WestCanMan

You claimed that xenophobia, bigotry and racism were rampant in this thread, and I'm assuming that you weren't referring yourself in any way.

I observed you claiming the moral high ground as your own for the reasoning behind your choices on this topic. Are you denying that you feel like the people who don't share your opinion are xenophobic, racist, afraid, etc? While you remain unafraid and optimistic?

I'm not wrong about 2,000 years of history, and that's the crux of this whole topic.

No, I alluded to the fact that you act superior to others because of how you claim you would handle the situations that were being referred to.

I thought that you were questioning whether or not you would face hostlity the first time I read your reply, I was wrong for the first time in my life again.

Your self-proclaimed greatness. It's not the same thing as actual greatness or I'd have a (lot of things I don't have).

Yes hostility. Are you kidding? Try being a shia in a sunni-dominated country. Try being a sunni in a shia-dominated area. Try being a kurd, a christian, an atheist or an anything else in any country with a large muslim minority. There's 2,000 years worth of evidence of the fact that you will face open hostility, and that the "police" there will be responsible for maintaining that level of discrimination against you.

You are making a choice, and informing us all of your greatness for making that choice, but what you don't seem to realize is that other Canadians will also be put into the same situations that you are so blissfully unaware/unafraid of.

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

OK, so there's a 1/10,000 chance that your golden retriever will do something to protect your family dialamah. Awesome. I'll grant you one thing though, that's far better than the chances of Islam suddenly becoming a shining light for peace and understanding. Only you and JT are holding your breath waiting for that to happen.

I think it's bad policy for us to let our allies bear the expense of having pilots and support crews stationed over there (overseas + combat pay bonuses for all of them), paying for the fuel for their planes, risking the lives of their pilots and expensive fighter planes, the cost of their missiles and other ordinance they use... It all adds up. I also wonder about the strategy of training soldiers over there. Hasn't it backfired every time western nations have trained middle-eastern groups how to fight? Sooner or later they end up being our enemies. The NDP lol. I would have crapped my pants of Mulcair was elected PM. All I have ever seen that guy do is complain. I swear he would have started a war against the US.

I don't consider J Trudeau transparent, he's a nieve dimwit spewing PC sentiment and pontificating to the whole planet about how nice everything would be if we all just loved everyone regardless of everything they do and everything they have done. If he was a dog he would be a golden retriever. They're nice and all but you don't want one guarding your house.

I would have been more impressed if the thread title read Transparency isn't for Liberals, but Liberal supporters can't seem to discuss much these days without insinuating a racial, cultural, or ideological conservative conspiracy...stands to reason the policies of party they support should reflect the viewpoint from the inside of their own colons. Or does the base reflect the party? Kind of a chicken and egg thing I guess.

They are ground troops waldo, members of the infantry with their feet on the ground in a war zone. Whether they are killing Isil members or teaching other people how to kill Isil members do you think it makes a difference to Isil? I'm biting my tongue when I tell you quite simply that the kind of aid that the fighter planes supplied to our members is always required when it is in any way beneficial. That's an incredibly basic concept and if you need any more explanation than that then I will just leave you wondering. What happens in the theatre of war is based on randomness, chances, preparation, planning, equipment, execution, etc. If the fighter planes didn't attack the Isil members who were attacking our soldiers do you think that there's a better chance that we would be talking about dead Canadians right now Waldo? Easy question.

The motive is all-important here Hudson. War between two countries over a long-standing land-claim or what have you is limited in scope to some earthbound assets, or a specific disagreement between the two nations. Isis's war is against everyone on the face of the earth that doesn't abide by their interpretation of the koran. Is there a difference between Trudeau fighting Isil and Trudeau going across the country killing everyone who voted for the conservatives? If your answer is yes then you understand exactly what I am talking about.

