobs and hugging rioters/looters? You're safe, right? Can you acknowledge that people got very sick, and even died, from taking the vaccine? Is it impossible for you to engage in an honest conversation? Can you acknowledge that some of the vaccines use technology that has never been approved by the FDA, and no one knows the long-term effects of them, and some of the vaccines apparently don't work, like the ones that Trudeau tried to order initially? Some people don't want to take a chance at dying, just to be used as lab rats and for a chance at improving their chance of survival from 99.98% to 99.99%. That's understandable. Honestly, the best reason for taking the jab is if you're a conspiracy theorist, and you feel like the next commie plot to eliminate dissidents revolves around vaccinating the sheep and then killing the people who don't blindly gobble up propaganda. We put up with your idiotic lockdowns (and just trust me if you don't understand me, covid lockdowns and protocols were handled with the utmost stupidity), now that you have your precious vaxx you need to simmer down and carry on.
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Leftists don't need science and math because they don't think for themselves. If they did then they wouldn't be leftists. In all honesty, the only way that leftist talking points make sense is if you don't think about them. "Voter ID IS RACIST!" "WALLS ARE RACIST!" "AN ACCUSATION BY A VICTIM WHO CAN'T NAME A YEAR OR A LOCATION AND WHO HAS NO WITNESSES AND HAS NEVER EVEN TALKED ABOUT HER VICTIMHOOD FROM 3 DECADES AGO WITH FRIENDS, FAMILY OR POLICE NEEDS TO BE BELIEVED, EVEN IF SHE'S CAUGHT LYING DURING HER TESTIMONY!" "Covid spreads like wildfire in public parks and on beaches, but not during rioting or looting." "Leftist politicians are so right to call for the defunding of police, and it makes sense for them to hire a bunch of those same police to protect them personally." "It made sense for Cuomo to force C19-infected seniors back into their care homes, and to forbid anyone to test them for covid at that time, and the fact that he forced his staff to fudge the care home death tolls to make it look like the massive death rate there was lower than it actually was is no big deal either. Cuomo is still a C19 hero, and his Emmy for talking awesomely while those snow-cones were dying in their C19 inducement camps was well-deserved. Cuomo's ass-grabbing, on the other hand, is an extremely serious issue, and if he did any of that then he has to resign."
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From your extremely limited understanding, sure, but that has nothing to do with reality. FYI the case fatality rate is always going to be higher than the mortality rate, because everyone who's sick enough to die goes to see a Dr but no one who is asymptomatic goes to the Dr and people who only get mildly ill don't usually go either. That's actual science, not just some Trudeau/CNN/CBC bullshit. Go look up case fatality rates if you want.
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If you think that the survivability rate for covid is less than what I mentioned then why don't you try to find some stats that support your seemingly ludicrous claim? As it stands, I made a claim which is extremely well backed up by the data I posted, which includes all the known cases on the planet (the largest sample size possible) and your retort was basically just whining without a shred of valuable info. Thanks for comin' out.
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You just lied to accuse me of lying, GJ c2015. Wrong. You're talking about case mortality rate, but there are many many more people who got infected but either didn't know it or didn't go to their doctor. That mortality rate is almost totally due to the high number of people who were extremely old with one or more co-morbidities. The chance of a healthy person dying from covid is probably quite a bit lower than the .02% chance that I mentioned.
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If you wrote a fictional novel about a governor who forced people that were infected with a pandemic (that was known to be lethal among seniors) into care homes, forced his minions to fudge the death statistics in his state to cover his tracks, received an Emmy for lying about his 'successful' fight against said pandemic, and then didn't have to resign or give back his Emmy after he was busted for all that murder and dishonesty, people would throw it in the garbage, unable to suspend their sense of disbelief for long enough to read another word. But honestly, that's how stupid Demmie sycophants are. If Trump forced sick people INTO care homes and forbade testing on them to see if they were still carrying the virus, the legions of leftards would instantly realize that it was nothing short of biological warfare/murder, but when they love the guy who's doing the killing, it's just an inconvenient truth that can be shuffled off to the side. Believe it or not, NYers are so stupid that they're more concerned about a bit of ass-grabbing. And people wonder how Hitler and Chairman Mao got away with it.
