WestCanMan

There are about 100,000 police working every minute of every day in north america (that's a straight up guess), the number of "incidents" is extremely rare when you consider the element of society that they spend the majority of their time dealing with. Just remember when you see CNN or Fox news reporting on an incident that they have a choice to make: 1) do they report the facts in a the most accurate manner possible 2) do they report the facts in the most profitable manner possible? The difference is worth about $100M to them. The first time I saw the Ferguson shooting on tv I was given the impression that a cop just started randomly shooting at some African Americans from his cruiser and killed an innocent "gentle giant" teenager. Then the violent robbery was shown on tv, and angry citizens dismissed it as "not relevant". If that incident was reported in a more responsible manner from the beginning it would have had an entirely different outcome and the american MSM would be out million$. You didn't save a future victim from police brutality, you just did your part to keep a real victim from getting justice and to help a criminal remain at large. GJ eyeball

I was wrong for the first time in my life again.

Oh, lol. my bad

I hate throwing down the small sample size argument but really, 8 crimes? lmao, that's as bad as "I know a guy...".

Oh I bet you don't, and yes I was absolutely bang-on re: the comment about US Presidents. Obama did it propmtly within his first week as prez. They all do. You'll see another one do it in January if you pay attention. 90% of the people I talk to about the "blessed Israelies" have no idea that the country is only 66 years old or that the Likud party was founded as a terrorist organization. If you can't imagine Hamas or Hezbollah ever being considered legitimate political parties then you shouldn't just cater to the likud-led Israelis or their modus operandi either. They have national holidays honouring actual war criminals. The only way that anyone can ever justify even a portion of what the Israelis have done over there is "as retaliation", but for what? The holocaust? That was Hitler and Germany, not the Palestinians (ironically the current israeli prez Ben N just accused a Palestinian of giving Hitler the idea to kill all the jews about a week ago). Jews were allowed to purchase land and live in Palestine before WWII and the Palestinians were far better hosts than the Israelis are. The palestinians should actually be the ones to cry "retaliation" but they are just muslims in the eyes of most canadians, and that means somewhat less than human. It's pummelled into your conscious and sub-conscious mind by our hyper-biased media. FWIW if the fate of the Jews is a big deal to you then you could just as easily be pissed off at Canada and the US for turning their noses up at the refugees from the end of WWII. I don't condone the actions of terrorists or mainstream Israelis, but I also don't pretend to have the answers. I grew up fat and happy like all canadians do and the complications of the life they all face is far beyond anything that I ever want to experience. But I have approximately the same stance re: Israel as Amnesty Int'l does. Call their credibility into question if you like. I don't really give a rip.

It's ridiculous for someone to even argue that a person should get to keep their canadian citizenship no matter what they do. A huge part of the "contract" between a citizenship applicant and the Canadian Gov't/people is the written or implied understanding "I'm not here to massacre Canadians". I doubt that anyone would argue that. A question for the people who are in favour of keeping these guys around: Should we have a time limit for them to be here before they can commit acts of terrorism or murder without losing their citizenshiip? IE can they kill everyone present at their swearing-in ceremony the second they dot their last i and cross their last t, or do they have to wait a couple weeks to commit attrocities? I really need a better of understanding of just exactly what people want here.

This comment in no way undermines all the content contained in the information and links provided TB. You might as well try to soak up the water from a burst fire hydrant with two squares of toilet paper. What do you make of this TB? Remember that noone is allowed to run for election in the federal Liberal party unless they are pro-choice (re: abortion). Why is pro-terrorism ok?

kind of ironic that the media would complain about ugly politics after three years of focusing on $90k-gate. If on of Trudeau's underlings is up to anything shady that costs Canadians less than $200k I hope we don't find out about it. I'd honestly rather see parliament focus on the future, or even the present.

The argument that women are being forced to stay in a relationship just to stay here is a joke when you consider that the theory behind them marrying a Canadian is because they want to be with that person, rather than just to get across the border. If their new spouse is beating them then they should be happier to go back to their native country than stay in a place where they have lived for less than 10% of their lives.

