WestCanMan

LOL, that's just silly. Conforming to good health practices doesn't include: 1) taking a jab that doesn't work (2,500 "fully-protected" Canadians died of covid, and this is the first flu season since anyone has been fully vaxed) 2) taking a jab that has harmful side effects 3) taking a jab to protect you from a virus that won't likely harm you, and in the case of kids, almost definitely won't harm them 4) forcing other people to take a jab that won't get us to herd immunity.

The leftists who post here hold themselves to the same ultra-low standards. @Michael Hardner and @eyeball will make serious defamatory statements about groups of people and then slither around avoiding accountability forever. Right now they're defending the slander that racist flags are/were present at the convoy "but no one at CTV, CBC or Global had any cameras or smart phones to capture it" apparently.

Stop talking about other people when your credibility and reputation are at stake, and no one else's is. You're at the heart of this issue: you're the one who was originally making the claim that racist flags are flying at the rally. You're the last person on earth who's in position to point their finger at anyone else on this forum. Do you understand that serious claims need to clear a very high standard of proof? If you don't have real proof that racist symbols are/were flying at the rally then YOU ARE A SLANDERER, A USEFUL IDIOT, AND A LIAR. Full stop. I'm not asking again. If you don't apologize or provide proof, then I'm just going to brand you as those things and reference this in every other thread that you post in.

Stop crying eyeball. Stop making snotty accusations. I met the burden of proof, regardless of whether I needed to or not. You're just deflecting again in the most weaselly way imaginable. Now prove to me that you, @Michael Hardner, CTV, CBC and Global have sufficient reason to claim that there are swastikas and other racist symbols flying around at the freedom convoy. This should be really easy for you based on 1) the seriousness of the allegations and 2) the number of time that they've been made by MSM and regurgitated by their useful idiots. Are you nothing more than a useful idiot, or do you have proof of the claims that you're backing?

1) Just because YOU reject a well-known, truthful claim doesn't make it a logical fallacy. Literally everyone here knows that CNN supported the 12014-2016 riots and the 2020 riots and that they called the Jan 6th riot an insurrection. EVERYONE. 2) I provided you with proof that CNN was supporting the riots anyways because you just whine about it to deflect from the fact that you've been exposed as a fraud. Remember the "Fiery but mostly peaceful protests", when they said: "There are a bunch of fires like this...." in the mostly peaceful protests? CNN's producers allowed the chyron to support the reporter's false narrative/disinformation. CNN lied and misrepresented the riots to support the people engaging in that activity. Look at how they characterized the Jan 6th riot, they could have easily said the same things about the attack on the whitehouse or the CHAZ occupation. Instead they ignored all of the assaults against secret service members at the WH and complained about Trump holding a bible the next day, then they called CHAZ a Summer of love" (where the small-in-number but aggressive CHAZI Gestapo killed a black kid in the first 3 weeks). 3) You're defending the "Freedom Convoy is waving swastikas and racist symbols" narrative and you've still never provided proof. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. The whiny victim routine is pathetic. You dug your own hole and you can't lie your way out of it.

They have hundreds of dirty tricks to misinform or push a false narrative, but explaining it to leftists is like de-programming cultists: they refuse to take in any information that runs contrary to their dogma. They'll lie, spit, slander, cancel, dodge, accuse, deflect and go apoplectic like Reagan from the exorcist when the priest came in.

I supplied total proof fo what I said. You're still lacking.

Us? Trudeau is the one who tried to link not vaxing with racism. How much more extreme (idiotic) can you get than that? Trudeau and the MSM are the ones who saying that the whole Freedom Convoy is a bunch of white supremacists and insurgents, they're just dancing around and BBQing smokies. Call the Guiness Book folks, we have surely set a record for the biggest group of white supremacist indo-Canadians, FN people and blacks ever. Trudeau is the anti-science one who's ignoring covid target demographics, ignoring acquired immunity, forcing people who are at 0% danger of dying from covid to take the vaccine even though it has dangerous side effects, forcing people out of the economy if they don't vax, and then complaining when our trade with the US is down by 25%. People are out 100% of their salaries, and not just for 6 days. For them it's already been a long time and it's indefinite, and Trudeau is crying about 25%? Now the truckers have to be fined $100K and sent to jail for a year? For peaceful protests? You don't think that's extreme? ?

It's all part of the plan to politicize the pandemic. Trudeau and Biden can't really claim victory over covid if it's just a matter of omicron being weak AF. The vaxes have to be our saviour or Biden and Trudeau aren't our saviours. In fact, they'll just be remembered as undemocratic and in Trudeau's case, bigoted. Down in the States they're really trying to drive the point home that "Biden's successful distribution plan was the actual key to success, Trump's legacy was a distribution network that was failing Americans dismally" ?. Biden has nightmares about the words "Operation Warp Speed". TBH, Warp Speed was about more than just vaxes, it was also about therapeutics and testing kits. Biden and Trudeau haven't pimped therapeutics at all, that's why therapeutics have to be ignored and relegated to the shelf. Anyways, now they want to claim that getting our country to 99% vaccinated was the key to freedom, and they'll force it into every last person that they can before they give up.