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Covid has already been used as a reason for more censorship on social media. Honest to god, if Trudeau's evil minions could find a single inaccuracy in any of my posts they'd no doubt try to get me banned from this site. Controlling the narrative was Trudeau's 1st priority when he was elected, the first thing he did was shower the CBC with taxpayer dollars. The he gave 'select media outlets' another $600M, and what kind of perks do the sycophant media get when they're being jetted across the country to fawn on his election campaign? Of course we don't really know. Now that he has censorship in his back pocket, he's on to vaccine passports, forced vaccinations, quarantines and he's trying to extend the nanny state. Justin Trudeau, with a minority gov't in 2021, wields far more power over Canadians than Harper ever did, and Harper was elected to 3 majority gov'ts, with large majorities.
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The mortality rate is far less than 2%, and that number includes people over 75 with 1 or more co-morbidities. Authoritarians and socialists alike want a nanny state. Everyone at their mercy. That's what covid, along with the help of the CBC and CTV, delivered to Trudeau - a state where a large minority of the people exist on gov't handouts, and where the state's ability to deal with dissidents is massively increased, both by censoring them and [in the near future] locking them up in high-mortality-rate quarantines. You've known for a long time that Trudeau does not like to tolerate dissenting opinions, and every day he gains a bit more control over what we're allowed to say, or do, even at our own cellular levels. He is gaining control like no other PM has ever had before.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Only 2% of the confirmed cases ended up with a fatal result. 1) that number doesn't include many other people who were infected and didn't go to see a Dr 2) that number includes millions of people who were infected but remained asymptomatic. Considering #'s 1 & 2, the number of infected people could be in the billions. No one knows, because so many people remain asymptomatic. 3) that number includes people who were already dying, whose deaths were just bumped up a few days by covid 4) that number includes people who only died because people like Andrew Cuomo forced covid into care homes 5) The vast majority of those deaths ocurred among people who were extremely elderly AND had co-morbidities. You have no choice but to admit that at the low end, covid has a 98% survivability rate. What do you think the survivability rate of covid would be for people who aren't over 75 with one or more co-morbidities Aristedes? ? I just gotta know, for shits and giggles. So, are you among those who are willing to see asymptomatic people locked up in quarantine centers where the dumbest among us expect them to die?
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How do you feel about living in a country where you can be forced to take a test to see if you're infected with a virus that has a 99.98% survivability rate, even though you've got no symptoms, and then when you're "found to be positive" you can be put into a quarantine where the majority of the population expects you to die from said virus [even though it has the 99.98% survivability rate...]? Chairman Mao is rolling over in his grave right now saying: "OMG WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?"
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? Clearly you have no idea how this whole mandatory covid vaccination story is going to play out. 3/4 of the people who were infected by the Delta variant in Massachusetts were fully vaxxed. How long 'til they need to be re-vaxxed? In the face of a virus with a 99.98% survivability rate you're knuckling under to total government control. "Protect us Justin! Save us CBC! We trust you!"
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And just like that, when faced with a virus that has a 99.98% survival rate, the people who said that there would never be mandatory quarantines or vaccination passports admitted that they had succumbed to the constant messaging [aka propaganda] of the state broadcasters, and they demanded that their fellow citizens have their rights stripped away from them.
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The Talon d'achille of the Democratic Party
WestCanMan replied to August1991's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Young Democrats love libertarians like Che Guevera and Raz Simone, and they're staunch defenders of libertarian groups like MS-13. Great times. -
It goes further back than numbers. Why are the spokespeople for covid the same ones who funded gain of function research? Why does the media let Fauci squirm out of whether or not he ok'd funding for that? Why did the Dems and Libs and the MSM lie about almost everything covid-related? How is it possible that the people who did everything wrong are still the ones who get to do all the talking? Leftists governments exist because a lot of people want to be taken care of by the government. Covid made the gov't our daddy. It's a leftist dream come true. If you're bleeding out from a gunshot wound to the head and then you sneeze right before you die, did you die because some pepper got in your nose? No. In the end I don't think that it was covid that pushed a lot of those 600K people 99 yeards down the field, it was just present at the one yard line, or maybe not even then. Maybe they just had the normal seasonal flu when they died (weird that no one got that in 2020 - how is that a thing? Millions of people a year got the seasonal flu for the past century, then in 2020, the flu took a whole year off and infected only 10,000 people...), or maybe they were just coughing because they were so unhealthy at that point. Then their sleazy Dr just wrote down covid at the time of death to suit their political agenda. There were a lot of Dr Fords out there who lie and do any sleazy thing that they could to bring down Trump, and we know that's true because Dr Ford still has the full respect of almost every liberal in North America. If only 1/3 of the people who died of the things I mentioned got shuffled into the covid category, that's almost 600,000 people. Think about it - roughly half of all the Drs in the US would be Dem voters. Almost every one of them is smart enough to know that a rape accusation without a year, a location, a single witness or even a person who heard her talk about it in the past 30+ years is not a credible accusation at all. They also know that she lied about certain aspects of her debacle. Yet she still has their full support. How hard would it be for a scumbag who still believes Dr Ford to just put an X in the right box to help make Trump look bad? In the end it's just a medical opinion anyways. If people in the medical profession can get away with 250,000-440,000 "medical mistakes causing death" then for sure they can get away with checking the wrong box a few times in one year.