Everything is "political" to some degree despite whether the person saying it really believes it or not. And fwiw, his job is to do what the public wants him to do, so politicking isn't always a bad thing. It's only bad when you're promising things that you know you can't or won't deliver to get votes, or when you ban an opinion from your whole party.I think what you mean to say is "Do we think Harper truly cares about the niqab issue, and would he do anything about it or is he just blowing sunshine?" Of course he would. He's in lock step with the stalinesque Israelis. It's his worst quality but I doubt he has a choice. The first thing that every president-elect does is swear his undying support of Israel.

Theres a big difference between immigrants with money pumping up the economy and immigrants going straight to the welfare system and draining it. I find it really ironic that you just called someone fundamentally ignorant after all the ludicrous things you just said.

Theres nothing wrong with being anti-immigrant when the migrants are predominantly from an area with one of the major problem religions of the world, ie Muslim or Jewish. It's not just a theory that all those guys put their imaginary friends well ahead of living breathing human beings and that's going back long before 1949. Let them all sort their nasty business over there before they apply to get in here. I'm happy to take in any other religion, or to wait another 2,000 years or so.

Just like Mulcair, Trudeau sees himself as positive, and an optimist. I swear that Mulcair would have used nukes on someone if he had them and Trudeau is more of a geeky whiner. It will be interesting to see a different side of Trudeau.

Trudeau looks high. Someone tell him weed isn't legal yet.

Mulcair says that people see the ndp party as the party of hope. Lmao, all I ever saw him do was whine for the last 3 years.

John Aldag, Liberal, is leading in my riding.

Thanks toadbrother;)

Voted Conservative, I dunno how my guy did yet. Dean Drysdale. Watching Jays.

There were websites dedicated to GW bush's best foot in mouth moments, I think a thread dedicated to PM Trudeau's gaffes is in order. This is with a clean slate as pm - his banning of anti-abortionists, his admiration of the Chinese govts ability to do whatever they want, promising to sidetrack our democracy if the conservatives got a minority and him stuttering for ten seconds after he was asked a question are all behind. New material only from here on out. Luckily for the U.S. Bush could only be re-elected once. The village idiot can be the mayor here indefinitely. We need to make sure that doesn't happen. There's no cure for stupid, Trudeau will have this thing up to two pages by Christmas but I'm not looking fwd to it.

People are trained to be scared of terrorist attacks, it's the "don't look at all the killing the Israelis are doing, look at how bad crazy Muslims are" card that's played over and over by the media. The worst one was when the "6 Arab terrorists tried to board a plane in England" that caused us to limit the amount of fluids we could carry on a plane. CNN was bombarding the tv with terrorism in bold headlines, on the ticker, and verbally 24/7. Meanwhile Israeli tanks, helicopters, apc's, etc were unleashing another barrage against civilians with the eyes of America distracted. I have my doubts if that the terrorist was real, there was just way too much focus on it compared the actual war that was going on.The terrorist threat is real enough now tho, thanks to Israel and the U.S. If you want to spend money you don't need to throw it in every direction chasing problems which are basically just symptoms of one disease. we live in an alcohol-charged culture. You can't watch a movie, a sporting event, or do basically anything where alcohol isn't revered, endorsed, expected, etc. it brings out the worst in every situation and its looked at as the cure. Someone died, drink! Someone got promoted, drink! Having a bad day, you need a drink. Good day, celebrate with a drink. Hard days work you earned a drink. Nice meal, nice wine. Watch any movie and see how many times and how many different ways they promote booze.Don't expect anything to get better here until people have a better understanding of what problem drinking is. But that's not the answer anyone is looking for. We want a pill, or social programs targeting the fallout. Money spent on csis is well enough spent, but domestically we could improve our situation for free with a more mature approach to drinking.

Are you saying that overspending on an election campaign is as bad as the things that Cretien did reefermadness? You're comparing apples and oranges. Trudeau is crying that the Harper govt is too fixated on the oil sector and in the background his top aides are paving the way for lobbyists from that sector.

You answered those questions with a combination of lies and accusations. Are you an elected MP?

citation needed

You are trying to shift blame from the person who committed the act to the person who informed against him. You would have been better off saying nothing. It's viewed as a stalling tactic. The liberal party itself has moved past the point of denying any wrongdoing, they are trying to pass it off as an isolated incident. Its's their style? That's ripe. The liberals just spent three years acting as if $90,000 in bogus travel expenses was the most important thing happening on the face of the earth.

Can you comment on whether or not you are aware of the level of corruption in that liberal government? Trudeau should be, but he has Chrétien on the podium with him.