Even Bill Maker thinks that "Trudeau sounds like Hitler", and he thought that "Trudeau was a cool guy" before this. I'm surprised to find out that the quote was from September and I just found out about it this week. If Trump said something like that about immigrants then the original, accurate form of it would have been headline news in Canada 24/7. CNN, CTV and Goebbels wouldn't even have to lie about it - they could give their liars and spin doctors a month off, and that's about 3/4 of their staff. I'm actually fuming about that quote and I can't stop thinking about it. Our politics in Canada are positively hateful now, and these maggots have absolutely nothing to back their hideous slander. I've tried to get @eyeball and @Michael Hardner to back up their slander for a while now and I just hear crickets. Some people have no pride. I don't get it.

If covid was more like ebola, and the jabs were functioning like actual vaccines, I could see the point of mandates, but if that was the case there'd be no need to force people to vaccinate. People would be fighting to get them.

You're defending a serious claim that remains unsubstantiated. That's as good as a lie. I don't even know why you still post here. I'd be way too ashamed if I was you.

It certainly ignores the fact that we are going to be royally screwed if there are any common, meaningful long-term side effects of the jab. If it just increases the risk of stroke or heart attack by 20%, or causes a specific type of cancer, if it affects fertility rates among men or women, if it causes miscarriages or birth defects.... Oh look, the hospitals are overwhelmed! The medicare system can't afford it! And antibody dependent enhancement is a real thing. If the antibodies created by the jab make some other disease like Dengue, malaria, zeka or something else worse we could also screwed. Or China can manufacture a virus that is made worse by the antibodies created by the jabs. I don't think that getting everyone jabbed is the way to go. They say that the whole Royal family never travels together on a single airplane. Not because they're worried about more inbreeding, but because they can't have them all go down at once. It seems like if everyone gets the jab, our whole country is on one gigantic airplane.

Still waiting on some proof that the USA Today just fabricated lies against Margaret Sanger....

Tulsi Gabbard, by far the smartest and most useful Democrat politician since JFK, was on Tucker Carlson's show yesterday and made one of those points where you say to yourself "Why didn't I think of that?" She said that one of the main reasons why the Russia/Ukraine conflict is getting so much attention is because the military industrial complex needs the drama to justify [hate that word] more military spending, and they're like the lobbyist on steroids. She didn't mention this part, but before Congress approves new military hardware acquisitions, the Congressmen can randomly buy shares in the companies that are slated to benefit the most, Pelosi-style. I get that the US needs to show some grit so that Russia doesn't go too far, and I even feel like the US needs to ramp up production because China is going silverback right now, but I agree that the military industrial complex's boner is pressed against Biden's back right now.

Biden polished Putin's pipeline from Russia to Germany. It was blocked by the previous administration. This isn't a small news item that would easily be missed by people who just see the occasional headline. Again, it's common knowledge. TBH, when Trump left office Merkel and Putin probably just told the Biden to do as he was told, but he made a show of being part of the green-lighting process.

If you ever caught me lying I'd never hear the end of it. I catch you lying, or dodging questions because you can't defend your lies, several times a day. For example, you still haven't backed the serious accusation which you've been defending, that there were swastikas and other racist symbols at the Freedom Convoy. Tell me eyeball, can you provide some proof that there were swastikas and other racist symbols flying at the Freedom Convoy, would you like to admit that it seems like there weren't, or are you admitting that you're a liar?

Great post. I for one feel like the question of whether or not the mandates and passports are justified begins and ends with 4 questions, but I added the 5th because the vax-Nazis have moved their goalposts back as far as they possibly can and they really need one in there that they can lean on: 1) Do they stop the spread? [no] 2) Do they stop people from dying? [no] 3) Are there any known, serious side effects? [yes] 4) Do we have any clue whether or not there will be any long-term side effects? [no] 5) Will our hospitals be overwhelmed by the unvaxed? [no] I like the new wrinkle that you added there: "Are they proportional to the problem?" That's a great standard that applied to most reactionary measures. TBH if the vaccines were (mysteriously) ready when covid first came out, and it was still said to be a "97-HEADED MONSTER THAT KILLS EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH!", I might have been convinced that they were proportional to the problem. Now that we know that the vast majority of the population is at an extremely low risk of death, and we have the vaccines "that work" for the at-risk groups, it's way out of proportion to the problem. The vax-Nazis will fight tooth and nail for #5 because it's all they've got: "It keeps our hospitals from overflowing! This is a pandemic of the unjabbed!", so I'll speak to that.... Everyone is getting omicron whether they're jabbed, dbl jabbed, dbl jabbed & boosted, or unvaxxed. Over 1,500 fully-protected Canadians have died of covid since mid-December, so the "pandemic of the unvaxed" claim is a lie now. There's no justification [eww] left for mandates and passports, at least not domestically, or for people like truckers who are socially distanced when they travel. Side note: I really loathe the word 'justification'. It seems like it's always associated with the worst evils in the history of the human race. People like Hitler, Chairman Mao, terrorist leaders and psychopaths 'justify' things.