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OMG, she's fluent in Bidenese. Stupid people love that crap. She's a shoo-in. I get that a couple of her brain farts are probably typos [a lot of people actually pronounce asking "aksing" so that may be her honest attempt at the word], but she should be able to spell veterinarian and licensed in her sleep seeing as she's a "licensed veterinarian" (the s/c keys and the i/e keys aren't close to each other on the keyboard, so those are spelling mistakes, not typos). Her grammar is also horrible. "My hospital, like most nationwide, has PTs on the covid floor(s) helping patients recover" is the proper English version of what she was trying to say. She's also a "tractor driver" lol. WTF is that, exactly? Are there people who work on farms who just drive tractors? She's a 'tractor driver' just like Joe Biden used to be a trucker.
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The twit's tweet says "I work on the covid floor of my hospital." How is that a thing then, if she's not lying? IE, if there's a whole floor of the hospital dedicated to covid, then why is the physical therapist working there? Is C19 pilates a thing? Is there a C19 spin class? Why do you think there's a physical therapist working on the covid floor Argus? Coincidentally, I'm a plumber working in the carpentry division in the radioactive waste wing of my local Nuclear Power plant.
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Correction - any sane person who's at risk from covid, and no longer plans to have children, would take the vaccine (which still isn't approved by the FDA yet). I wouldn't get anyone, especially female, to get an MRNA injection or whatever it is if they still plan to have kids. Why don't they test people to see if they already have covid before they juice them up? Why don't they test to see if they've already had covid before they just vaxx them? There's no science behind just juicing everybody. It just fits the big pharma narrative of "Ignore cheaper solutions! Covid kills everyone! Get the jab!" It's not tiny, especially when people who had zero chance of dying from covid are dying from the shot. Would you buy a gadget that has a .0005% chance of killing you to save you from falling into the crack of your couch? The vast majority of people who died from covid were already dying, or near death. It has a near-zero mortality rate in children, unlike the seasonal flu, and deaths among healthy adults are near zero as well. If you don't try to go to the gym and do a heavy workout while you have covid, there's no evidence that it's a threat. Do you think you have some evidence that covid kills healthy people? Even the anecdotes that come out are of morbidly obese or immunocompromised people.
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Nope. That was not false. STOP THE LIES AND FALSE RUMOURS CITIZEN. YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE BY YOUR MISINFORMATION. See below: FYI people are dying just from taking the vaccination. Not just the people who were in danger from covid either, but healthy people who would never have died from covid. At Canada post at the Vcr Int'l airport they have about 600 employees and one of them just died 3 days after getting the second shot. My best friend here worked around him and knew him quite well. He was in his 50s but still quite happy and healthy. The media in Vcr isn't blaming the vaccine, and talking about how "he shoulda or coulda or shouldn'ta", the media doesn't even talk about healthy people dying from the vaccine. But for some strange reason, every person under 60 who dies from covid is an important anecdote for the masses. As long as the MSM and leftist politicians are busy engaging in disinformation I'm busy ignoring everything that they say. That's from: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/#seriousNonSerious As usual, all covid-related information has to be presented with a political outcome in mind, so never expect a site like this to come out and blame the vaxx, but the '66' and the '57' there are kind of strange. How can they not know? What about the 33? Seeing as there's not even 1 single case there where they can safely say that the vaxx was even likely to be the cause of death, why won't they say that "no one is known to have died from their vaccinations yet"? That's exactly what their stats there say, so why don't they just come out and say it? Why don't they talk about the relative health of the people who died? Anyone who sneezed or coughed who died in 2020 "died of covid", so why don't people who die after the jab get instantly thrown into the "vaxx deaths" category? Don't think using the CBC as your rod and your shield Citizen, actually think for yourself, and tell me why you think that this disinformation keeps coming from the MSM and the gov't?