I think that your post is trying too hard to find negativity with this issue. The conservatives implemented the program because in some areas big wigs were getting hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and the band members were living in poverty. In **Trudeau's quest to be the most politically correct emperor to ever walk the face of the earth he probably decided to make the representation that the sanctions were put in place because the PC's are racist bastards.

Justin Trudeau is still determined to withdraw our fighter planes from the fight against Isil despite the fact that they were required to protect our ground troops yesterday. How long is it going to be before his stupidity costs the lives of Canadians?

I agree with everything you said in your two recent posts, I have been against our unflinching support of Israel since I became an adult. The toothpaste is out of the tube though. We are dealing with today's problems. But for all I know, maybe the Israelis were right after all. IMO it all comes down to "what path was the Muslim world on before 1949?" It's tough to say because we weren't there so we don't really know, and even if we were there, would we know? We live in the information age and 99.999% of the people still don't agree on what's happening right now. If we had our feet on the ground in Palestine in 1935 we would only know what was going on in our own neighbourhood. In today's news we get such a one-sided view of what's happening in the middle east that it's silly. What's our most educated guess? The one thing that history is clear on is that when Muslims have power, other people die in droves. If the Shia or the sunnis or Muslims in general had the power of the US arsenal would we all be screwed? The thing to be careful of when making mass-generalizations about what a country with a lot of muslims in it would look like, is judging their society based on the small sample size, of the ones we know over here. I've always believed that the true measure of character is not how people handle adversity, or how nice they are when they are outnumbered, it's how they handle power. Like I said before, when Muslims have power they seem to use it with maximum brutality.

Agreed. Just because Canada is ony 150 years old doesn't mean that we need to forget about everything before that. The Muslims are still using the same Koran they've always used. They don't have a new testament, and the topic of jihad still excites a certain % of the population.

She looks like she knows what she talking about on the topic of climate change. Every other time I've seen her tho she looked like a bumbling fool.

It's a different kind of killing Hudson, when it's christians killing christians. The killing from the Muslims that we are targeting is "Muslims killing every other group or culture they come in contact with specifically because they aren't Muslims." Where you find evidence of Christians all over the world going around and killing men, women and children just because they aren't christian you have found a good comparison.

lol. I have no idea what it's at. Even 2 is b-s so why not 140? I even find the idea of living for eternity a bit awkward. What could actually be entertaining enough to do over and over again for 10,000 years? When I think about all the things I loved as a kid I have no desire to do most of them anymore even tho I still could fi I wanted. Water-skiing and skiing for example. Just such a waste of time now.

If you look at "religions" from 20,000 feet above they are all just selling snake oil for the soul in exchange for power and wealth. The 1950's version of Christianity in North America went something like "Your granny just went to heaven because she paid the tithe. You want a spot in heaven for your dog and your mommy too don't ya boy? Just do what we say." A follower of Isil would say "The Sheikh just told me that I will get 140 virgins in heaven if I become a martyr. He knows a lot about virgins, he buys 20 of them every week." It's old school mind control because microchips didn't exist back when evil men were finding bigger and better ways of rising to power. Every religion contains the mechanisms to turn their peaceful souls into cold-blooded murderers. Maybe the christians of europe and north america are just fat and happy by comparison to the average muslim right now (fat and happy is an actual thing, just think about how happy hungry humans/animals are), but they are not as involved in murdering for their religion at this point in time.

The LRA isn't a Christian entity killing muslims and other non-christians, and it was formed in the wake of the carnage left behind by Idi Amin in Uganda. Kony didn't invent that type of behavior, he was born into it. From the Wikipedia Lord's Resistance Army page: The LRA are a bunch of wild dogs who noone understands completely, their stated goals are ridiculous and don't follow an agenda that's clearly in favour of anyone or any cause aside from murder and rape. To say that he's a christian killing muslims is a fabrication according to what Wikipedia says about him.

I think Jesus was the good cop in the bible. Most of the bad cop sentiment comes from God afaik, but Im no bible scholar,