You don't have to do anything eyeball. It's not a free country anymore but I for one still respect people's basic freedoms. You can lie, snivel, dodge and make baseless accusations all you want here and that's been proven ad nauseam, but if you want to join in adult dialogue you just have to 1) know what's going on in the world and 2) be honest. Regardless of whether or not you knew that CNN supported riots, everyone else here did. Regardless of whether or not I was bound by the conventions of polite discourse to prove to you that CNN supported riots, I did that anyways, just because I hold myself to a higher standard than the bare minimum. Meanwhile, here you are, still defending serious & baseless accusations after 20+ posts, so they're understood to be lies now. I'd hate to be in your position, having to lie and dodge questions constantly just to get my two worthless bits in.

Collins dictionary says this: c. He was speaking directly to soldiers, this is the meanig according to Collins online dictionary. I wish that he wouldn't have said it for a couple od reasons 1) some soldiers might think of it in military terms, which isn't good. If they say 'til Valahalla it's gonna be a shitshow and don't try to reason with them at that point. 2) leftists are desperate to paint this Freedom Convoy as an insurgence, and they're well aware of the connotations of terms when it suits their fancy. That's exactly why the people at CNN and posters here, like BeaverFever, tried to put the words "march on Washington" into Trump's mouth. If there's any resistance at all, 'hold the line' will be the new buzzword for the next year and it will haunt the Freedom Convoy forever. I just wish he would have appended that with, 'until you're arrested', or 'until the police come with an order to ___________', IE some bullshit that sounds official and means that they can use force to remove you. He definitely should have specified exactly what he meant by 'hold the line'. It's very meaningful, powerful terminology. If you told Dougie93 to hold the line he'd probably be there until there was just a puddle of goo.

I get that he asked for peace a couple of times, and I absolutely hope that every single Freedom Convoy member just peacefully lets themselves be arrested so that they don't get baited into the shitshow that Trudeau and his propagandists so desperately need, but he shouldn't have said "hold the line". I get that he wanted it to sound cool, maybe he just said it because he felt like this was his one chance to say it, but it's an order that has a connotation that every soldier knows very well, and it doesn't inspire peace. It's akin to "no retreat, no surrender". Not just "show up, stand peacefully until the police arrest you". It definitely implies "resistance", at the very least, to the vast majority of ex-military.

I just found a cause that Trudeau can employ his vile mouth for. If he wants to characterize protestors as violent racists and scum, he can just go on an accurate rant about the BLM protesters instead of lying about the freedom convoy. I'll even write the wee Nazi's speech for him, using his classic form, character and tone to a tee: “We all know who BLM's supporters are, and we will do our very best to try to convince them to be better citizens. However, there is still a part of their population (that) is fiercely against it. They don’t believe in lawful conduct or the nuclear family, and are very often arrested for things like strangling and suffocating their wives, assaulting & slicing their own brothers with knives, assaulting random civilians, attacking the whitehouse, burning churches, burning businesses, burning down low-income housing developments, looting, killing police officers, beating and partially scalping mentally handicapped teens, and raping young children. It’s a lot of people, and not all DAs are Dems so they can't all just be let out of jail instantly, and Kamala Harris can't bail them all out herself. It's a very high percentage of their group, and they take up a lot of space. This leads us, as a leader and as a country, to make a choice: Do we tolerate these people? Well, I sure do. BLM is an excellent example of a protest group that I support." Can someone send this to Trudeau for me please? I know that he'll really enjoy saying it.

We both know that I'm not the one who needs to substantiate a positive claim, I cleared that hurdle easily. Everyone else in the world already knew that CNN backed the riots, but to be the bigger person I proved it to you anyways with CNN's "Fiery but mostly peaceful protests" video lol. "There were several other fires here but..... ? Ya know what happened next? Rittenhouse proved that you can't swing a dead cat at a BLM riot without hitting a bunch of convicted felons. All 3 of them. Rosenbaum and Huber being the worst: Rosenbaum was taken in by a lady whose two sons he promptly raped (10 years jailtime), and huber was found guilty of a felony for strangulation and suffocation, domestic abuse. According to Ayana Pressley the guys who were shot "had assembled to affirm the value, dignity and worth of black lives"lol. What a f'n moron. You walked right into that one ? Never change eyeball. Anyways, you're the one who's backing Trudeau and the MSM's accusation that there were swastikas and confederate flags at the Freedom Convoy. What could be easier than copying and pasting their treasure trove of proof of their serious claims? They must have pages and pages of photos and videos. Post the photos. Post the videos. It's put up or shut up time.

His spirit lives on in our MSM.

His spirit lives on in ur MSM.